What type of NIL deal would it take to keep Dylan Sampson?

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GoVols64 said:
It's a math equation. If he is a projected round 2-3 guy you go and get your money. If he is a back half of the draft guy you "could" consider staying for the right amount of NIL. The fact is a $1M+, if properly managed, is better in hand than potential earnings down the road.

Risk management is also an issue with likeliness to improve draft position and potential future earnings against potential for injury. The offense should only get better as Nico matures so I believe his main concern would be draft forecasting and potential injury (which can be insured against).

As others have said the RB postiion, unelss your name is Barkley or Henry, isn't valued as much as it used to be in the NFL due to shelf life of RBs.
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It's not the rookie contract. Each bit of mileage on his legs shortens his career on the END of usefulness in the league.

He's not, hopefully, looking at "matching the rookie money" but on getting in and getting to he next contract.

What he'd be cutting into is when his "that's all the carries he's got in him" time runs out. Taking those snaps in college next year vs having an extra year in the league on the back end of his career when the money is WAY WAY WAY out of NIL range if he's successful.

Those looking at "we can match rookie money" aren't looking at it correctly. Can we match the money in his last year? No...... No way.
 
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Concept said:
I think OP's point is that if the NFL doesn't value running backs, we might consider bidding against that.
However, just because an amount is "small" in the NFL doesn't mean it's affordable for an ncaa team.

(I don't know the numbers, just wanted to make sure people are arguing the same thing. I too want him to get drafted high and succeed at the next level.)
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One thing to consider is the chance of losing any retirement benefits from the NFL. Another year at UT would probably mean one less in NFL
 
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The only smart move is go to the NFL, get the best signing bonus and base contract you can, and after that, instruct your agent to load it up with performance incentives.

NFL running back = Russian roulette. You're just betting your body against time & chance.
 
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Oldblood said:
I was thinking about this as I looked at Jalen Wright's contract with Miami. His four-year deal pays about $4-5 million so a little over $1 million per year. Since running back is not a high value position and Dylan might not be an very early pick (even if he has a great season), I wonder if there is any NIL scenarios that might keep him at UT.

I could see a word where if he's projected as 2nd/3rd rounder, he might stay to earn some $'s and increase his draft stock.
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Running backs that play 3 years in college and are producers that third year should go to the NFL. RB bodies have a short life span typically. They need to make what they can, hope they can produce and get a second contract. They do not need to expose body to another year of college IMO
 
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Oldblood said:
I was thinking about this as I looked at Jalen Wright's contract with Miami. His four-year deal pays about $4-5 million so a little over $1 million per year. Since running back is not a high value position and Dylan might not be an very early pick (even if he has a great season), I wonder if there is any NIL scenarios that might keep him at UT.

I could see a word where if he's projected as 2nd/3rd rounder, he might stay to earn some $'s and increase his draft stock.
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You are talking about the player who most would consider our MVP on this team at this point. This guy will soon break the school record for most touchdowns in a season…more TDs than any running back we’ve ever had. I believe he is the leading rusher in the SEC. (By the way, these accomplishments are a stone-cold tribute and testimony to our offensive line, whose pass protection performance has been this team’s Achilles Heel. Those beefeaters have been outstanding in producing a stellar running game…the best in the SEC. When is the last time that happened?)

If we want Sampson to return, we obviously need to pay him to not declare for the draft. We need to make that compensation competitive with what he would likely earn in his first year as a rookie RB, maybe with some performance incentives.

White, et al are gonna have to write some big checks at the end of this season. We cannot afford to lose Tim Banks, for example.
 
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Oldblood said:
I was thinking about this as I looked at Jalen Wright's contract with Miami. His four-year deal pays about $4-5 million so a little over $1 million per year. Since running back is not a high value position and Dylan might not be an very early pick (even if he has a great season), I wonder if there is any NIL scenarios that might keep him at UT.

I could see a word where if he's projected as 2nd/3rd rounder, he might stay to earn some $'s and increase his draft stock.
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I have no clue. But I highly doubt Sampson pure up the kind of numbers Wright did at the combine are extremely slim. I don’t think Sampson is quite that athletic. So he may not get as good of a rookie deal.

