Welfare, food stamps, and free cell phones??

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#27
Subsidizing cell phones is about as asinine as you can get. A big reason there are so many people who need government assistance is because they want to live a lifestyle beyond their means. For example if my family hit a tough spot we would simply scale back on spending. The first thing to go would be cell phones, internet, cable etc. These are luxury items that no one truly needs to survive. Just reinforcing the trappings that get so many people in trouble to begin with.
 
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KB5252 said:
Subsidizing cell phones is about as asinine as you can get. A big reason there are so many people who need government assistance is because they want to live a lifestyle beyond their means. For example if my family hit a tough spot we would simply scale back on spending. The first thing to go would be cell phones, internet, cable etc. These are luxury items that no one truly needs to survive. Just reinforcing the trappings that get so many people in trouble to begin with.
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it's not suprising. the more stuff people get from the government, the more they have to rely on the government and the politicians that provide. it's tough to vote for someone that wants to cutoff free cell phones and abortions. the libs know how keep that power.
 
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Vol Mania 21 said:
i saw a lady one time at the store pay for her food w/ food stamps then turn around and buy cigs w/ money. disgusting
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Happens all the time. The biggest problem with any kind of "safety net" provided by gov't is that it wont be long before people learn how to exploit the system.

Why do you think that the cost of programs like this always greatly exceed their projected cost?

Abuse and fraud.

Many a wise man have claimed that as soon as a large part of a population learn how to vote themselves goodies from the treasury then the days of a republic are numbered.
 
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gasguy98 said:
Happens all the time. The biggest problem with any kind of "safety net" provided by gov't is that it wont be long before people learn how to exploit the system.

Why do you think that the cost of programs like this always greatly exceed their projected cost?

Abuse and fraud.

Many a wise man have claimed that as soon as a large part of a population learn how to vote themselves goodies from the treasury then the days of a republic are numbered.
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the problems with liberalism is that they judge success by their intensions, not by actual results. if your intension are good, then it doesn't matter if the results are a failure.
 
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nickknx865 said:
I think that welfare and foodstamps are good for poor people living around the poverty line or below. What I don't like is people that try and take advantage of the system.
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how are welfare and food stamps helping the situation?

if you haven't noticed, the vast majority on those roles are professionals at taking advantage of the system. It is unarguably a lifestyle. Those operating the system also happen to be the chief enablers.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
how are welfare and food stamps helping the situation?

if you haven't noticed, the vast majority on those roles are professionals at taking advantage of the system. It is unarguably a lifestyle. Those operating the system also happen to be the chief enablers.
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You act like everyone on the system is trying to take advantage of the system and not work.
 
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#33
i think we should have a choice on that 3rd item, lets say instead of cell phones, we could get a playstation 3, or netflix membership. or memebership at a gym we'll never go to. i think i should be entitled to chose my entitlement, it's my right as an American.
 
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nickknx865 said:
You act like everyone on the system is trying to take advantage of the system and not work.
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I'm not acting like anything. I'm telling you we're ok about our 5th or 6th welfare generation and the majority game the system in a huge way.

Unemployment is a different animal.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
I'm not acting like anything. I'm telling you we're ok about our 5th or 6th welfare generation and the majority game the system in a huge way.

Unemploment is a different animal.
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i think most people don't want to be on unemployment. but the other welfare stuff is just pathetic. it's bad when you have a government basically encourage women to have more kids by awarding them more money for each kid. that's one example of the results of liberalism.
 
#36
#36
glad everone is ready to give up their job. Cause this economy is ready to take it
 
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BigPapaVol said:
how are welfare and food stamps helping the situation?

if you haven't noticed, the vast majority on those roles are professionals at taking advantage of the system. It is unarguably a lifestyle. Those operating the system also happen to be the chief enablers.
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When a family NEEDS them to survive, welfare, food stamps etc are a tremendous thing. My thinking is that all government aid should be temporary. Have a set time limit of 6 months max. Start with 3 months and if they still aren't on their feet solidly, give another 3. But after 6 months, you go to the end of the line and start over. The government is NOT your own personal ATM or sugar daddy. People should be accountable for what they spend the welfare on. Housing, utilities, etc. Booze, smokes, car stereos, PS3 etc. should be considered non essential and not purchasable with government funds. Also, if you get busted for a crime, your government aid should be cut off immediately. Personal responsibility people. Learn it. Live it.
 
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volinbham said:
93% indicates otherwise.
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93% ?? i was refering to the first few comments that they were quit their job.

Just alittle sarcasm. Btw, DUDE, your not doing the dude justice, you remind me of Mr. lebowski, not the dude, man. Your out of your element donny
 
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Nash270 said:
93% ?? i was refering to the first few comments that they were quit their job.

Just alittle sarcasm. Btw, DUDE, your not doing the dude justice, you remind me of Mr. lebowski, not the dude, man. Your out of your element donny
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ur crazie
 
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