what a miracle.

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I usually think joevol and gsvol's threads are crazy. This time, I'm surprised at the crap he's getting. Whether you believe God saved her or not, her recovery seems pretty amazing to me. The guy rarely ever has a positive post with a liberal's name in it as it is, I don't think we need to attack him because we don't like his choice of words.
 
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tvolsfan said:
I usually think joevol and gsvol's threads are crazy. This time, I'm surprised at the crap he's getting. Whether you believe God saved her or not, her recovery seems pretty amazing to me. The guy rarely ever has a positive post with a liberal's name in it as it is, I don't think we need to attack him because we don't like his choice of words.
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you need to stop with the diplomacy shizz right now. there's apparently no place for it in politics, and certainly no place for it in Volnation.






... (j/k) solid post.
 
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tvolsfan said:
I usually think joevol and gsvol's threads are crazy. This time, I'm surprised at the crap he's getting. Whether you believe God saved her or not, her recovery seems pretty amazing to me. The guy rarely ever has a positive post with a liberal's name in it as it is, I don't think we need to attack him because we don't like his choice of words.
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so it's wrong to question why god would perform a miracle to allow this woman to live but not do the same for 6 other people?
 
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I don't see how you can read the OP and not see why he it is getting picked at a little.
 
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utvolpj said:
so it's wrong to question why god would perform a miracle to allow this woman to live but not do the same for 6 other people?
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IPorange said:
I don't see how you can read the OP and not see why he it is getting picked at a little.
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In all honesty, I didn't even notice the part where used this as evidence that God is real and performs miracles. No idea how I missed that.
 
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utvolpj said:
so it's wrong to question why god would perform a miracle to allow this woman to live but not do the same for 6 other people?
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The better question is what is the actual miracle? Better put...where is the supernatural in all of this? Did the bullet make a inexplicable turn?
 
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I have a really hard time believing a politician is worth a miracle but a nine year old little girl isn't.
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maybe it was actually Pope John Paul performing his second miracle. The Church really, really wants him to be canonized a Saint.
 
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droski said:
god wanted her by his side obviously.
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I think the whole "God took them" idea is as big a crock of S as government healthcare. God wants that little girl so he has her capped by a lunatic so they both can watch her mother cry in agony and battle depression. Now that's some logic! I want no part of a god that cruel.
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A miracle would have been if the shooter's gun had jammed and somehow killed him instead.
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Lexvol said:
The better question is what is the actual miracle? Better put...where is the supernatural in all of this? Did the bullet make a inexplicable turn?
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A couple of years ago a friend of a girl I was dating went to the hospital to get stitches for a cut and ended up dying from a staph infection he got. I guess this was a miracle too?

Point being, just like people make "miracle" recoveries everyday, people also fall "miraculously" ill everyday and die.

It works both ways. Attributing either to any supernatural or divine intervention is silly IMO.
 
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rjd970 said:
A couple of years ago a friend of a girl I was dating went to the hospital to get stitches for a cut and ended up dying from a staph infection he got. I guess this was a miracle too?

Point being, just like people make "miracle" recoveries everyday, people also fall "miraculously" ill everyday and die.

It works both ways. Attributing either to any supernatural or divine intervention is silly IMO.
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case in point, Royal Marshall, the producer of the Neal Boortz radio show collapsed and died in his home last Friday. He was 43 and, if the pictures are any indication, looked to be in perfect health.
 
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rjd970 said:
A couple of years ago a friend of a girl I was dating went to the hospital to get stitches for a cut and ended up dying from a staph infection he got. I guess this was a miracle too?

Point being, just like people make "miracle" recoveries everyday, people also fall "miraculously" ill everyday and die.

It works both ways. Attributing either to any supernatural or divine intervention is silly IMO.
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That is really my point. I believe there is a God. I've never purposely witnessed or been a part of a an event that cannot be explained by natural law. I know people that say that they have. I'm certainly not here to judge them either.

I'm also not so caught up in "why didn't God intervene on behalf of others", but understand that this is the "problem of evil" that some cannot logically get beyond. Don't get me wrong...I'm not saying it is illogical. I'm simply comfortable with the idea of the random nature of the world and its' coexistence with a Creator. That is just me.

I'm not denying that God interacts and that miracles inexplicably occur or knocking people that do. I just don't see anything beyond explanation in this particular event.
 
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Lexvol said:
That is really my point. I believe there is a God. I've never purposely witnessed or been a part of a an event that cannot be explained by natural law. I know people that say that they have. I'm certainly not here to judge them either.

I'm also not so caught up in "why didn't God intervene on behalf of others", but understand that this is the "problem of evil" that some cannot logically get beyond. Don't get me wrong...I'm not saying it is illogical. I'm simply comfortable with the idea of the radom nature of the world and its' coexistence with a Creator. That is just me.

I'm not denying that God interacts and that miracles inexplicably occur or knocking people that do. I just don't see anything beyond explanation in this particular event.
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Solid post.
 
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Lexvol said:
That is really my point. I believe there is a God. I've never purposely witnessed or been a part of a an event that cannot be explained by natural law. I know people that say that they have. I'm certainly not here to judge them either.

I'm also not so caught up in "why didn't God intervene on behalf of others", but understand that this is the "problem of evil" that some cannot logically get beyond. Don't get me wrong...I'm not saying it is illogical. I'm simply comfortable with the idea of the radom nature of the world and its' coexistence with a Creator. That is just me.

I'm not denying that God interacts and that miracles inexplicably occur or knocking people that do. I just don't see anything beyond explanation in this particular event.
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Thank you for saying what I have been trying to piece together all day.
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Why is this and many other events like this attributed to god? Why not a simple thanks for the doctors, nurses, and other people directly related to helping Mrs. Giffords?
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#47
It's not a matter of whether or not this is a miracle or not but when she's going to go after Sarah Palin for shooting her in the first place. :)

Sorry, had to go there.

It is definitely a miracle. You don't hear of too many people getting shot in the head (from point blank range) and surviving. Let's all hope the fine folks in San Diego do what's right and give him a "fair" trial.
 
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azVolFan said:
It's not a matter of whether or not this is a miracle or not but when she's going to go after Sarah Palin for shooting her in the first place. :)

Sorry, had to go there.

It is definitely a miracle. You don't hear of too many people getting shot in the head (from point blank range) and surviving. Let's all hope the fine folks in San Diego do what's right and give him a "fair" trial.
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Not sure what intervention did or did not occur here. But I would like to see a real miracle....Like VOLS 44 Bama 3 :dance2:
 
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Lexvol said:
That is really my point. I believe there is a God. I've never purposely witnessed or been a part of a an event that cannot be explained by natural law. I know people that say that they have. I'm certainly not here to judge them either.

I'm also not so caught up in "why didn't God intervene on behalf of others", but understand that this is the "problem of evil" that some cannot logically get beyond. Don't get me wrong...I'm not saying it is illogical. I'm simply comfortable with the idea of the random nature of the world and its' coexistence with a Creator. That is just me.

I'm not denying that God interacts and that miracles inexplicably occur or knocking people that do. I just don't see anything beyond explanation in this particular event.
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Per usual, I roll with Lexvol
 
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