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StoVol

StoVol

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i am not impressed with how cuanzo has handled the ware jones situation.... i think that retaining their services is vastly more important than hanging out in houston at the final four, presumably in search of assistants... seeing as how he hired two miss st assistants anyway, it seems to me he could have just as easily accomplished that from knoxville, or georgia (Ware) or memphis(Jones). when he was hired on the 27th there was some initial contact(presumably a courtesy call) then he went quiet on our two critical needs for next year... according to jones... he was unable to contact cuanzo or hamilton for three days, .... i would understand the young man's concern about his future.. the following link delineates the contact/quiet/dead periods for bb
2010-11 NCAA Division I Men's Basketball Recruiting Calendar
a simple flight to atlanta then memphis on the 28th may have sent the proper message to recruits that TN is committed to them and still wants them.... even if contact was limited.. cuanzo could have contacted their high school coach/ principal and left contact info such as phone #'s, email, facebook, twitter, and any and all contact info permissible to the ncaa at the various times available in the recruiting calender... to me it looks bad that he's at the final four when there are more pressing issues back home... if it was to retain coaches then why do you need to go there to hire two assistants that have already worked for you... if its to accept a coaching award then why not fly down the day before and spend those three critical days getting your house in order first... i hope he's not in over his head here.. didn't seem very accustomed to a fifty reporter press conference... i hope he hasnt alienated our only hopes to field an even average bb team next year... 1st weeks performance= Fail
 
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We should've hired you instead. What a mistake! I'm sorry.
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Maybe he's really just not interested in a sg who can't shoot and a pg that keeps getting kicked out of high schools.
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march 31st thru april 7th is the dead period.... this is the contact period March 16 - 22, 2011 Contact Period March Contact Period....i was wondering what kind of contact he could have from the 23rd to the 30th... he could obviously call because he has already done so... so why no contact for three days? oh yeah, he doesn't recruit top 100 players? oh just top ten... ok
 
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Correct. Meaning he can't go meet with Jones/Ware. Also permitted to only 1 phone call per week.
 
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where is the rule of only one contact per week with an athlete who has already signed a LOI... could he not have hopped on the UT plane and traveled to houston via memhis and atlanta to visit their coaches?
 
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FlipsideRunner said:
Maybe he's really just not interested in a sg who can't shoot and a pg that keeps getting kicked out of high schools.
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Great point, is jones going to make the grade? And ware, guess we'll see if his shot developes. I think CCM will do a fine job, have to rebuild, CBP, loved him, but he screwed UT by his indescresions(sp). Go Vols!
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Cuonzo just to correct your spelling haha. I do agree he should have flown to see each recruit, having said that I still think we will do well. If he can overcome having 5 scholly players at little msu, he should do fine here imo.
 
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Well guess he wanted to go to the final four once and figured this was his only chance.
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StoVol said:
march 31st thru april 7th is the dead period.... this is the contact period March 16 - 22, 2011 Contact Period March Contact Period....i was wondering what kind of contact he could have from the 23rd to the 30th... he could obviously call because he has already done so... so why no contact for three days? oh yeah, he doesn't recruit top 100 players? oh just top ten... ok
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Well considering he wasn't hired until the 27th, there's 4 days right there. And as for your comment about him not wanting to recruit just top 100 players, how is that any different from Dooley's comments when he was hired about not wanting to go after all the 5-stars bc they carry too much baggage? Weak argument, IMO. I say get the players that want to play here, the 3 and 4 stars, build a TEAM, and the championships will follow. All you guys still whining about this hire and telling everyone what CCM should have and shouldn't have done to this point amaze me with your ignorance.
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he'll be walking on hot coals if he replicates the record here he had in his first year at missouri state.. that said , the subsequent turnaround was impressive... some say that that conference is pretty tough... if so then winning the title this year should have gotten them into the tournament unless the conf rpi is so low that it prevented them from making the field... if that's the case then it wouldn't be a strong conference tho
 
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supersmo18 said:
Well considering he wasn't hired until the 27th, there's 4 days right there. And as for your comment about him not wanting to recruit just top 100 players, how is that any different from Dooley's comments when he was hired about not wanting to go after all the 5-stars bc they carry too much baggage? Weak argument, IMO. I say get the players that want to play here, the 3 and 4 stars, build a TEAM, and the championships will follow. All you guys still whining about this hire and telling everyone what CCM should have and shouldn't have done to this point amaze me with your ignorance.
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27th thru 30th is three days to make an impression on some very freaked out student athletes worried about their futures... dooley does recruit five star athletes .. we just didn't score any.. calling someone ignorant who simply questions a coach who ignores jones attempts to contact him might be a better definition of ignorance... turning down 2 top 100 players when truying to beat ky and fla might be another... Fail
 
