War in Ukraine

[MontyPython]

 

[WBO]

All NATO's fault of course..

This has all ended up being a total repudiation of the Angela Merkel wing of NATO (wasn't she originally from East Germany) that wanted to civilize Russia through economic interaction and the avoidance of military confrontation. This whole thing brought back memories of the Prague Spring for a new generation of Europeans and they don't like it.

NATO is going to come out of this stronger militarily (both in spending and in the admission of new members) and more suspicious at a very important moment. China had been working hard to economically weaken the US-Europe relationship. That's in deep freeze now, especially after China's commitment to Russia.

It's really funny regarding what this should mean to Ukraine between the EU commitment to rebuild and the potential postwar economic renaissance. Its admission into the EU would give Europe and the US an extremely important door to the Central Asian Republics. If Russia implodes China is going to make a move on the CIR for their resources. We need to be part of that game.

NATO membership may be a ways off, but remember, if Ukraine prevails they will have a battle tested, powerful military flush with western equipment and the knowledge that they owe it all to NATO.

Now we're going to have to refocus on the Pacific Rim.

 

[MontyPython]

 

[Burhead]

 

[Burhead]

 

[tvolsfan]

He’s too busy grabbing his go bag of vodka and potatoes and trying to figure out which side to report to

I have to think he’s a Putinista through and through.

 

[Burhead]

 

[Burhead]

Apparently Putin is deploying the TikTok Brigade against Wagner. Doesn’t trust the loyalty of his own troops?

 

[MG1968]

This must be the work of the CIA. There’s no way Russians would turn on Russia. Putin is beloved by his subjects. Not to mention how cheap eggs are in Moscow.

 

[Burhead]

This must be the work of the CIA. There’s no way Russians would turn on Russia. Putin is beloved by his subjects. Not to mention how cheap eggs are in Moscow.

The CIA co-opted Wagner to launch a Color Revolution in Russia.

 

[tvolsfan]

History has a funny way of repeating itself:

Russia enters WWI and suffers greatly from incompetent leadership and the Revolution occurs.

Russia invaded Ukraine, suffers high losses from stupidity and now this coup.

Could also throw the Russo-Japanese and some other examples in there.

 

[Burhead]

Waiting for Russian state tv to play Swan Lake.

 

[tvolsfan]

Its NATO's fault
Not happening
Wagner group was being led by gay Nazis
Russia has a historical right to the lands occupied by Wagner

I’m 10 pages behind, so I’m genuinely curious if he has added “Russian Civl War” to his “list.”

 

[MontyPython]

Probably BS but if true and/or a significant % of Russian troops fall behind Prigozhin, Putin may be forced to withdraw troops from Ukraine just to quell this coup / rebellion.

 

[Burhead]

So do we think Putin was onboard that Russian presidential aircraft to St. Petersburg or do we really think he’s still in Moscow?

 

[evillawyer]

Just freaking wild how fast this is happening

 

[evillawyer]

How many countries does Russia become?

 

[Burhead]

Everything is fine.

 

[evillawyer]

 

[WBO]

Imagine the movie Alfred Hitchcock could make out of this.

Or maybe Tarantino, if he could figure out a way to include a reference to Tennessee as he almost always does.

 

[evillawyer]

Everything is fine.

Time for a lucky Russian to become sunshine pumper "Moscow Bob"

 

[Burhead]

“There are decades where nothing happens; and there are weeks where decades happen”

 

[tvolsfan]

Strike while the iron is hot

I’d love it so much for Belarus if they were able to disconnect from the Moscow Menace.

 

[evillawyer]

Wagner vs. The Kadyrovites in a fight to the death.

Have at it boys.

 

[tvolsfan]

I fully realize that there could be disastrous global consequences of a Russian Civil War. I also don’t seriously expect Wagner to take over Russia.

That being said, I’m all for any reprieve for Ukrainians. Nobody deserves some good luck more then they do.