Watson Brown on the 'Drops' This Year

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Basilio had Watson Brown on as a guest yesterday. I always enjoy Watson, he had a decent career, not as successful as his brother, but the guy knows football, and especially QBs and WRs. And strikes me as just an all-around likeable guy.

Last year, he was over the top in his praise of Hooker, and warned several times that we would inevitably see a significant dropoff at QB this year. He is a Milton supporter, but notes bluntly that Milton just isn't Hooker, and never will be.

All that side, he had a simple, yet brilliant observation on the missed passes and drops. He noted that Hooker would "miss" receivers last year in what is a complex passing offense. The difference is that Hooker didn't throw every pass at 250mph in a tight spiral, so the receivers had a much better chance to adjust and still catch the ball. And they did regularly. With Milton, the same miss is 9 times out of 10 an uncatchable ball, even for excellent receivers. It is simply travelling too fast and has too much juice on it to be catchable if it is a bit off target.

This makes a lot of sense to me. It doesn't trash our WRs, nor does it take a shot at Milton. In the Clemson game, Joe was relaxed, had fun, and took juice off his throws. At this point, he is stressed and unsure of himself, which is likely making him throw even harder trying like heck to make things happen. I REALLY hope he pulls it together, and we don't end up going to Nico. I'd like 9 wins, a solid bowl outing, and to keep the incoming recruit class intact. That sets up a very nice year next season. The longer Nico can learn and develop without starting pressure, the better. And at this point, I really want Big Joe to succeed. The guy deserves it.

Time will tell.
 
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Somebody needs to put a radar gun on the ball when Milton throws it. Is it really that fast, faster than the jugs machine they use every day?

How fast does a Jugs machine release a football?​

The Jug machine can throw or kick a football up to 70 miles per hour.

How far does a Jugs machine release a football?​

The Jug machine can throw or kick a football accurately from five to 80 yards with the ability to swivel 360 degrees for passing drills.




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Somebody needs to put a radar gun on the ball when Milton throws it. Is it really that fast, faster than the jugs machine they use every day?

How fast does a Jugs machine release a football?​

The Jug machine can throw or kick a football up to 70 miles per hour.

How far does a Jugs machine release a football?​

The Jug machine can throw or kick a football accurately from five to 80 yards with the ability to swivel 360 degrees for passing drills.




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It doesn’t matter how fast the jug machines are compared to Milton. The point is if he’s gonna throw it hard it’s gotta be more accurate. When guys are wide open he’d be better off to take a little off of it. But who knows, maybe actively trying to take zip off of it throws him off
 
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Somebody needs to put a radar gun on the ball when Milton throws it. Is it really that fast, faster than the jugs machine they use every day?

How fast does a Jugs machine release a football?​

The Jug machine can throw or kick a football up to 70 miles per hour.

How far does a Jugs machine release a football?​

The Jug machine can throw or kick a football accurately from five to 80 yards with the ability to swivel 360 degrees for passing drills.




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You're not catching balls awkwardly off of jugs machine while coming out of a break, in between windows of a defense. It's good practice but not exactly the same.
 
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Somebody needs to put a radar gun on the ball when Milton throws it. Is it really that fast, faster than the jugs machine they use every day?

How fast does a Jugs machine release a football?​

The Jug machine can throw or kick a football up to 70 miles per hour.

How far does a Jugs machine release a football?​

The Jug machine can throw or kick a football accurately from five to 80 yards with the ability to swivel 360 degrees for passing drills.




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I wonder if it would be helpful to let Nico play the first quarter while Joe calms down. Against a good team, Joe is going to lose a game in the first quarter. It was a smart decision last year for the Lady Vols to bring their best player in off the bench.
 
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I wonder if it would be helpful to let Nico play the first quarter while Joe calms down. Against a good team, Joe is going to lose a game in the first quarter. It was a smart decision last year for the Lady Vols to bring their best player in off the bench.

You’d give a true a freshman the start in one of the most difficult places to play in the SEC?

Smart idea!
 
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I wonder if it would be helpful to let Nico play the first quarter while Joe calms down. Against a good team, Joe is going to lose a game in the first quarter. It was a smart decision last year for the Lady Vols to bring their best player in off the bench.

Like I said in an earlier post today, "drugs are good." Name the movie...........common sense is hard to come by these days.....my tank isn't empty ,but some comments make it appear it is close..
 
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Somebody needs to put a radar gun on the ball when Milton throws it. Is it really that fast, faster than the jugs machine they use every day?

How fast does a Jugs machine release a football?​

The Jug machine can throw or kick a football up to 70 miles per hour.

How far does a Jugs machine release a football?​

The Jug machine can throw or kick a football accurately from five to 80 yards with the ability to swivel 360 degrees for passing drills.




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To my knowledge the jugs never throw behind a receiver. When you are coming out of a break at full speed and the ball is thrown behind you at that speed - it is far closer to an uncatchable pass than it is a catchable pass. I think it may even be one of Newton's theories.
 
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Did we really need another thread to trash our QB?

I really hope my post wasn't taken that way. I am firmly in the crowd pulling for Joe to have a solid year and finally hit his potential. He seems like a mature, poised, and likeable guy. He has got to calm down a bit and be more accurate. That's all.

If that is trashing him, I apologize, it isn't my intent.
 
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I really hope my post wasn't taken that way. I am firmly in the crowd pulling for Joe to have a solid year and finally hit his potential. He seems like a mature, poised, and likeable guy. He has got to calm down a bit and be more accurate. That's all.

If that is trashing him, I apologize, it isn't my intent.


You are not trashing him and your comments are spot on.
 
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Yeah it is. However it’s pretty dumb to pretend that the speed of the pass doesn’t change drop rates. Specifically when the throw is slightly off, making an adjustment is much more difficult on a heater.
You can keep trying to put the majority of the blame for the drops on Milton. But you are wrong. Yes Joe had some bad throws but the vast majority of the passes were catchable.
 
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I wonder if it would be helpful to let Nico play the first quarter while Joe calms down. Against a good team, Joe is going to lose a game in the first quarter. It was a smart decision last year for the Lady Vols to bring their best player in off the bench.
Lmao, NO
 
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Milton is going to win us a lot of games this year. Everybody needs to calm down with the negative vibes. WRs need to do what they’re capable of. Can’t think of a better time to get “settled in” to the flow of the season than week 3, just in time to blacken some gator.
 

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