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StoVol said:
i am not impressed with how cuanzo has handled the ware jones situation.... i think that retaining their services is vastly more important than hanging out in houston at the final four, presumably in search of assistants... seeing as how he hired two miss st assistants anyway, it seems to me he could have just as easily accomplished that from knoxville, or georgia (Ware) or memphis(Jones). when he was hired on the 27th there was some initial contact(presumably a courtesy call) then he went quiet on our two critical needs for next year... according to jones... he was unable to contact cuanzo or hamilton for three days, .... i would understand the young man's concern about his future.. the following link delineates the contact/quiet/dead periods for bb
2010-11 NCAA Division I Men's Basketball Recruiting Calendar
a simple flight to atlanta then memphis on the 28th may have sent the proper message to recruits that TN is committed to them and still wants them.... even if contact was limited.. cuanzo could have contacted their high school coach/ principal and left contact info such as phone #'s, email, facebook, twitter, and any and all contact info permissible to the ncaa at the various times available in the recruiting calender... to me it looks bad that he's at the final four when there are more pressing issues back home... if it was to retain coaches then why do you need to go there to hire two assistants that have already worked for you... if its to accept a coaching award then why not fly down the day before and spend those three critical days getting your house in order first... i hope he's not in over his head here.. didn't seem very accustomed to a fifty reporter press conference... i hope he hasnt alienated our only hopes to field an even average bb team next year... 1st weeks performance= Fail
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Mo St., not Mississippi.

Also, periods and paragraphs are required for me to read a long post. = FAIL.

BTW, The Final Four is NOT over until Monday, dude.
 
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oh so he's gonna stay for the championship game to hire another miss st assistant? you can steer your ship thru dangerous waters.. thats fine if you make it... i just hope he has what it takes to guide our bb team... the first week on the job has me a little concerned tho
 
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It doesn't really matter if he stays in Houston until Thursday. That is the earliest possible date anyway, allowed by the NCAA, that he can travel and meet with either of Ware/Jones.

One thing I admire about the guys Hamilton have hired for us; they are not stupid. I can assure you they are constantly going over various options in their heads, planning ahead for the best possible long term approach. Relax, have patience, and be rewarded.
 
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So are you saying they did not go to Ware's high school, evaluate him or talk to Mr. Ware? Interesting.
 
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jones statements of attempted contact might not be true.. but if so how could hamilton get word to him.... look son, we are coming up on a dead period.. we plan to release you from your loi but you're still our top priority.. coach will contact you at the first available opportunity.... would it be illegal to contact a coach and tell him to relay such info to a person already signed? NCAA rules are very tricky and if they have done all they can to contact him i'd stand corrected... but have they?
 
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StoVol said:
i am not impressed with how cuanzo has handled the ware jones situation.... i think that retaining their services is vastly more important than hanging out in houston at the final four, presumably in search of assistants... seeing as how he hired two miss st assistants anyway, it seems to me he could have just as easily accomplished that from knoxville, or georgia (Ware) or memphis(Jones). when he was hired on the 27th there was some initial contact(presumably a courtesy call) then he went quiet on our two critical needs for next year... according to jones... he was unable to contact cuanzo or hamilton for three days, .... i would understand the young man's concern about his future.. the following link delineates the contact/quiet/dead periods for bb
2010-11 NCAA Division I Men's Basketball Recruiting Calendar
a simple flight to atlanta then memphis on the 28th may have sent the proper message to recruits that TN is committed to them and still wants them.... even if contact was limited.. cuanzo could have contacted their high school coach/ principal and left contact info such as phone #'s, email, facebook, twitter, and any and all contact info permissible to the ncaa at the various times available in the recruiting calender... to me it looks bad that he's at the final four when there are more pressing issues back home... if it was to retain coaches then why do you need to go there to hire two assistants that have already worked for you... if its to accept a coaching award then why not fly down the day before and spend those three critical days getting your house in order first... i hope he's not in over his head here.. didn't seem very accustomed to a fifty reporter press conference... i hope he hasnt alienated our only hopes to field an even average bb team next year... 1st weeks performance= Fail
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:bad::bad::bad:

So I guess you only read a few articles and then you use your immense brain to figure out what he should or shouldn't have done. Seems to me I read that he told both players he would meet with them after the final four. He did have an awards banquet to go to in Houston as he won the award for the best minority coach in the nation. He also needs a staff if he is going to get the job done. By the way his lone assistant at the time went to visit Ware. CCM also said he does not recruit players who are going to have problems making the grade and who are going to have personal issues that will cause problems for the team. The kids are supposed to be coming here for school with basketball as an extra curricular activity. I think CCM will be a wonderful coach and will lead us to where we need to go. ANYBODY who expects next year to be great is not living in the real world and needs to grow up. Let the coach have a little time to get things done before you become so critical of what he is doing. After all, he has shown he knows what to do when it comes to basketball, what have you shown us. Nothing.
 
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shot0fclarity said:
it doesn't really matter if he stays in houston until thursday. That is the earliest possible date anyway, allowed by the ncaa, that he can travel and meet with either of ware/jones.

One thing i admire about the guys hamilton have hired for us; they are not stupid. I can assure you they are constantly going over various options in their heads, planning ahead for the best possible long term approach. Relax, have patience, and be rewarded.
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rotflmao
 
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then jones attempt to contact anybody at ut would mean we've cooled on him for your stated reasons.. why not release him and say so then... this is about the bungling of the communication link between hamilton and coach martin and our SIGNED recruits... i'd like to know how that can happen.. if he had a question about closet space in the dormitory i'd hope we'd quickly answer it.. or is awards banquet> 2 top 100 players
 
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