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#26
#26
Originally posted by allvol@Oct 12, 2004 12:02 PM
Because the in-state talent is thin in Tennessee, Fulmer has to recruit nationwide. He's one of the best in the country.
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Yeah, he came all the way the hell out here... Oregon doesn't have a whole lot of talent.
 
#27
#27
Anyone who thinks Fulmer is bad for UT Football must be a complete idiot. I remember the Johnny Majors years; Johnny had an excuse for everything, and blamed everyone around him. Not Fulmer he has always been accountable during a loss and humble when he wins.

I for one don't want to lose Fulmer as our coach. He may get out coached on occasions but He has the program going in the right direction. He recruits as good as anyone, and our teams are always at least competitive while wining greater than 80% of the time.

Just my 2 cents.

Gunner


:gun:
 
#28
#28
Its easy to Monday morning QB. Fact of the matter is we have one of winningest active coaches in the nation, former NC, head of the program under one of the most successful periods in Tennessee Volunteer football history. Fulmer is a tireless worker, loves Tennessee to the core, and is a good person to boot.

Even the best programs lose games every once in a while, but we lose less than most.

I'm old enough to remember our program under Majors. We used to lose to Vandy and Kentucky for goodness sake!!!

 
#29
#29
I can barely remember the Majors era, but I can remember everyone talking about how non-conservative Fulmer was in his coming out party with UGA and the rest while majors was out. What's changed? Why does Fulmer seem more conservative now? Is a good analogy that he was driving someone else's Corvette for a few weeks and when he found out it was his he decided to keep it in first gear? You always hear Heath talking about how huge UT's playbook is and how long it would take a great QB to learn it, but man I wish we could see some strawberry instead of all that vanilla every now and then. It should be like someone looking up a "word of the day" in Websters and trying to use it 20 times that day...UT should pick a new play each week and execute it a few times--and I'm not talking about trying to run on the left side instead of the right side. We have a system here where sending the wideouts streaking down the sidelines is considered a "gimick" play :pepper: It's so bad that the only offensive options available on XBox if you pick UT are the toss sweep and screen pass... But, you gotta love it!
 
#30
#30
Originally posted by KnoxKDX@Oct 12, 2004 11:25 PM
I can barely remember the Majors era, but I can remember everyone talking about how non-conservative Fulmer was in his coming out party with UGA and the rest while majors was out. What's changed? Why does Fulmer seem more conservative now? Is a good analogy that he was driving someone else's Corvette for a few weeks and when he found out it was his he decided to keep it in first gear? You always hear Heath talking about how huge UT's playbook is and how long it would take a great QB to learn it, but man I wish we could see some strawberry instead of all that vanilla every now and then. It should be like someone looking up a "word of the day" in Websters and trying to use it 20 times that day...UT should pick a new play each week and execute it a few times--and I'm not talking about trying to run on the left side instead of the right side. We have a system here where sending the wideouts streaking down the sidelines is considered a "gimick" play :pepper: It's so bad that the only offensive options available on XBox if you pick UT are the toss sweep and screen pass... But, you gotta love it!
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I don't think our offense is a vanilla as it appears. I think we could throw in a few more things from time to time but I think Fulmer does that (that long pass to Tiinsley on the 3rd play of the game was a new play). I think he is more conservative now because that's how he won the NC. And you also have to look at his record... chances are if we don't make too many mistakes and keep it close then we win.
 
#32
#32
hell ima do the tangent thing UT BAMA

WILL BE A WAR!!!!!! UT WINS BUT it willk be nasty :machinegun:
 
#33
#33
I'll never bash Majors, he is one of Tennessee's favorite sons after all, and he coached us to some of the great wins in our history, ala Sugar Bowl win over Miami in '85, Florida in '90, win at Notre Dame in '91 (when they were still good!) etc.

BUT

Fulmer has definitely brought the program to a new level. I honestly never thought we would win a NC under Majors. Started to think it might be possible in '95, and voila, it happened in '98.

In his book "Legacy of Winning" Fulmer outlines how he develops a game plan. If we have the edge in talent, we play on the conservative side, if the perception is that we are outgunned, then we open it up... Seems to have worked for us during the past 3 road games where we were big underdogs (Florida '01, Miami '03, Georgia '04).
 
