Vols Seeding

#26
#26
We housed a bubble team today with tem playing lights out for at least one half. This win might have helped some.
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#27
#27
I think we are already a definate 4 and with a win over Kensucky tommorow we are a definate 3. If we win the SEC tourny I wouldnt be surprised if they gave us a 2 but not gonna say a 2 is definate. We shall see...
 
#28
#28
We have to be close to a 3 right now as we stand....we are a 4 right now, Wisconsin lost today and they are a projected 3 before their loss...I'd imagine they'll get bumped down a line and a 4 will get bumped up...could be us.....The UK game tomorrow is a good situation for us, if we win it improves our seeding if we lose we stay the same
 
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#29
#29
not if we lose tomorrow and they continue to win.

Bracketology 101

it's consistently the best projection site. they have maryland, georgetown, and baylor all above us right now. if those teams continue to win (and they have a good chance) then we will need to beat kentucky again to make sure we stay above them

Other than Wisconsin, Temple, and maybe Maryland, I can't really argue with any of the 1-4 seeds.
 
#30
#30
I have to believe we are a 3 seed right now. Especially with Nova going down. There are teams ahead of us in the rankings, ie New Mexico, Butler, and BYU that I cannot see being seeded higher than us.
 
#33
#33
To piggy back on you Lizzard, with New Mexico, Villanova, Wisconsin, Michigan State all losing, we are most definitely a 3 seed.
 
#35
#35
To piggy back on you Lizzard, with New Mexico, Villanova, Wisconsin, Michigan State all losing, we are most definitely a 3 seed.
Maryland went down tonight as well (probably behind us anyway, but just pointing it out).
 
#36
#36
If we lose to UK, we are a 4. If we beat UK and go on to win the tournament, it is possible that we could climb to a high 3...and if the committee is smoking some really good stuff, maybe a low 2 considering how the conference tourneys are playing out.
 
#37
#37
1 seeds are going to be Kansas, Kentucky, Duke, and Syracuse.

2 seeds are going to be Purdue, West Virginia, Ohio State, Kansas State.

Theres no way we pass any of those teams considering all of them but Syracuse are in either there conference semifinals or finals.

Means we are a 3 seed and IF we win the next two the top 3 seed.
 
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#38
#38
1 seeds are going to be Kansas, Kentucky, Duke, and Syracuse.

2 seeds are going to be Purdue, West Virginia, Ohio State, Kansas State.

Theres no way we pass any of those teams considering all of them but Syracuse are in either there confrence semifinals or finals.

Means we are a 3 seed and IF we win the next two the top 3 seed.

I agree with you for the most part. I think if Purdue wins the Big 10, however, they will pass the 'Cuse for the last 1 seed (assuming Duke beats Tech). The committee puts a lot of weight in how teams play in the conference tourney and how teams play at the end of the regular season. Remember, Purdue beat West Virginia in January. In addition, Syracuse has lost their last 2 games....

1: Kansas, Kentucky, Duke, Purdue
2: Syracuse, West Virginia, Kansas State, Ohio St
3: Tennessee, Butler, New Mexico, Wisconsin
4: Michigan State, Vanderbilt, Temple, Georgetown
5: BYU, Maryland, Pitt, UTEP
6: Baylor, Zags, TxA&M, Nova


-New Mexico and BYU losing helps us but New Mexico still has a great record and beat some decent non-conference foes (TxA&M, Cal). I think we have to beat UK to surpass New Mexico still. We should surpass BYU regardless, as they've lost twice to UNM and UNLV, not to mention, their best non-conference victories are pretty weak (Arizona St, Arizona, Nebraska).

-Nova will take a Texas-sized fall since they were 2-6 their last 8 games.

-Michigan St and Wisconsin losing today to Big 10 bubble teams should put both behind us; State's only good non-conference win was against the Zags, which isn't that impressive, imo. Wisconsin was more of a legit threat, having beaten Duke, Maryland, Marquette and Zona in a tough non-conference schedule. But I think we'll still be ahead of them even if we lose to UK.

-The Zags lost to St. Mary's in the finals.


Scenario play:
Unless there's a blow-out in the semis/finals for the Big 12 (Kansas vs Kansas St), Big 10, Big East (WVU vs Gtown) or SEC I don't see my 1s and 2s changing...except:
if UT beats UK and wins the SEC, I could see us squeezing past Ohio St unless they win the Big 10. That final 2 seed is were I begin to see wiggle room.

