War in Ukraine

[NorthDallas40]

If this war is fake all the guys who pulled off the fake moon landing are in awe of this move.

 

[zeppelin128]

Has Snowden popped up anywhere with something to say?

Someone might have already answered you, I'm catching up with the thread. But he tweeted this yesterday:

 

[NEVolFan]

3-4

That convoy is nice juicy target. I hope someone hits it.

B52s will get it done.

 

[Matt2496]

If this war is fake all the guys who pulled off the fake moon landing are in awe of this move.

Good grief. Who the heck is claiming this?

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

I’ll leave this here for those interested in researching how the situation got to where it is today.

Amazon.com: Ukraine on Fire : Oliver Stone, Vladimir Putin, Viktor Yanukovych, Vitaliy Zakharchenko, Robert Parry, Viktor Yushchenko, Igor Lopatonok: Movies & TV

I have a link that I read the first 2 paragraphs of this afternoon and I had to put it down until I get back to my hotel. But let's just say it was a "hot take"... too hot for TV. Written by a a former East European that lives here now.

I also need to sit down and listen to that YouTube video you linked over the weekend.

 

[allvol123]

Good grief. Who the heck is claiming this?

The typical Putin sycophant.

 

[NorthDallas40]

It’s amazing to me how the same media who have lied constantly over the last few years can suddenly put out **** like this and folks swallow it whole. Always question everything.

That’s always a healthy stance in this day and age. But there’s plenty of room between buying every pro Ukraine tweet or war report and this being a major hoax propagated on the world.

I’d expect both party’s propaganda machines are in high gear.

 

[norrislakevol]

Odds there are already US or NATO special forces in Ukraine already?

Contractors are for sure.

 

[DEFENDTHISHOUSE]

I have a link that I read the first 2 paragraphs of this afternoon and I had to put it down until I get back to my hotel. But let's just say it was a "hot take"... too hot for TV. Written by a a former East European that lives here now.

I also need to sit down and listen to that YouTube video you linked over the weekend.

It’s long at two hours but it’s well worth the time spent. Have a notebook and pencil ready. Although you likely know most of what is discussed.

 

[DC_Vol]

Ukrainian Family's Heartbreak as a Father Must Send His Son Away From Harm

Emotional photos capture the painful parting of a father and son in Ukraine amid Russian attacks

Dramatic photos shared with Fox News Digital on Monday show one family's almost unbearable heartache as a Ukrainian father is forced to bid his tearful young son goodbye, telling the child, "Be brave for your mother."

The man was sending his family off to Hungary from a local train station in Ukraine, The Mirror reported.

The man's goal was to get his beloved family — his wife and two children — away from the danger and chaos of war as Russian President Vladimir Putin's forces continue to push their way into Ukraine in an all-out assault on that country.

The father and son are shown hugging and saying a painfully emotional goodbye to each other at the Lviv Train Station.

A painful parting for this father and son in Lviv, Ukraine, is captured here as a Ukrainian father must bid his young son goodbye. The dad had to send his young family off to Hungary — while he stayed behind in Ukraine to help ward off the Russian attacks on his country along with thousands of other Ukrainian men. (Daily Mirror/Andy Stenning/Mega)

The dad, Ruslan Gladkiy, gave his nine-year-old son, Hordeiy, a big bear hug as he put him, his daughter and wife on a train in Lviv, the report noted.

Father and son are forced to part at a train station in Lviv, Ukraine, as Putin's Russian forces threaten the country. Ruslan Gladkiy shared how difficult it was to say goodbye to his nine-year-old son and send him off to Hungary. (Daily Mirror/Andy Stenning/Mega)

Ukrainian family's heartbreak as a father must send his son away from harm

This image is actually a still capture from a 2014 Hallmark Christmas Special.

 

[landscapingvol]

If this war is fake all the guys who pulled off the fake moon landing are in awe of this move.

Is it fake? No. Is it total warfare? No, it’s probably not as bad as some think but worse than other’s think.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Good grief. Who the heck is claiming this?

The link provided claiming to debunk all the hero stories led to a Twitter account when talking about the Ukraine beauty Queen. And that was literally a post claim in that account.

People should assume both propaganda machines are in high gear

 

[Matt2496]

The typical Putin sycophant.

Can you show me an example of someone claiming the war is fake?

 

[NorthDallas40]

Is it fake? No. Is it total warfare? No, it’s probably not as bad as some think but worse than other’s think.

So a definite maybe?

 

[DEFENDTHISHOUSE]

That’s always a healthy stance in this day and age. But there’s plenty of room between buying every pro Ukraine tweet or war report and this being a major hoax propagated on the world.

I’d expect both party’s propaganda machines are in high gear.

I don’t think anyone is claiming the whole war is a hoax. Just some of the reporting. I have no doubt both sides are furiously putting out propaganda.

 

[Godfatha]

The link provided claiming to debunk all the hero stories led to a Twitter account when talking about the Ukraine beauty Queen. And that was literally a post claim in that account.

People should assume both propaganda machines are in high gear

It's always healthy to be skeptical, with those you disagree with and those you agree with.

 

[landscapingvol]

So a definite maybe?

Exactly

 

[WBO]

It's logical; why give fighter planes to a country who airfields have been destroyed by Russia?

The Russians have not established air superiority. That's a fact. They could have a numerical edge but they have not cleaned the skies. Now that means that Ukraine has operating fields still open. Plus Ukraine is generally pretty flat so they can use highways as temporary runways. It's actually what the Tornado was designed to do. That's a very European thing to do. The Saab Viggen pioneered that in the late 60's early 70's.

 

[IluvdoubleD's]

100%

nato, yes, US, hardly. Why would we? These are indépendants. also, everyone knows exactly 6 un f-35's are patrolling the skies.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

What's also crazy is how so many people have capitalized on this conflict to try and get their 10 minutes of fame by fabrication.

You say this like people are clout chasing. I think it is more sinister than that. If it were only about clicks and vanity, that would be one thing. But as we have seen over the last 2 years, the media (traditional mainstream media and social media) are weaponized.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Can you show me an example of someone claiming the war is fake?

.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

The only thing I know for certain is America has no place being involved in another European war. We should use the advice of the founders as a guide.

“Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations...entangling alliances with none.” Thomas Jefferson​

But but but... the world is smaller now than 200 years ago.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

If this war is fake all the guys who pulled off the fake moon landing are in awe of this move.

Who is saying the war is fake?

 

[NorthDallas40]

It's always healthy to be skeptical, with those you disagree with and those you agree with.

I’d agree with you but I should be skeptical of those I agree with.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Who is saying the war is fake?

There’s a tweet I linked above. The guy “debunking” the war hero claims seems to go full potato claiming it’s all a production