War in Ukraine

[evillawyer]

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If I ever visit Ukraine, I'm never getting into a game of darts with a local with money on the line.

 

[volgr]

Would our resident Putinistas care to comment?

It was roughly a month ago that Ukraine forces withdrew from Lyscychansk. Now RU forces are closing in on Sivers'k and Bakhmut. I wouldn't say the map is all that accurate, but Russian advance have been slower the last month.

 

[NorthDallas40]

It was roughly a month ago that Ukraine forces withdrew from Lyscychansk. Now RU forces are closing in on Sivers'k and Bakhmut. I wouldn't say the map is all that accurate, but Russian advance have been slower the last month.

We’re all shocked that’s your take Larry.

 

[LouderVol]

Because the U.S. and any NATO country supplying weapons is an act of aggression as well. You do not have to send troops to be directly involved in a conflict.

Ah so you do admit that Russia acted aggressively first by arming the rebels.

 

[DonjoVol]

Ah so you do admit that Russia acted aggressively first by arming the rebels.

The U.S. and Europe did by supporting a coup.

 

[LouderVol]

I gave you proof. You have yet to refute it.

Where did you provide proof?

 

[tvolsfan]

The U.S. and Europe did by supporting a coup.

 

[LouderVol]

The U.S. and Europe did by supporting a coup.

So now not only supplying weapons is an act of aggression, but diplomacy is too. Remind where did the ousted president end up, and how did he get there?

I have a hint for you, the US wasnt the one directly losing assets in that coup.

 

[DonjoVol]

So now not only supplying weapons is an act of aggression, but diplomacy is too. Remind where did the ousted president end up, and how did he get there?

I have a hint for you, the US wasnt the one directly losing assets in that coup.

That wasn't diplomacy. They were urging and pushing for regime change.

 

[Hunerwadel]

Russia has decimated Ukraine's equipment from the start. What makes you think they can't easily find and destroy these HIMARS?

Common sense should tell you that isn't true. How are they still fighting this three day war with no equipment?

 

[volgr]

Mariupol already being rebuilt, probably with those record energy profits.

 

[volgr]

Common sense should tell you that isn't true. How are they still fighting this three day war with no equipment?

Yes, I guess Ukraine begging for any equipment they can get their hands on was just an elaborate hoax.

 

[DonjoVol]

Common sense should tell you that isn't true. How are they still fighting this three day war with no equipment?

Ukraine already had the largest military in Europe prior to this conflict. They have always had plenty of equipment and weapons.

 

[BreatheUT]

Have we had any recent comments from Red Skull how Russia's War is killing the US economy?

 

[volgr]

Still waiting for that vaunted Ukrainian counteroffensive on Kherson to begin....

 

[Hunerwadel]

They destroy them as they find them, yes, but it takes time.

Consistency is not your strength is it? You just said a few posts back Russia was destroying their equipment at will.

 

[MontyPython]

 

[MontyPython]

Mariupol already being rebuilt, probably with those record energy profits.

Presuming you don't own a car... you must have missed the fact that oil is now cheaper than it was prior to the war.

BACK TO YOUR OXCART, COMRADE!

 

[Hunerwadel]

Ukraine already had the largest military in Europe prior to this conflict. They have always had plenty of equipment and weapons.

If you're not a major weapons manufacturer you have to get it somewhere. I suspect Ukraine has worn out more equipment than Russia has destroyed. Winning or losing it takes a constant supply.

 

[LouderVol]

That wasn't diplomacy. They were urging and pushing for regime change.

Same as Russia was. Turns out buying the leaders isnt enough, they need the support of the people, which Russia didnt have.

 

[evillawyer]

Nicely scored with Beethoven's Fur Elise

 

[USF grad in TN]

Institute for the Study of War

Russian military leadership is likely increasingly losing confidence in the security of Crimea following recent Ukrainian strikes on Russian military objects in Crimea. Russian sources reported on August 17 that Vice Admiral Viktor Sokolov had replaced Admiral Igor Osipov as the commander of the Crimean-based Black Sea Fleet (BSF).[1] The Russian information space, however, was evidently eager to maintain a high level of secrecy regarding Sokolov’s appointment due to the claimed threat of “terrorist danger” in Sevastopol.[2] Recent Ukrainian strikes (associated with Ukrainian partisans and Ukrainian Armed Forces) on Russian military assets in Crimea, including the headquarters of the BSF in Sevastopol, have likely placed Russian forces on high alert and led to the restructuring of force composition, logistics, and leadership of the Russian grouping in Crimea in order to mitigate the impact of further strikes. Ukraine’s Main Military Intelligence Directorate, for example, reported that Russian forces are relocating dozens of fixed and rotary wing aircraft stationed in forward airfields in Crimea to areas deeper in the Crimean Peninsula and in mainland Russia.[3]

Russian leadership and the Russian nationalist information space have become increasingly invested in framing recent Ukrainian strikes on Russian military assets in Crimea as acts of terrorism in order to shift the information narrative away from Russian violations of international law and calls on the West to designate Russia a state sponsor of terrorism. Russian sources inaccurately described the strikes on the BSF headquarters, an ammunition depot, and the Saki Airbase as acts of terrorism. The Russian-appointed head of occupied Crimea, Sergey Askenov, claimed on August 17 that the Russian Federal Security Service (FSB) in Crimea had neutralized cells of the Hizb ut-Tahrir organization (an Islamist fundamentalist political organization that has historically been active in Central Asia and in Crimea amongst the Crimean Tatar community and is banned in Russia) in Dzhankoi and Yalta.[4] Aksenov accused the Ukrainian government of coordinating Hizb ut-Tahrir's operations in Crimea without providing any evidence. Russian officials will likely increasingly link Ukrainian partisan attacks against occupied territories with operations conducted by organizations affiliated with Islamist extremism in an attempt to alienate the Ukrainian partisan movement from the international community and undermine Ukraine’s calls to officially designate Russia as a state-sponsor of terrorism. Attacks against legitimate Russian military targets fall well within the purview of legal use of force and are not acts of terrorism, nor is there any evidence to suggest that Islamist extremists conducted these attacks.[5]

 

[USF grad in TN]

Attacks on Russian positions in and around Crimea are likely part of a coherent Ukrainian counter-offensive to regain control of the west bank of the Dnipro River. Russian supply lines from Crimea directly support Russian forces in mainland Ukraine including those in western Kherson Oblast. Ukraine’s targeting of Russian ground lines of communication and logistic and support assets in Crimea is consistent with the Ukrainian counteroffensive effort that has also targeted bridges over the Dnipro River and Russian logistical support elements in occupied Kherson Oblast.[7] The net effects of this campaign will likely be to disrupt the ability of Russian forces to sustain mechanized forces on the west bank of the Dnipro River and to defend them with air and artillery assets on the east bank from Ukrainian counterattacks.

 

[evillawyer]

 

[evillawyer]

LMAO