We don’t control our own destiny

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EaglesVols91 said:
It amazes me how poor the Oline is given how senior it is. I guess it’s true that the only thing Pruitt (yuck) left us was a good Oline. Now that his players are gone, the Oline sucks
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Tennessee has a lot of NIL money tied into this OL.

Pruitt “left” us Wright & Carvin. Mays & Spraggins were freshmen & both are still playing now. Their ratings aren’t anything to brag about.
 
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If UT wins out, it's a 99.999% chance they make the playoff. Highly unlikely they win out, but just addressing the original statement, if they win out, they are in.
 
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Dougie_D said:
What if Tx Am , LSU , and TX end up with 1 loss? That’s a 4 way tie. Please explain how TN gets in with other 3 beating ARK ?
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Who does Texas & LSU lose to? If Texas loses to Ga, LSU loses to Ala & somehow Tennessee beats both, I can’t see how Tennessee would be 4th.

Has the SEC even disclosed tiebreaker rules yet? Usually those work top down not bottom up.
 
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Dougie_D said:
Even if we run the table the best we can land is 4th in the SEC based on scheduling .
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I'm guessing the point of your post is that the scheduling favors the other teams. But, if we run the table, obviously the BEST we could finish is first.
 
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Not being the the SEC title game might be a blessing in disguise if we somehow end up with the potential of being in the 12 team playoff.
 
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Dougie_D said:
we have to hope that TX , LSU, TXam lose twice or at least lose to Arkansas.
TX am already beat them snd LSU and TX play them.
there’s a possibility of a 3 way or even 4 way tie at the top with a 1 loss team.
The top 2 SEC teams go to the SEC champ. The East / West doesn’t exist.
We can’t be top 3 if all those teams lose once to each other (like a round robin) and still beat ARK.
Arkansas was more important than people think. It ties us to the top 3 teams.
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It doesn't matter because we aren't winning out anyway.
 
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wmcovol said:
Who does Texas & LSU lose to? If Texas loses to Ga, LSU loses to Ala & somehow Tennessee beats both, I can’t see how Tennessee would be 4th.

Has the SEC even disclosed tiebreaker rules yet? Usually those work top down not bottom up.
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These are the games that matter if TN runs the table and hypothetically each top team only loses 1 time.


TX AM vs LSU : TX AM wins / LSU -1
TX AM vs TX : TX wins / TX AM -1
TX vs GA : GA wins/ TX -1

in a tie breaker we are still 4th best
LSU vs ARK: LSU wins
TX vs ARK: TX wins
TX AM vs ARK : TX AM won
TN vs ARK: TN loss
 
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StickMan said:
I'm guessing the point of your post is that the scheduling favors the other teams. But, if we run the table, obviously the BEST we could finish is first.
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Yes if we run the table we could be first but the current top 3 could potentially only lose 1 game each too. We don’t play the top 3 teams in the SEC as of right now so we would need help from other teams for that to even happen.
We lose on a tie breaker because we didn’t beat ARK.
TX am already beat ARK.
If LSU and TX beat ARK then all 3 go head of us in a tie breaker
 
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Dougie_D said:
Yes if we run the table we could be first but the current top 3 could potentially only lose 1 game each too. We don’t play the top 3 teams in the SEC as of right now so we would need help from other teams for that to even happen.
We lose on a tie breaker because we didn’t beat ARK.
TX am already beat ARK.
If LSU and TX beat ARK then all 3 go head of us in a tie breaker
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You're correct about us not controlling our destiny in the SEC standings. The 3 or 4 way 11-1 tie is very improbable, but technically possible.

Even less likely is the probability of the CFP not selecting 4 SEC teams if that scenario plays out. If you want to go that far...... no team in CFB controls their own destiny.
 
