War in Ukraine

[Orange.]

France and Germany blocking €20 billion package for Ukraine - Spiegel



Looks like bigger names are figuring out that they're throwing good money after bad. They should send the money, and on Monday Trump should demand that money from the Ukraine.... I don't see why not.

Europe should send their militaries with their big talk and without America paying for everything, and invade Russia. Maybe conscript soldiers. Raid cafes and nightclubs.

“It’s the biggest European war since…” my TV and Internet feed won’t stop telling me every day. How can there be the biggest European war without… Europeans?

So that war propaganda was been exposed, too.

 

[Orange.]

Speaking of which… Seeing Germany with NATO breaking promises and moving for the Russian border, after taking one small country at a time… It must remind the Russians of something. Like trying to make soup out of leather belts and shoes and starving and freezing to death anyway.

At least the French never invaded Russia. Oh wait.

But Poland at least has never invaded Russia. Wait, scratch that.

It’s perplexing to the war profiteers why Russia would not look favorably on encirclement. Every time it’s “this is the last country, we promise.”

 

[LSU-SIU]

Germany’s spoils was its pipeline destroyed by their own so-called U.S.-led “allies.” “Oopsey ! Didn’t know you needed that, friends” — CIA

This new move pretty much exposes what Biden’s oligarch handlers were aiming to abscond with.

This thread is documentation of how evil people can be, imo.

War in Ukraine

Oct 9, 2022

Who needs enemies when the United States is your friend?

They're just now getting angry? (Germany enjoy living in modern day 1980s USSR)

War in Ukraine

Oct 11, 2022

This all starts when Europe finally figures out the United States isn't there friend. Europe is going to suffer for decades to come either way.

Trump is telling the Europeans/Ukrainians the Truth, meaning the U.S, Ukraine and European governments with the neocons/globalist did this, you're right... we're not your friend.... look at what everyone did. They are getting mad at Trump for exposing the Truth.

 

[Orange.]

I want to see this board’s supporters of this profiteer’s and embezzler’s war or, rather, “sending action” roll into Russia on German or French tanks. Shoot ‘em up, boys.

 

[apevol]

Post moar. The board needs more of your wisdom.

smells too much like crusty socks and dank butthole in here

 

[NorthDallas40]

smells too much like crusty socks and dank butthole in here

Fair observation. But don’t act like you wouldn’t fit in that group.

 

[Orange.]

So what’s the latest word on the little comedian’s and his oligarchic promoters’ international real estate and financial holdings?

I haven’t seen much since the Pandora Papers exposed the secret that the propaganda media was ignoring. Of course they had lots of practice covering up for Joey Wonder and Hunter.

But that could get awkward.

 

[apevol]

Fair observation. But don’t act like you wouldn’t fit in that group.

its no fun without ras. the leftovers are just a bunch of slimy, smelly, giddy little schoolboys celebrating ethnic erasure. Some of these boobs don't even know they're tankies.

the fact this board hasn't run em off is a depressing snapshot of an entire nation circling the drain morally

 

[just bob]

smells too much like crusty socks and dank butthole in here

Like sweat crust, or.....?

 

[apevol]

Like sweat crust, or.....?

milky, off-white

 

[NorthDallas40]

its no fun without ras. the leftovers are just a bunch of slimy, smelly, giddy little schoolboys celebrating ethnic erasure. Some of these boobs don't even know they're tankies.

the fact this board hasn't run em off is a depressing snapshot of an entire nation circling the drain morally

I’ll admit I miss sparring with Ras. He and I saw eye to eye on many items except this one. But echo chambers are boring too. An occasional disagreement amongst otherwise agreeable positions is healthy debate.

 

[just bob]

milky, off-white

 

[LSU-SIU]

Rubio UN Statement

Rubio will be presenting a framework i.e. path to end the war in the Ukraine, my understanding is its an agreement on how to move forward on a path in the very near future. I would assume they are moving for the UN to possibly recognize the change of management in Eastern Ukraine, and other.

Looks like Trump is moving forward with or without the Ukraine and Europe, looks like Europe is on the clock see Finnish statement from yesterday i.e. three weeks for surrender.

 

[Orange.]

Classic. Europeans say they won’t provide security within Ukraine — must less fight on for their holy principles — without U.S. money and military. I guess they never believed in all their slogans — strictly for consumption by plebs.

A mere 4 days ago they lied that Europe was ready to take the lead in Ukraine. Snapped a nice photo at a round table for the propaganda media to show the peasants.

 

[LSU-SIU]

Trump-Putin summit preparations underway, Russia says as U.S. offers U.N. resolution on war

Looks like Orange Man - Da Poootin summit within two weeks. Good rundown as to where things stand as far as UN and relations as well. The Ukraine/Europe being left at the station. I know guys.... Ukraine is sovereign and nobody tells them what to do. I know guys... Europe are full of free, sovereign, and independent countries.

Get those knees all in shape, I have a feeling you're going to be using them.

Sovereign: When an Orange tells you to bend the knee, and you do it with grace.

 

[DuckInAPen]

Institute for the Study of War

Russian forces currently occupy around 20 percent of Ukraine, leaving the remaining 80 percent of the country under Ukraine's sovereign control. At the current rate of advance, it would take Russian forces over 83 years to capture the remaining 80

understandingwar.org

 

[BeardedVol]

Lol, and Ras used to cry about BlackRock trying to 'own Ukraine'.

