What is the ACC doing right now?

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Rasputin_Vol

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Seems like you are not hearing anything out of there other than rumors of FSU, Miami, Va Tech or Clemson leaving...
 
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I've also heard Miami and VT release statements saying they aren't looking to go anywhere, and that the ACC is the right place for them.

Other than that, crickets.
 
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They are trying to go into witness protection to avoid getting plundered when all this goes down.
 
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I say the ACC is looking at the Big East and trying to rank the schools they would go after if they lose some.
 
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IPorange said:
I've also heard Miami and VT release statements saying they aren't looking to go anywhere, and that the ACC is the right place for them.

Other than that, crickets.
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And under their breath at the end of the statement, they said "unless the SEC calls...."
 
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Let's raid them for UNC and Duke. Totally crushes the ACC in basketball, the only sport they're really viable in, anyway.

Screw GT, Miami, Clemson, and FSU. They add no new markets to the SEC, and that's what this expansion is all about.

NC and Duke bring excellent basketball programs and a up-and-coming football program in UNC. Duke has steadily improved in football as well...slightly. Hey, if we took South Carolina last expansion surely we can take Duke in this one.
 
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JoeKyleVol said:
Let's raid them for UNC and Duke. Totally crushes the ACC in basketball, the only sport they're really viable in, anyway.

Screw GT, Miami, Clemson, and FSU. They add no new markets to the SEC, and that's what this expansion is all about.

NC and Duke bring excellent basketball programs and a up-and-coming football program in UNC. Duke has steadily improved in football as well...slightly. Hey, if we took South Carolina last expansion surely we can take Duke in this one.
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Those are some good points on UNC and Duke. One wouldn't go without the other, but they would leave Wake and NC St in their dust.
 
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JoeKyleVol said:
Let's raid them for UNC and Duke. Totally crushes the ACC in basketball, the only sport they're really viable in, anyway.

Screw GT, Miami, Clemson, and FSU. They add no new markets to the SEC, and that's what this expansion is all about.

NC and Duke bring excellent basketball programs and a up-and-coming football program in UNC. Duke has steadily improved in football as well...slightly. Hey, if we took South Carolina last expansion surely we can take Duke in this one.
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Uhhh... not necessarily. It is also about program content. You add Clemson and Miami into the SEC, you get better football programming.
 
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I'll be shocked if UNC and Duke join the SEC. I think Coach K especially would be against that.
 
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jlovevols said:
Those are some good points on UNC and Duke. One wouldn't go without the other, but they would leave Wake and NC St in their dust.
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This is my reasoning for why I'm so adamant about adding the NC schools:

Here is the list for possible schools the SEC might add in expansion:

GT
Miami
FSU
Clemson
UNC
Duke
VT
UVA
WV
Texas A&M
Oklahoma
Missouri

These are the only real potential options for expansion.

Let's assess each one:

GT--adds no new market. We already control Atlanta because UGA is top Dawg in that state (pun intended) and it is also the site of the SEC Championship game each year. They also left the conference on bad terms. GT brings no benefit and only subdivides the pie for TV revenue by bringing in an already-covered market.

FSU--Florida will not likely allow this. Not only that, but we already have THE team in the state of Florida already. Sure they add a good football program, but no new market is really reached here.

Clemson--an SEC-esque football program with rabid fans doesn't make up for the fact that they are already in a small market which is also covered by SC. No new TV market= no addition to the SEC.

Miami--see FSU.

VT--brings a good football program, but their market reach is rather limited. I consider them an option because they do extend into a new state, but they still leave much to be desired.

UVA--see VT, but minus the "good football program" part.

WV--see VT.

Texas A&M--would be an excellent addition because of the Texas markets we would reach. However, most likely they are a package deal with Texas, and Texas isn't coming here.

OU--would also be an excellent addition because we add another traditional football super-power to the SEC and reach markets in an unreached state. However, they are also likely joined at the hip to Texas.

Missouri--probably headed to the Big 10. They add the St.Louis and Kansas City markets, but aside from that, don't bring much to the conference besides new TV sets.

UNC--adds a decent football program that is quickly improving under Butch Davis. Also adds a historical powerhouse in basketball. Reaches the NC markets and takes the flagship university of the ACC.

Duke--adds a mediocre football program, but they have been slowly improving under Cutcliffe. Like UNC, they add another powerhouse in basketball. While less desirable to the SEC than UNC, they would most likely be a package deal with the Tar Heels. They also extend into the NC market.

Imagine the basketball we could have in the SEC with UNC and Duke added:

Kentucky, UNC, Duke, Tennessee, Florida, and Vandy? Nice.

We would dominate in the two most popular sports in college athletics.

My ideal additions would be Texas A&M, OU, UNC, and Duke. That way we reach into three new states and pretty much cover the entire Southeast (and part of the Midwest) while effectively destroying the ACC by taking the two most prominent schools. The NC schools would also exponentially improve academics.

It's probably a pipe dream, but I view it as the most-realistic most-beneficial option.
 
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I don't think Duke/UNC would ever leave the ACC, even for the SEC. They'd cease to have any relevancy at all in football, and I dont think they want any part of a Calipari-led UK team.

But it WOULD be the best case scenario. I just wonder how football scheduling would go with 8 teams in each division. It really would be a nightmare.
 
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JoeKyleVol said:
Clemson is in South Carolina, and we already have a team there. Why add another when we can add schools from unreached markets?
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It seems to work for Alabama and Mississippi.

The LAST team I would want to see in the SEC is Clampson, but I can see why they would fit in the SEC.
 
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Outdors21 said:
I don't think Duke/UNC would ever leave the ACC, even for the SEC. They'd cease to have any relevancy at all in football, and I dont think they want any part of a Calipari-led UK team.

But it WOULD be the best case scenario. I just wonder how football scheduling would go with 8 teams in each division. It really would be a nightmare.
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Well, I think the best scenario is we expand Westward and Eastward by adding two teams from each region.

Then we could split the conferences into 4 4-team divisions.

I love Clay Travis' idea of having two permanent rivals for each team and then have divisional rotation for other SEC opponents.
 
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I've read that the big ten is giving Missouri the cold shoulder. Missouri has a respectable football program--on the upswing--and a good basketball program. Would be a very solid addition to the SEC, IMO--new TV markets, state school, respectable programs. The SEC doesn't have to do anything, really, but big 10 and pac 10 expansion will certainly put those conferences closer to par with the sec in terms of football strength and TV ratings appeal/TV financial package. The SEC will have to decide whether it wants to try and one-up--which even if it does may not be that easy. I would certainly try hard to get texas a&m--why the aggies want to carry water for texas, I don't know. The SEC should try to drive a wedge in this big 12 block that may bolt for pac 10--and Slive may be attempting that. The big 12 has not been in a happy state but I don't get the impression that ACC schools are too interested in switching conferences.
 
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