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Dougie_D said:
Yes if we run the table we could be first but the current top 3 could potentially only lose 1 game each too. We don’t play the top 3 teams in the SEC as of right now so we would need help from other teams for that to even happen.
We lose on a tie breaker because we didn’t beat ARK.
TX am already beat ARK.
If LSU and TX beat ARK then all 3 go head of us in a tie breaker
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I gotcha. That is pretty crazy. To be honest, I'd kinda like to see it play out like that to make the committee squirm. Because, again, if we go 11-1 there is no way we're not in.
 
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Dougie_D said:
Even if we run the table the best we can land is 4th in the SEC based on scheduling .
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According to who?

If we win out, that means wins over UGA and Bama, giving both of them at least 2 SEC losses. The only teams that currently have a chance to finish over a 1 loss TN team would be Texas, Mizzou, A&M, and 1 of Arky, LSU, Ole Miss (they are have 1 loss and play each other, so only 1 of them could win out). The chances of Mizzou and Arky finishing the season with 1 SEC loss is slim to none, and slim has 1 leg out of the door.
 
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Carp said:
According to who?

If we win out, that means wins over UGA and Bama, giving both of them at least 2 SEC losses. The only teams that currently have a chance to finish over a 1 loss TN team would be Texas, Mizzou, A&M, and 1 of Arky, LSU, Ole Miss (they are have 1 loss and play each other, so only 1 of them could win out). The chances of Mizzou and Arky finishing the season with 1 SEC loss is slim to none, and slim has 1 leg out of the door.
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LSU is undefeated in the SEC.
If we want go talk about making playoffs then we still have to run the table and hope we are a top 4 SEC team . This is how I’m viewing it :

SEC - champ * , runner up , 3rd best, 4th best
BiG10 - champ * , runner up , 3rd best
ACC - champ *, next best team
BIG12 champ *, next best team
Group of 5 best record *
 
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The teams at the top of the league, and that are in the running for the SEC title, are the teams who are going to the playoffs. However that works out is unknown at this point. The chase for the SEC title is still very important. The SEC champions may lose in the playoff, but they still keep the SEC championship🏆.

If we don't win the SEC but somehow sneak into the playoff, then winning the playoff will become the goal at that point. But since making the playoffs without winning your conference is not guaranteed, having the playoff as a season beginning goal makes absolutely no sense. You may not get there.
 
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Dougie_D said:
LSU is undefeated in the SEC.
If we want go talk about making playoffs then we still have to run the table and hope we are a top 4 SEC team . This is how I’m viewing it :

SEC - champ * , runner up , 3rd best, 4th best
BiG10 - champ * , runner up , 3rd best
ACC - champ *, next best team
BIG12 champ *, next best team
Group of 5 best record *
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We are currently 8th in the country. Granted it's only AP, but AP rankings are still relevant in regards to the first playoff rankings after week 7. If we run the table the rest of the way, your opinion is that we will somehow DROP in rankings???? Yeah, that isn't going to happen.

Again, LSU faces OIe Miss, Arky, and Texas A&M. So if LSU is undefeated, then all 3 of those other teams will be behind us in playoff standings. If LSU loses to any of those teams, they would fall behind us in playoff rankings with 2 losses. Same thing for A&M. They have to win out to finish ahead of us in the playoff rankings, which means LSU would be behind us in playoff rankings.

The truth is, with Texas the only remaining undefeated SEC team, it's almost a disadvantage to make the SECCG with 1 loss. A 1 loss SEC team that loses the SECCG (especially by more than 1 score), will likely drop below other SEC teams with 1 loss who were idle.
 
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We split with ‘Bama/UGA and beat everyone else, we will be in the playoffs. We would be on the road, but we would be in. We lose to both ‘Bama & UGA, then we will have to hope for utter chaos across CF to get in at 9-3. Finish 11-1, and we are hosting a playoff game if not playing for the SECCG & a bye.

The Arky loss put us having to win 1 between the Tide & Dawgs to make it. We lost our buffer zone.
 
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If we win out, we are likely the #3-#5 team in the country.

What planet are you on to think the #3-#5 team, at 11-1, is not in the playoffs?
 
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