Vote at home act 2021

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Thunder Good-Oil said:
How they going to police people voting for others that don’t care about voting? How many spouses will get 2 votes because their significant other doesn’t care about politics and let’s them have their vote? Another scheme by the Dems to grab power.
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Why would this only give dems the power? Isn't everyone eligible?

I don't agree with it but don't see how it only benefits one side. Demonizing mail in votes was a bad strategy in Nov
 
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I'm ok with online voting if done with some control. Much preferred to pallets of mail in votes showing up in Atlanta over the next two nights. We would have all results by 8pm.
 
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utvolpj said:
Why would this only give dems the power? Isn't everyone eligible?

I don't agree with it but don't see how it only benefits one side. Demonizing mail in votes was a bad strategy in Nov
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Right now the demo of the Dems is far more online savvy. The Repubs could benefit in the long run by educating seniors but many of them are already doing the mail-in option.

Who will be casting votes for grand pappy living with dementia that isn’t able to comprehend voting? It’s too easy to give those votes to others. At least with mail-in votes there is a paper trail that can discourage fraud. Maybe do it with facial recognition technology, but I’m not a fan of the gov expanding that intrusion.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
Right now the demo of the Dems is far more online savvy. The Repubs could benefit in the long run by educating seniors but many of them are already doing the mail-in option.
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Oh so it's an intelligence thing? Do we really want more uneducated voters? Tech issues are being addressed by the govt every day
Thunder Good-Oil said:
Who will be casting votes for grand pappy living with dementia that isn’t able to comprehend voting? It’s too easy to give those votes to others. At least with mail-in votes there is a paper trail that can discourage fraud. Maybe do it with facial recognition technology, but I’m not a fan of the gov expanding that intrusion.
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Both sides can do it. I was simply curious why you believe it would only be abused by one side. Seems very partisan and short-sighted
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
How they going to police people voting for others that don’t care about voting? How many spouses will get 2 votes because their significant other doesn’t care about politics and let’s them have their vote? Another scheme by the Dems to grab power.
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How do you figure this only benefits the dems?

Making it easier to vote securely should benefit ALL American's. You need to come to terms with the fact that voter suppression as a means to victory isn't going to be on the menu much longer; don't fight digital voting - advocate for it to be done securely.
 
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Septic said:
How do you figure this only benefits the dems?

Making it easier to vote securely should benefit ALL American's. You need to come to terms with the fact that voter suppression as a means to victory isn't going to be on the menu much longer; don't fight digital voting - advocate for it to be done securely.
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Because right wingers struggle to use the intrawebs. He clearly explained that
 
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hog88 said:
Good point (you finally made one), none should have ever been a candidate so we need even more restrictions on voting.
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How about no voting and we have a monarchy where you get to be king and you can pick and choose when rule of law matters?
 
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utvolpj said:
Oh so it's an intelligence thing? Do we really want more uneducated voters? Tech issues are being addressed by the govt every day

Both sides can do it. I was simply curious why you believe it would only be abused by one side. Seems very partisan and short-sighted
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No it’s not intelligence. It’s like older demos can drive a manual transmission and use a rotary phone. People in their 70s, 80s, and 90s aren’t as tech savvy as those in their 20s and 30s. Those in their 20s and 30s have been indoctrinated to vote for the Ds.
 
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n_huffhines said:
How about no voting and we have a monarchy where you get to be king and you can pick and choose when rule of law matters?
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No. That's crazy.

Best solution would be to adopt the Starship Troopers model of citizenship or something similar. Only stakeholders get a vote.
 
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hog88 said:
No. That's crazy.

Best solution would be to adopt the Starship Troopers model of citizenship or something similar. Only stakeholders get a vote.
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I love Heinlein, but it seems like a recipe for civil unrest. Also, I'm pretty sure the stakeholders would still nominate and elect trash.
 
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utvolpj said:
Oh so it's an intelligence thing? Do we really want more uneducated voters? Tech issues are being addressed by the govt every day

Both sides can do it. I was simply curious why you believe it would only be abused by one side. Seems very partisan and short-sighted
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I didn’t say the abuse would only benefit one side. That is a separate reason to not go there soon.
 
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hog88 said:
How about a ratio of votes to how much taxes in taxes you pay?
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I think you run into the same problem. Guys like Ted Cruz are still going to be leading the way under this system. Maybe he's not as bad as what the general public is putting out there, but we're still going to have big, bloated, busybody government heading down a **** path just a little bit slower. We had what the tax-paying contingency wanted in 2017 and 2018 with both houses of congress and the WH and it wasn't good and taxes didn't really get lowered on the net because of tariffs and the "hidden tax" consequences of monetary policy.
 
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Fair and trusted elections are one of the few primary pillars of our system of government.

Mass mail in voting and schemes such as these introduce a lot of room for fraud and undermine confidence in our election systems.

Voting should be primarily in person with IDs. And mail in / absentee voting should only be done when someone specifically requests a mail in ballot. Their vote should only be counted if all the requirements for that mail in ballot are met.
 
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DC_Vol said:
Fair and trusted elections are one of the few primary pillars of our system of government.

Mass mail in voting and schemes such as these introduce a lot of room for fraud and undermine confidence in our election systems.

Voting should be primarily in person with IDs. And mail in / absentee voting should only be done when someone specifically requests a mail in ballot. Their vote should only be counted if all the requirements for that mail in ballot are met.
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What makes us think in-person voting is secure? We still have blind spots in the process. We still have tons of potential for fraud. Seems like there is room for improvement and it could come from technology that can verify and validate at-home voting.
 
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