But honestly it’s not worth him coming back. He wouldn’t play his way into the first or second round next year. I would love it if he came back but he needs to go pro while he can
 
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Whatever he decides is fine. I am just thrilled with how he has, and particularly IS, playing for us. He has taken the offense on his back.
 
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BelleVol said:
Who will actually be #1 RB next year?
Cam Seldon so far isn’t trending as advertised.
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Looks like Bishop at the moment. But, Peyton Lewis may challenge that based on his development. Keith and Seldon may be in the mix. Seldon actually played some offense Saturday, so that looks like the current pecking order.
I would love to have Dylan back. But, losing him in this system will probably be one of our easiest roster problems to solve.
 
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savannahfan said:
Who gives a sh--! Running backs like him are everywhere. Now (here's that word) potential great backs don't come along very often.
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What are you talking about? Dude is about to set a 95 year old single season rushing TD record the next time he scores.
 
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Oldblood said:
I was thinking about this as I looked at Jalen Wright's contract with Miami. His four-year deal pays about $4-5 million so a little over $1 million per year. Since running back is not a high value position and Dylan might not be an very early pick (even if he has a great season), I wonder if there is any NIL scenarios that might keep him at UT.

I could see a word where if he's projected as 2nd/3rd rounder, he might stay to earn some $'s and increase his draft stock.
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$300,000 would be a fair NIL offer to Sampson in my opinion.
 
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Volfan1000 said:
$300,000 would be a fair NIL offer to Sampson in my opinion.
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The rookie minimum is $795,000 in the NFL.
The practice team minimum comes out to about $250-300k.

If folks think a true pro caliber athlete is going to risk his or her body staying in college vs going pro, they're nuts. Unless they are "marginal" to make the pros, another year of college ball isn't worth the risk...... never will be.
 
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BelleVol said:
Who will actually be #1 RB next year?
Cam Seldon so far isn’t trending as advertised.
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Bishop is a RS freshman and runs as hard as Sampson. Granted he lacks the experience in pass protection, but his power and speed as a young RB is impressive. When he comes in to the game I don't notice much of a drop in production outside of pass protection.

To me he is a similar back to Sampson. In no way am I saying he is a direct replacement at this time, but I would have to see more than what we have seen from Cam Seldon to think that he will be RB#1 over Bishop.
 
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UCVOL said:
What are you talking about? Dude is about to set a 95 year old single season rushing TD record the next time he scores.
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Tell me, who else has had even a few time to score tds? And be the way, is appears this is the only way we can score in close.
 
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It is best for both parties in the long term for Sampson to go pro. It shows that we once again put another running back in the League early, who is one of the best backs in the SEC. Sampson gets to go pro splitting carries the majority of his 3 years at UT and it makes him more desirable to NFL clubs. His versatility makes him even more draftable and it gets him closer to the 2nd contract. The second contract is what he and everyone else in the NFL are striving for because it is life/family changing WEALTH that comes with it.
 
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Oldblood said:
I was thinking about this as I looked at Jalen Wright's contract with Miami. His four-year deal pays about $4-5 million so a little over $1 million per year. Since running back is not a high value position and Dylan might not be an very early pick (even if he has a great season), I wonder if there is any NIL scenarios that might keep him at UT.

I could see a word where if he's projected as 2nd/3rd rounder, he might stay to earn some $'s and increase his draft stock.
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As a RB, Dylan will never be more valuable than he will be in the next draft. 2nd or 3rd was always going to be his ceiling, and going now gets him one year closer to that second contract, which is where the real generational money is if he's fortunate enough health wise to get there.

Just like the NFL, it's a good idea at this level to continue to recruit and develop backs, as the college shelf life of a great back will always be limited by the need to get to the NFL as early as they can.

We just need to get the next guy to follow Wright and Sampson, and establish UT as a place for great RB recruits to see as a pathway to the pros - Bishop might just be that next guy.
 
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