#34
#34
Majors was a good coach but he makes CPF look like that guy Kentucky had with the pretty hair that used every trick play in the book (man I can't remember his name ) ,anyway Majors would play for the tie rather than a win any day, get a 7 point lead in the first quarter and start trying to kill the clock, myself I prefer Fulmer (even if he hadn't won the championship) he's got class and he's a heck of a recruiter. someone said he had a good team handed to him when he took over, well duh he's the one who did most of the recruiting when Major's was in charge.
 
#35
#35
Originally posted by volmanjr@Oct 13, 2004 8:18 PM
Majors was a good coach but he makes CPF look like that guy Kentucky had with the pretty hair that used every trick play in the book (man I can't remember his name ) ,anyway Majors would play for the tie rather than a win any day, get a 7 point lead in the first quarter and start trying to kill the clock, myself I prefer Fulmer (even if he hadn't won the championship) he's got class and he's a heck of a recruiter. someone said he had a good team handed to him when he took over, well duh he's the one who did most of the recruiting when Major's was in charge.
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Hal Mumme
 
#36
#36
Let me start by saying I'm not a big Fulmer fan, he has definate weaknesses including but not limited to being a little too conservative most times, not being very good at in game adjustments when the plan fizzles, players have a definate weak fundamental base, but to say he's been outcoached by Richt is nonsense in '00, '01, '02 it was more of UT's failure than Richt's genius or coaching ability . In '00 Fulmer's failure to kick FG's 4 times inside UGA's 25 yard line cost UT dearly, in '01 Fulmer's Famous squibb kick and Chavis's super prevent defense, in '02 well need I say more about that injury plagued year and UT still had a chance to win in the end and failed to capitalize. In '03 the fumble made a difference in that game and UT quit, so as for Richt being so great - NOT!

Battle beat Bear and Bama in 1970 24-0.
 
#38
#38
Where should I start?

As a Vol fan, disliking Mr. Fulmer :angry: seems sac religious to me. Mr. Fulmer has done nothing but win and has been a class act through out his time here. He Bleeds orange, recruits well, acts respectfully and wins consistently, what else do you want?

The titans Mike Heimerdinger :bad: smells like a gator to me, let's see, there it is!
"He served as a graduate assistant coach at the University of Florida in 1980. He spent 1981 at Air Force and at North Texas State in 1982 before returning to Florida in 1983. He spent five years at Florida before moving onto Cal-State Fullerton. " Need I say more?

Regarding the vanilla play calling or conservative play, I believe there is a reason behind it all. It seems we all agree that Clausen handcuffed the offense, right? Well, lets say we had a great QB like...Peyton Manning, would or did play calling seem conservative? Peyton, Ainge and other playmakers tend to make coach's open it up because they have the ability to open it up. You don't want players trying for the big play when they are not capable or when the big play is not there. When you have playmakers the plays get made and the offense opens up.

I compare Coach Fulmer to another coach I follow closely, Bobby Cox, they both win but get no credit. What makes me more made is that people away from the organization seems to appreciate them more. This is so confusing to me and I will never understand or accept this.

Regarding the last field goal attempt late in the UGA game. I agree that we should have used our excellent punter and pen them deep. I guess I would have liked the "conservative" call with a two score lead late in the game. This proves no one is ever happy!

GO VOLS AND THE MAJORITY LOVE YOU COACH FULMER!
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Fulmer as a Captain in Auburn game (Right)

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Fulmer in the trenches (second from left)





 
#42
#42
I luv's me some CPF - as far as I'm concerned, he can keep coaching until he needs a walker to get through the 'T'. Not only is he a great recruiter, I think he's a better 'X's and O's' coach than he gets credit for. Big screwups on the field = big losses on the scoreboard - we won our NC playing it close to the vest, UT has a 'power' tradition, so it's only natural to minimize unnecessary risk caused by asking our players to be too fancy.

Gonna be a long day tomorrow, waiting on the 9 p.m. kickoff....




Thanks for the retro pics, OrangeCrush18!
 
#43
#43
Fulmer took over mainly because of Majors' problems off the field (JD) not so much his coaching, Fulmer is a top notch coach and I for one hope he stays at least 10 more years! :ph34r:
 
#44
#44
Fulmer has the Best Win % of active coaches in the SEC and is in the top 5 nationally. How can you possibly argue with those numbers?
 

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