What do VN GOPers think of the Cheney issue?

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Behar: Liz Cheney Is ‘Joan of Arc’ Standing up to the GOP ‘Heretics’

Joy Behar told her co-hosts on Wednesday’s broadcast of ABC’s “The View” that Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY) being ousted from Republican House leadership made her like “Joan of Arc” standing up to the Republican heretics.

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Co-host Whoopi Goldberg said, “Joy, about three-quarters of her Republican colleagues voted to boot her. What does this say to the country? What is it saying to you when you hear all this?”

Behar said, “Well, she’s the Joan of Arc standing up to the heretics at this point. She’s very lonely in that position. I do have faith that she’s a tough cookie. It’s refreshing to see someone stand up to the QAnon party who is not afraid to lose her job like the rest of those cowards who are shivering and quivering in the corner that they may have to go back to their old lives.”

Behar: Liz Cheney Is 'Joan of Arc' Standing up to the GOP 'Heretics'
 
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MG1968 said:
See Zell Miller. If you don’t think the democrats do the same thing, you’re wrong.
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??????????? Zell Miller proves more of the opposite. He chose to not run again. He chose to support Bush. He wasn't voted out by dems.
 
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hog88 said:
I'm suuuure he made the decision not to run again all by himself.
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He did. He said the party no longer represented what it did in the JFK days.

Imagine that, a party progressing over a 40 year period. Problem was, Zell didn't. He earned the name zig-zag Zell for a reason.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
You have do look long and hard to find a leftist that doesn't toe the party line though. Case in point ^^^^^

Obama could tell them to lick bee hives and they would all do it.
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So AOC and Pelosi are always toeing the same line? Yea, right.
 
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luthervol said:
So AOC and Pelosi are always toeing the same line? Yea, right.
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They do when it comes to partisan hackery. The closest you have to anyone who doesn't is Manchin. Pelosi SETS what comes before the body you idiot. AOC will vote against anything conservative. If that happens to align with Cruella deVille, then so be it.

Just for a lulz moment... Only fatazz is standing because they didn't have a crane available to pick him up
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midnight orange said:
Not a gop’er but she’s a psychopath just like her dad. She’s satiated by the death of third worlders. She tried to stop Trump’s authorization to remove troops from Afghanistan, one of the few good things Trump did.
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1. Turd wordlers
2. Who isn't satiated by that? You ain't lived till your standing over the corpses of your vanquished turd world enemies and draw in a deep breath through your nose that smells like diesel fuel, turmeric, and hot garbage.



ps..I never stood over the corpses of turd worlders.


..the synthetic leather/nylon on my desert combat boots where a bastard to clean..
 
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Chaney's replacement

"I am concerned about some of the contacts between Russians and surrogates within the Trump Organization and the Trump campaign.”

“I’ve disagreed with the President’s rhetoric numerous times when it comes to how he addresses women.”

"I think he has been insulting to women,"

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'Not who we are as a country': Elise Stefanik once harshly blasted Trump's rhetoric and policies
By Andrew Kaczynski and Em Steck, CNN
Updated 7:47 AM EDT, Fri May 07, 2021

(CNN)New York Rep. Elise Stefanik, one of former President Donald Trump's loudest defenders in Congress, once harshly attacked Trump over both his rhetoric and policies, claiming that she'd be an "independent voice."

Stefanik, a rising Republican star who is working to replace Rep. Liz Cheney as the House GOP conference chair, has spent much of the last two years as a fierce defender of the former President, particularly during his first impeachment inquiry. After the 2020 election, she has recently encouraged and promoted lies about the 2020 election and objected to the Electoral College vote in Pennsylvania.

But in 2015, 2016 and the early days of his first term in office, Stefanik criticized Trump over everything from his incendiary comments about Muslims and women to his signature policy positions, such as reforming NATO, building a US-Mexico border wall and having stronger cooperation with Russia.


In interviews during the 2016 Republican presidential primary, Stefanik said Trump would not become the GOP nominee for president. In one August 2015 interview, she said his campaign had peaked.

Stefanik, in her freshman term as a congresswoman, also said she believed Trump should release his tax returns to the public, which Trump famously never did. Stefanik did not endorse any candidate during the primary, and though she pledged she would support the Republican nominee, she initially did not invoke Trump's name.

In another interview, in which she didn't mention Trump by name, Stefanik blasted candidates who disqualified themselves by making "untruthful statements."

"I think in the presidential field, there are some candidates — who over the long run and they've already started this process — are somewhat disqualifying themselves with untruthful statements," she said in one local radio interview in December 2015. "Not being willing to really talk about the substance of issues and just firing away rhetorical devices that don't necessarily have a basis in fact."

Stefanik also frequently criticized Trump's rhetoric, saying in one January 2016 interview, "Unfortunately, it's tapping into the fear today of our security situation." She added, "I think we should expect more substance out of our candidates."

CNN reached out to Stefanik's office, but they declined to comment on the record.

On Thursday, however, Stefanik said on Steve Bannon's podcast that she would never forget campaigning during the 2016 election and said that she "really paid attention to the voters and the people in my district" who supported Trump.

"The energy was just palpable. Anyone on the ground or who was knocking on doors, talking to voters, understood that it was going to be a historic election. The media didn't get it. The establishment didn't get it. I was proud to be a part of it. And I was proud to be on that ticket and to win by a huge, huge margin as well as President Trump's huge double-digit victory in my district," she said.

Disparaging women
Stefanik also said Trump's "insulting" rhetoric about women hurt the Republican Party's efforts to expand its appeal to women voters.

"I think he has been insulting to women," Stefanik said in another local radio interview in August 2015, referring to Trump's misogynistic comments about then-Fox News anchor Megyn Kelly. "I think this may be Mr. Trump's peak moment. And I think we're going to see his numbers change and decline over the coming weeks and months as the other candidates have an opportunity to share their vision for the future of this country."

"We need to ensure that we're increasing our party's ability to reach out to women," she added. "And I work on that in Congress. I care passionately about that. And Donald Trump's comments have not helped that effort. They've hurt that effort."


"Trump's comments are just wrong - No matter when he said them or whatever the context,"

"I think there is no excuse to be attacking Gold Star families,"
 
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‘Death By a Thousand Cuts’: How the House GOP Took Down Cheney

Her lightning-quick removal as Republican No. 3 all started in the Sunshine State.

House GOP leaders were preparing to walk on stage for a press conference in Orlando sixteen days ago when one of Liz Cheney’s colleagues delivered her a warning.

Cheney was bound to get asked about Donald Trump and Jan. 6, her fellow Republican cautioned her, counseling her to pivot away from the question. She didn’t take the advice. Cheney buckled down, splitting with House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy on the scope of a commission to probe the Capitol riot and citing “ongoing criminal investigations” when asked if Trump should be charged for inciting the insurrection.

That dismissal of her colleague’s advice, recounted by a Republican source briefed on the conversation, ultimately changed the trajectory of Cheney’s political future.

Cheney’s actions at her conference’s policy retreat in Florida, including other interviews where she challenged Trump, did more than make headlines — they broke the dam, releasing pent-up frustrations with the Wyoming Republican.

‘Death by a thousand cuts’: How the House GOP took down Cheney
 
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