Wheels falling off?

#28
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lylsmorr said:
He said they lost? I thought he said they were within 37ish seconds of losing.
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I was talking about the assumption that they would lose when it was a one point game. The four game streak he referred to was obviously a losing streak. No need to split hairs here.
 
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#29
#29
Mullins2010 said:
Belmont is a good team.......if u dont think so..ur crazy
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It's possible I'm crazy either way. Sanity is for losers.

We beat Belmont by 9 the second game of the year. We were up by way more and allowed them to come back. And we weren't even playing well then.

Belmont is a good little team, and they're well-coached, but Tennessee should have been able to spank them this time round.
 
#30
#30
athmad said:
Might be a good idea to wait until after they win to talk about how bad it is that they lost.:good!:
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If you think that a last second win against Belmont signals a "righting" of our program, then good for you. I posted when there were 37 seconds left on the clock, and Belmont went up shortly after.

Point is: 2 weeks ago, people were talking about a possible Final Four caliber team, with huge wins over Villanova and Pitt. Now, we look like an NIT team. OK, I'll give you that Oakland and USC aren't patsies, but what do you think a top-5 team would do with our last 4 game stretch?

Put Pitt in an empty gym against them, and predict the final point spread. I think my 80-point margin is dang close.

Anyone who doesn't accept that there is a big, big problem right now, and maybe can't see the elephant in the corner, is blind to the current state of affairs.
 
#31
#31
Most probably didn't predict this team to beat Villanova or Pitt. In reality, Tennessee's record is only one game worse than most expectated. Those two wins skewed everyone's perspective.
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#32
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Fingers said:
Most probably didn't predict this team to beat Villanova or Pitt. In reality, Tennessee's record is only one game worse than most expectated. Those two wins skewed everyone's perspective.
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Well, winning a tournament (no matter how insignificant) and easily handling a top-5 team on the road will have that effect. Plus, you can't just look at the overall record, you have to take the competition into account -- the 'AA selection committee will, for sure.
 
#33
#33
Last nights game was like a loss. You lose to Belmont that's totally embarrassing. Perhaps we played over our heads a few games and now we have sunk back to reality. Just an average team.
 
#34
#34
This team isn't average. And the wheels aren't falling off of anything. This team is going to do great things. I promise you that. But it isn't going to start with the Head coach or any of the assistants, or any amount of people we have in the stands, or what people write about this team, or what their friends are saying. This team has all the tools to win the national title this year. And yes we have a coach that could take us all the way there. This all has to start in the heart and soul of one of the leaders on this team. Which right now, no one knows who that is. Last year Chism took this team on his back after the New Years thing. Someone is going to have to step up like that and make the others on this team believe that we can beat any opponent on any night in any gym. Until that happens, and I haven't seen that yet, this team isn't going to be able to take Tenn. mens BB to the next level.
 
#35
#35
kiddiedoc said:
If you think that a last second win against Belmont signals a "righting" of our program, then good for you. I posted when there were 37 seconds left on the clock, and Belmont went up shortly after.

Point is: 2 weeks ago, people were talking about a possible Final Four caliber team, with huge wins over Villanova and Pitt. Now, we look like an NIT team. OK, I'll give you that Oakland and USC aren't patsies, but what do you think a top-5 team would do with our last 4 game stretch?
Put Pitt in an empty gym against them, and predict the final point spread. I think my 80-point margin is dang close.

Anyone who doesn't accept that there is a big, big problem right now, and maybe can't
see the elephant in the corner, is blind to the current state of affairs.
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What elephant dude? All I see is Billy C and his cousin going at it.
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#36
#36
The effort in this 4 game stretch isn't acceptable. Period. Does that mean they can't correct it? No. Does it mean the will correct it? No. They have it in them to do it. Will they? I hope. You do too. All's not lost and All's not well.
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#37
#37
Fingers said:
Most probably didn't predict this team to beat Villanova or Pitt. In reality, Tennessee's record is only one game worse than most expectated. Those two wins skewed everyone's perspective.
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Those games aren't equal. You can't say we beat LSU so its ok we lost to KY (football reference) Google RPI.
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#38
#38
utfantilidie said:
Last nights game was like a loss. You lose to Belmont that's totally embarrassing. Perhaps we played over our heads a few games and now we have sunk back to reality. Just an average team.
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The most generic excuse I can give is that they "thought they'd made it" and got away from the process and effort that got them there. (A little DD'ish, I know). It happens to lots of teams on all levels. Especially those who aren't used to the success.
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#39
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Orangekush423 said:
The most generic excuse I can give is that they "thought they'd made it" and got away from the process and effort that got them there. (A little DD'ish, I know). It happens to lots of teams on all levels. Especially those who aren't used to the success.
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Please tell me they're not looking for rommel. That would suck.
 
