What To Do With Hardesty

#28
#28
i think Hardesty is a great candidate for kickoff returns (although i like Coker better) and kick coverage.
 
#29
#29
Well, whatever they decide to do with him, this is a good problem to have...as thin as we are in some positions, RB is not one. You need 3 in this league anyway, and i can't see them moving him to Defense. the kid has skills, he just needs to learn the college game a little. the lateral movmenet and moves he makes may have worked great in HS, but at this level, you are no longer the fastes guy on the feild. they'll work with him and get him better.

I could see them uisng him in special teams for returns...so long as he can prove he can hold on to the ball.

the big knock on both Coker and Hardesty was ball security if memory serves.
 
#31
#31
Chattownsfinest said:
Get off the kids' back. He's what not even a year removed from ACL surgery?? Come on people. You need at least a 2 years to be fully recovered from that kind of injury. Look at Daunte Culpepper in Miami.
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An even better example would be Edgerrin James with the Colts. He tore his ACL and was clearly not the same running back for 2 years. He was still solid, but not one of the the best in the league. After he completely recovered, he became one of the NFL's best once again. Hardesty may need another year to recuperate. Before the knee injury he was ahead of both these guys on the depth chart.
 
#32
#32
CPF On RB Rotation:

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Just because Montario Hardesty received just one carry against Georgia, Fulmer said the Vols are committed to using all three tailbacks. Arian Foster, returning from his ankle injury, combined with Coker to rush for 120 yards on 27 carries.

"I think it's a nice combination, and I'm not excluding Montario Hardesty," Fulmer said. "You need three backs. They have to believe in each other and believe in the system, and in the fourth quarter, you have a fresh guy."

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#33
#33
That's all fine and dandy, and CPF always knows the right things to say. but we've all been seeing the games and we've all seen that coker and foster are (at least right now) playing at a different level than hardesty.

So my point is simply this. We have a talented guy in hardesty who obviously is not yet up to par in the RB role at the college level . Do we demote him to the 1-carry-per-game guy, or do we try to use him in some different manner.

I don't think it's blasphemy to suggest that MH could be used on the defensive side of the ball. With coker and foster healthy and sharing carries at RB, MH is just dead weight at that position.

KB
 
#34
#34
Dude, what we are saying is that he is not dead weight at the position. If you move him to defense then that means he doesnt practice at RB during the week. Coker or Foster get hurt in the game and then all the sudden wehave only 1 solid RB available??? That was what Fulmer meant when he said we "need" three backs. Not to mention, the knee surgery is what is still slowing him down a little at RB so why would it be any different on defense?
 
#35
#35
when coker and foster get handoffs, i get excited and get prepared for a big gain.

when hardesty touches the ball, i get prepared for about a second and a half of dancing at the line of scrimmage, followed by the inevitable 1 yard loss.

you can't blame his inability to hit a hole on his knee.
 
#39
#39
therickbol said:
Dude, what we are saying is that he is not dead weight at the position. If you move him to defense then that means he doesnt practice at RB during the week. Coker or Foster get hurt in the game and then all the sudden wehave only 1 solid RB available??? That was what Fulmer meant when he said we "need" three backs. Not to mention, the knee surgery is what is still slowing him down a little at RB so why would it be any different on defense?
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Dude, how many reps do you think the 3rd TB gets in practice? I don't think you move him now, but if you go through spring and he's still clearly the 3rd guy...why leave him there?
 
#40
#40
Chattownsfinest said:
Get off the kids' back. He's what not even a year removed from ACL surgery?? Come on people. You need at least a 2 years to be fully recovered from that kind of injury. Look at Daunte Culpepper in Miami.
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I was just making an observation...he dropped the ball and never came back , thus I wondered if he'd been putting it on the ground in practice.:mf_surrender:
 
#41
#41
volmanjr said:
I was just making an observation...he dropped the ball and never came back , thus I wondered if he'd been putting it on the ground in practice.:mf_surrender:
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I don't know if he's putting it on the ground in practice or not, but the real problem is...HE'S NOT AS GOOD AS THE OTHER TWO.
 
#42
#42
mikey said:
I don't know if he's putting it on the ground in practice or not, but the real problem is...HE'S NOT AS GOOD AS THE OTHER TWO.
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Actually Foster and Coker are the ones with the history of fumbling.
 
#43
#43
Hardesty will be fine at RB we will need him again before the season ends. The competition will make him better. Whenever you think your set at a position that is likely where injuries seem to happen for us.
 
#44
#44
mikey said:
Why would you put your best TB in the slot when they have the receivers that they have?
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1. I was clearly being facetious.

2. The idea was to get them all out there at the same time, one being a WR. If any of the running backs would be used as a receiver, it would be Coker.
 
#45
#45
Putting Hardesty in the slot is not such a farfetched idea. Anybody remember Derrick Tinsley?
 
#46
#46
mikey said:
Dude, how many reps do you think the 3rd TB gets in practice? I don't think you move him now, but if you go through spring and he's still clearly the 3rd guy...why leave him there?
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Are you serious? I thought you said you were a football coach. The 3rd string RB at a major SEC football school gets plenty of work in practice. He is in the film room studying just as much, he is being taught every facet of that weeks gameplan, and he is getting reps on the field. I dont understand why you dont realize how close to important playing time a 3rd string RB is in the SEC.
 
#47
#47
therickbol said:
Are you serious? I thought you said you were a football coach. The 3rd string RB at a major SEC football school gets plenty of work in practice. He is in the film room studying just as much, he is being taught every facet of that weeks gameplan, and he is getting reps on the field. I dont understand why you dont realize how close to important playing time a 3rd string RB is in the SEC.
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I agree that the 3rd TB is important...but I don't think you leave Hardesty as the 3rd guy if he can help somewhere else...I'm trying to give your boyfriend a compliment in all of this. If you'd see through your love for him and your profound pissdom that he is clearly number 3 you might see that. The guy can play the game. Why leave him on the sidelines as the 3rd TB (which he will continue to be as long as Coker and Foster are healthy and wearing orange) if he can play somewhere else.
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