what if?

[sjt18]

those blowouts was the #1,#4,and #5 ranked teams in the nation. Two of them on the road and with a true freshman quarterback. I'm 100% VFL and have been since 1975 and I have watched GREAT Tennessee teams play and this last decade has been tough, but we still ain't a good team and it's not going to happen overnight.

No one asked for it to happen overnight. Improvement over the course of the season instead of regression would have been encouraging. Some evidence that players were being coached up would have been nice. A win over an inferior Vandy team would have been positive.

It is common for those who excuse the staff of all responsibility to exaggerate the "expectations" of those who criticize them. All I wanted was for them to prove they can coach at a "championship level". They didn't.

 

[cd12]

IFs and BUTs were candy and nuts we would all have a Merry Christmas and have gone to a bowl, what if the season flipped and we played Vandy and Kentucky early in the season and gotten our 6 wins by halloween?????

This team could have had only one loss going into the third week in October. Ducks aside the rest were very winable.

 

[VOLINVONORE]

You can't be serious. Butch took over a team that had no experience at QB, WR, No playmakers any where. No quality DBs for SEC play. No backups. What did you expect this team to do? Plus we lost to all top 10 or 15 teams before the Vandy game. This team is beat up. We did beat a top team in S Carolina did you forget that. Something Dooley never did and he had Bray, Patterson Rodgers and Hunter.

Don't encourage him. He is a troll in the worst way and thrives on acting stupid.

 

[sjt18]

Watch their hudl film.

I don't have to prove a thing, because you wouldn't admit it either way.

That's even worse than what you suggested before. There are alot of guys who dominate HS competition and cannot make the step up. ALL of the guys you all have been calling untalented all year were dominate players in HS. That doesn't prove anything.

Go back and look at Pig's highlights. Go back and look at how dominant guys like Miller, Smith, and McNeil were in HS.

Yes. If you are going to be such a "great" fan that you blame the players and their ability for everything and the coaches for nothing... then claim that when all these better players show up all problems will be solved... it become entirely relevant how you determined they were so great.

I hope they are. I hope what we witnessed this year was all part of some grand strategy and they've withheld players to develop them for later... because otherwise the coaching is not only suspect... it is a block to the recovery of the program.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Matthews just won another game for Vandy. He is the best receiver in the SEC. Glad to see him go.

No his not the best. LSU receivers are the best.

 

[sjt18]

You can't be serious. Butch took over a team that had no experience at QB, WR,

Dooley tookover a team that had no QB at all... literally. No QB returned from the previous year. The best RB and there was only one had about 300 career yards. He had no DT's returning. Two Fr started at LB, one at S, and another at CB. Four different Fr would start on the OL.

That team played a schedule just as tough and still made a bowl game.

No playmakers any where. No quality DBs for SEC play. No backups. What did you expect this team to do?

I expected them to be well coached. I expected to see improvement over the course of the year. I expected to see them to beat teams with less talent. I expected to see some sign that this staff could coach a team up.

Plus we lost to all top 10 or 15 teams before the Vandy game.

Yeah.... UF and UGA really turned out to be great, huh? The other 4 losses were blowouts that weren't competitive after the 1st qtr.

This team is beat up. We did beat a top team in S Carolina did you forget that.

Yes. One good game saved by two circus catches.... vs a loss to Vandy and 4 FCS school impressions. Sorry. But if you win one like that then follow it up with 4 games like what we saw through VU.... you have proven NOTHING.

Something Dooley never did and he had Bray, Patterson Rodgers and Hunter.

And.... Dooley proved to be a bad coach, right? Against a very similar schedule and with even less talent... Dooley won more games. He went to a bowl game and should have won. THAT is what has me so concerned and not very positive about this staff. Added to that.... the roster does not appear to be getting better next fall. In fact, it looks worse.

Maybe you will answer where others won't. What would you have me put my hopes in? Can you give me a good, well thought out reason to believe in this staff's ability to coach and develop players? One game that looks alot like a fluke at this point isn't enough....

 

[sjt18]

Don't encourage him. He is a troll in the worst way and thrives on acting stupid.

Right.... I am the one just asking for reasons to believe this is the right staff and giving reasons that weigh against them. I suppose asking for something other than blind faith makes someone a "troll", right?

Don't be a jerk. If you can answer the challenge then do. I'd much rather believe Jones has the answers than not. But unlike those of you who do not "thrive on acting stupid".... I actually want REASONS and FACTS... to base my hopes and opinions on.

 

[sjt18]

FWIW, the coaching looked better tonight. The same game plan last week probably gives UT a win vs Vandy. Maybe that's "progress".

 

[LotteryPick]

That's even worse than what you suggested before. There are alot of guys who dominate HS competition and cannot make the step up. ALL of the guys you all have been calling untalented all year were dominate players in HS. That doesn't prove anything.

Go back and look at Pig's highlights. Go back and look at how dominant guys like Miller, Smith, and McNeil were in HS.

Yes. If you are going to be such a "great" fan that you blame the players and their ability for everything and the coaches for nothing... then claim that when all these better players show up all problems will be solved... it become entirely relevant how you determined they were so great.

I hope they are. I hope what we witnessed this year was all part of some grand strategy and they've withheld players to develop them for later... because otherwise the coaching is not only suspect... it is a block to the recovery of the program.

Yes, go back and look at all their highlights.

Pig has played well. The plays drawn up from him have been questionable.

Johnson wasn't fast in HS, McNeil wasn't the most athletic, neither was Coleman. All these guys played well in HS, but they were not receiving praise for their great athleticism.

This class is VERY athletic. Am I saying they'll produce? No, never said that. I AM saying they'll be a lot more athletic and that isn't debatable.