#40
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Orangekush423 said:
Those games aren't equal. You can't say we beat LSU so its ok we lost to KY (football reference) Google RPI.
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Didn't say the games are equal. I said the record isn't far from what most people likely predicted to this point.
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#41
#41
Orangekush423 said:
The most generic excuse I can give is that they "thought they'd made it" and got away from the process and effort that got them there. (A little DD'ish, I know). It happens to lots of teams on all levels. Especially those who aren't used to the success.
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I concur.
 
#42
#42
Fingers said:
Didn't say the games are equal. I said the record isn't far from what most people likely predicted to this point.
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And I'm saying 8-3 with losses to Pitt and Nova and USC is a hell of a lot better than 8-3 with losses to Oakl,UNCC, and Usc.
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#43
#43
Orangekush423 said:
And I'm saying 8-3 with losses to Pitt and Nova and USC is a hell of a lot better than 8-3 with losses to Oakl,UNCC, and Usc.
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OTOH, 8-3 with road/neutral wins over Pitt and Villanova is better than 8-3 with home wins over USC and Oakland.

In fact, if we had done it the expected way, our tournament resume card would be pretty much vanilla: they beat who they were supposed to, but didn't get any quality wins.

This way, under quality wins it will say "Pitt, neutral; Villanova, neutral."

Probably better in the long run.
 
#44
#44
Yankee_Vol said:
FT shooting is bad....defense has been terrible.....all starts with the HC....just sayin'
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For some reason it seems like on this board there are many that think all bad things start from a coach but good things come from a roster full of talent. Funny how that works.:crazy:
 
#45
#45
kiddiedoc said:
If you think that a last second win against Belmont signals a "righting" of our program, then good for you. I posted when there were 37 seconds left on the clock, and Belmont went up shortly after.

Point is: 2 weeks ago, people were talking about a possible Final Four caliber team, with huge wins over Villanova and Pitt. Now, we look like an NIT team. OK, I'll give you that Oakland and USC aren't patsies, but what do you think a top-5 team would do with our last 4 game stretch?

Put Pitt in an empty gym against them, and predict the final point spread. I think my 80-point margin is dang close.

Anyone who doesn't accept that there is a big, big problem right now, and maybe can't see the elephant in the corner, is blind to the current state of affairs.
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I never said the program was righted, and I certainly understand that there are problems on this team. My comment was made in good fun. RELAX and have a Merry Christmas. :peace2:
 
#46
#46
StepCross said:
OTOH, 8-3 with road/neutral wins over Pitt and Villanova is better than 8-3 with home wins over USC and Oakland.

In fact, if we had done it the expected way, our tournament resume card would be pretty much vanilla: they beat who they were supposed to, but didn't get any quality wins.

This way, under quality wins it will say "Pitt, neutral; Villanova, neutral."

Probably better in the long run.
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No argument there. I thought this while typing my other point, yet continued..... The difference is likely marginal.
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#47
#47
Then there's the "what does it show us ab our team" factor. I'd argue the 11 game record that was more likely would be a more encouraging sign than the roller coaster that has been? Thoughts?
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#48
#48
Orangekush423 said:
Then there's the "what does it show us ab our team" factor. I'd argue the 11 game record that was more likely would be a more encouraging sign than the roller coaster that has been? Thoughts?
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No, I'd rather have this one as a fan. We've had the "really good team but limited ceiling" thing before. I want to try the "roller coaster team but chance to be great" thing.
 
#49
#49
misplacedfan#1 said:
This team isn't average. And the wheels aren't falling off of anything. This team is going to do great things. I promise you that. But it isn't going to start with the Head coach or any of the assistants, or any amount of people we have in the stands, or what people write about this team, or what their friends are saying. This team has all the tools to win the national title this year. And yes we have a coach that could take us all the way there. This all has to start in the heart and soul of one of the leaders on this team. Which right now, no one knows who that is. Last year Chism took this team on his back after the New Years thing. Someone is going to have to step up like that and make the others on this team believe that we can beat any opponent on any night in any gym. Until that happens, and I haven't seen that yet, this team isn't going to be able to take Tenn. mens BB to the next level.
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I don't think a Christmas miracle is too much to ask for every 2000 years or so.
 
#50
#50
I do't think that it will take a miracle. I have seen this happen before. It's really simple actually. All you have to do is make your team believe. I know this team can do it. I can't wait until Wed. GO VOLS!!!!
 
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