Also, for Purdue and Duke to get 1 seeds, they have to win their tourneys. If not, welcome back Syracuse. WVU and KSU have an outside shot if they get a lot of help and look good in the finals but I suspect they'll be 2s unless both Purdue and Ohio St lose in the semis (unlikely).

In the end, I see us being a 3 seed unless we play horrible against Kentucky. I wouldn't be surprised if we beat them, however. I am less optomistic facing Vandy in the finals than beating Kentucky. Pearl really brings it when facing Cal. Unfortunately, with Kentucky's fan support at the tourney, it may make the difference.

That's why they play the game...I love March!
 
#39
#39
a bunch of losses yesterday that will help us. (Michigan State, Maryland, New Mexico, Wisconsin, Baylor). The only thing is with that Kansas State win, they won't fall out of a 2 seed. and West Virginia is all but guaranteed a 2 seed too. So if we were to win the SEC Tournament, the window for a 2 seed has shut a little bit.

The teams to root for today: Illinois, Minnesota, Rhode Island, West Virginia
 
#40
#40
We really need that 3 seed! Hopefully a competitive game would be enough for us to get that 3 seed.
 
#41
#41
Get to the Championship game I feel would lock UT in as a 3. As a side note, Syracuse will remain a #1 seed in my opinion.
 
#42
#42
a bunch of losses yesterday that will help us. (Michigan State, Maryland, New Mexico, Wisconsin, Baylor). The only thing is with that Kansas State win, they won't fall out of a 2 seed. and West Virginia is all but guaranteed a 2 seed too. So if we were to win the SEC Tournament, the window for a 2 seed has shut a little bit.

The teams to root for today: Illinois, Minnesota, Rhode Island, West Virginia

I'm not sure it matters what happens to Purdue, but we "could" pass the Buckeyes with a Illinois upset.
 
#45
#45
I can't comprehend how people have New Mexico as a 3 seed!?!? That is the biggest load of crap. Oh wow, they beat Texas A&M, Cal, and BYU! woooo, watch out! I guess they think the selection committee will overlook their loss to ORAL ROBERTS?
 
#46
#46
With the win over Ole Miss our RPI has improved to number 11 with four of our best wins in last eight games. If we beat Ky today we will be a lock for no worse than a three as we would have three wins over number one seeds while no one else has more than one and our RPI and strength at end of season would improve as well. If we beat Ky and Vandy to win tourney we have a decent shot at a two seed. Go Vols beat Kats again!
 
#47
#47
With the win over Ole Miss our RPI has improved to number 11 with four of our best wins in last eight games. If we beat Ky today we will be a lock for no worse than a three as we would have three wins over number one seeds while no one else has more than one and our RPI and strength at end of season would improve as well. If we beat Ky and Vandy to win tourney we have a decent shot at a two seed. Go Vols beat Kats again!

i hope you're right.
 
#48
#48
With the win over Ole Miss our RPI has improved to number 11 with four of our best wins in last eight games. If we beat Ky today we will be a lock for no worse than a three as we would have three wins over number one seeds while no one else has more than one and our RPI and strength at end of season would improve as well. If we beat Ky and Vandy to win tourney we have a decent shot at a two seed. Go Vols beat Kats again!

Who would we pass.

We are not going to pass Kansas Kentucky, Duke, or Syracuse obviously.

The 2 seeds will probably be Purdue, West Virginia, Ohio St., and Kansas St.

West Virginia is playing Georgetown in the finals so even if they lose they wont drop that far in the rankings.

Purdue will probably play Ohio St. who is getting number 1 seed talk so if Purdue loses they will not be hurt by the loss too much. If Ohio st. loses the way the committee looks at it that would be one of their few losses since they practically wipe away all their loses without turner.

Kansas st. is playing Kansas so they are in the same situation as Purdue they only have to play to not be destroyed.

Honestly the only way it I see that it could be possible is if Minn. spanks Purdue and it is very obvious that Purdue has suffered from not having Hummel so the committee just sneaks us in as a 2.

The thing is that if they follow the snake pattern that they are suppose to follow for placement matters then that last number 2 seed is suppose to be in the same bracket as Kansas and I would much rather have a Syracuse or Duke then Kansas and theres no way they put us in the same bracket as Kentucky.
 

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