Nothing says 'freedom and democracy' like choosing extortion to be your official foreign policy.

 

[DuckInAPen]

"Recoup the costs"

The sadism of American policy to war-torn Ukraine

snyder.substack.com

 

[LSU-SIU]

Institute for the Study of War

Russian forces currently occupy around 20 percent of Ukraine, leaving the remaining 80 percent of the country under Ukraine's sovereign control. At the current rate of advance, it would take Russian forces over 83 years to capture the remaining 80

understandingwar.org

1. I would say true but define "immediate", the situation can change "immediately" to where there is no reverse to completely losing the Ukraine in a timely manner. Collapses happen suddenly.
2. True, again like one.
3. There is some dispute to that as far as the Russians are concern, meaning elections can be placed on hold but that doesn't necessarily mean the midget retains power. Myself, I have never looked at it, but the Russians have concerns that he is not the leader and able to sign deals. (I have no opinion on it)
4. "millions".... maybe or maybe not... but how do you know the numbers they are giving don't make sense
5. I think that is mostly true but without the U.S. you lose half and there are other systems that can't just be supplied by Europe.
6. I assume true, but there is something the Europe has.... furthermore, until the defaults how was the Ukraine making payments i.e. U.S. funding?
7. We don't know right now, but it is the Ukraine.
8. True, and the Russians sent delegates and the Russians have been mostly willing to talk of an agreement. Most of what the midget has required is pre-conditions to be made before talks which are not going to happen.

Most of this is not really material at this stage and really hasn't been relevant during the whole conflict.

> The Ukraine nor anyone else has a plan as to an end game to the conflict for themselves, matter of fact, I would say there is no plan to even have a plan.
> They appear to be losing U.S. funding and support
> They don't really have any cards to play as Trump said.... I agree... been saying that for years
> Trump could basically end it when he wants more or less.... if he really wants to

Let's pretend the Ukraine is a sovereign independent country for a bit longer and let some more people die while they are pretending - the deal is going to get worse each day, I said that years ago.

 

[LSU-SIU]

"Recoup the costs"

The sadism of American policy to war-torn Ukraine

snyder.substack.com

I didn't read it all but at the end of the day the U.S. and Russia appear to be setting up frameworks to split the spoils of war i.e. the Ukraine lost. The Ukraine is not the friend of the U.S (they never were)., which is why they have been sacrificed to the neocon/globalist gods.

I'm confused as to what people want to hear.

“It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.”
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― Mark Twain

 

[volfanhill]

I didn't read it all but at the end of the day the U.S. and Russia appear to be setting up frameworks to split the spoils of war i.e. the Ukraine lost. The Ukraine is not the friend of the U.S (they never were)., which is why they have been sacrificed to the neocon/globalist gods.

I'm confused as to what people want to hear.

They weren't friends to us when they gave up all their nukes at our behest?

 

[LSU-SIU]

They weren't friends to us when they gave up all their nukes at our behest?

No. It beat being invaded on all sides and they were really weren't "their" nukes. Not really material at this stage, the U.S. was never their friend. (why do you think I said so years ago) If you want to be friends, you can go over, I probably wouldn't recommend it. But no, the people running the show i.e. neocons/globalist were not their friends... it isn't obvious yet? How much more obvious does it have to be, the U.S. to drop a ICBM on them?

 

[volfanhill]

No. It beat being invaded on all sides and they were really weren't "their" nukes. Not really material at this stage, the U.S. was never their friend. (why do you think I said so years ago) If you want to be friends, you can go over, I probably wouldn't recommend it. But no, the people running the show i.e. neocons/globalist were not their friends... it isn't obvious yet? How much more obvious does it have to be, the U.S. to drop a ICBM on them?

You said years ago, on this site since you think I should have seen it, that Ukraine wasn't our friends when they gave up their nukes?

 

[LSU-SIU]

You said years ago, on this site since you think I should have seen it, that Ukraine wasn't our friends when they gave up their nukes?

No. They were going to get invaded by everyone, they did it so they wouldn't get flattened. But regardless if they thought we were their friends, we were not their friends. Mostly immaterial at this stage.

Europe is now on deck and are in panic mode for obvious reasons. (the fun is probably just starting)

War in Ukraine

I don't know what everyone wants to hear.

 

[Orange.]

Lol, and Ras used to cry about BlackRock trying to 'own Ukraine'.

Nothing says 'freedom and democracy' like choosing extortion to be your official foreign policy.

That Blackrock story (of course they are emblematic of broader group of profiteers) was likely the plan. And I agree with your sarcasm: nothing says ‘freedom and democracy’ like that group of war profiteers (beginning at the top with Biden and family) implementing extortion as official foreign policy. Look at how they exploited you.

I do hope this new arrangement can short circuit cronies’ plans. Well worth the effort to make the taxpayers whole, at the least. But it will be difficult to the same profiteers from trying to hack the effort.

Biden bragging on video about extorting Ukrainian officials leverage a billion dollars of taxpayer money (and Obama turning a blind eye) is criminal.

If our nation is fortunate one day we will get details on the actions of the intelligences and allied off-book actors.