When did vulgar UT shirts become a thing?

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Notorious B.E.N said:
I saw a guy either on or behind the stage during the trophy presentation with a F*** Bama shirt on. Not Buck Fama but the other way.
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Well this is really the issue isn't it. An entire generation basically made saying "Buck Fama" okay and acceptable. It's really actually painfully stupid to read and hear someone say out loud, and yet every year "Hey, man. Buck Fama". So that was okay, even witty to some of the locals who have no wit. But now you fix those first two letters and it's "Hey, wait a minute, what happened? Where's the decency?"

Novel idea, what if we didn't make use of either?
 
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When my kids were in middle school, I had to put my foot down on use of "N". They didn't get it. It was part of the culture. Their friends (all shades of brown), the music they listened to, the movies they went to used that word liberally.

Same with F. It's part of the culture (Rogan, locker room, gyms, line at grocery store).

You won't hear from my lips (or my children when I'm around).
 
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Society has changed to a different level overt the last 20 yrs. I used to use profanity all the time as a teen and in my early 20’s. I never used profanity around my family or any elders.

I had a similar conversation with my son the summer of 2021 before he left for college at UT. He said that his friends alway cuss in front of their parents. I heard it first hand when a son/mother were talking and the son was using foul language.

Times are different.
 
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I've been cussed out BEFORE the game at Legion Field and Bryant Denny in 95, 03, and 05. I was hit in the head with a pair of binoculars by an old man and told to "Sit the F down" at Jordan Hare in 98 because I stood up and cheered following our goal line stand. His wife then called me an Orange F-slur and told me to GTFO of the home section. Screamed it in my face. LSU fans cussed us like dogs and even tried to pick a fight RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE COPS leaving the stadium the night the Barn Burned in '96.

The first time I ever saw a Buck Fama shirt was in Auburn in the 80s. War Damn Eagle is their war cry. They used to sell shirts with that printed on them at the AU Campus Bookstore.

Bammers been singing Rammer Jammer as long as I can remember, EVEN THE KIDS SING IT. They're encouraged to!

This ain't nothin knew yall. They've been using these words for decades.
 
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We have raised several generations of people under accelerated circumstances - the internet exposes them to everything in human existence long before they reach high school. The window to instill values in young people is much smaller today than it was thirty years ago. Add a crumbling sense of shared values, and the rejection of "expectations" from a society that offers them seemingly less promise than those who came before, and you get people primed to display and act out in any way that creates attention or upsets expectations. It's a rejection of order, conscious or subconscious.

Sprinkle in people who want to make a buck (and plenty of people want to make a buck), and you get open vulgarity and foul / sexual display for sale. It's been normalized.
 
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utvolpj said:
Just something I noticed at the orange bowl was a lot of fans wearing shirts emblazoned with an f-bomb on the front. This was easily seen in crowd shots as well when I rewatched the broadcast.



Maybe it's been going on for a while and I didn't notice. Maybe it took the really drunk lady in front of us screaming for my kids to read her shirt. Maybe I'm just old and need to buy one too be cool again. Idk
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Why is the f word a bad thing? Who gets to decide? Why did "they" decide that word was bad? Why can people in polite soceity say "That freaking Butch Jones" but not "That effing Butch Jones"?

I have always been curious about things like this.
 
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GetYouSomeofThat said:
Why is the f word a bad thing? Who gets to decide? Why did "they" decide that word was bad? Why can people in polite soceity say "That freaking Butch Jones" but not "That effing Butch Jones"?

I have always been curious about things like this.
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I believe it's culturally accepted to curse when referring to Butch Jones.
 
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utvolpj said:
Using the words wasn't the point as I've used enough for 2 people in the past decade of UT football. Putting them on UT branded shirts was more the question
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Same. I assume shirts like those are everywhere since Ive seen them among other fanbases for a long time. That was my point.
 
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tomq_123 said:
You should listen to my 14 year old's Spotify playlists. My wife and I are constantly amazed on what is said in some of these "songs" and my daughter routinely lets some of these words slip. Obviously when I was a teen it seemed cool to cuss, but there were words (f-word, c-word, b-word, etc..) that we just didn't say especially in front of adults (our parents or friends parents). This is just another example of how the entertainment industry is trying to subvert societal norms and indoctrinate our children. jmo
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Try 30 and 40 something moms singing WAP at a neighborhood get together.. I was like what? That’s gross and y’all look like idiots lol.. I don’t tend to look at people’s T shirts much, keep in mind bowl game fans are different from Neyland fans lol
 
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utvolpj said:
Using the words wasn't the point as I've used enough for 2 people in the past decade of UT football. Putting them on UT branded shirts was more the question
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I would hope UT is not allowing on any of their "licensed" products. I'd be shocked if so.

Im not sure many entities try to control knock-off crap made by small shops. I would be interested to know how that works. Has UT ever sued to protect the brand?
 
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I (think) remember wearing an “ABORT THE IRISH” T-Shirt to a game in Neyland vs The Golden Domers back on like 1979…so, it AIN’T New.
 
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Bowl fans tend to be a little more wild, just an observation 😂 … There are Tennessee fans all across the country and that was some folks only chance to go… remember Santa Vol one year? Lol
 
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GetYouSomeofThat said:
Why is the f word a bad thing? Who gets to decide? Why did "they" decide that word was bad? Why can people in polite soceity say "That freaking Butch Jones" but not "That effing Butch Jones"?

I have always been curious about things like this.
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Good question and I've wondered the same.
 
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TAF said:
I (think) remember wearing an “ABORT THE IRISH” T-Shirt to a game in Neyland vs The Golden Domers back on like 1979…so, it AIN’T New.
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oh Lawd… we had the Buck Fama T shirts in the 90s but nobody would have dared wearing one saying the F bomb 😂 Times have changed
 
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GetYouSomeofThat said:
Why is the f word a bad thing? Who gets to decide? Why did "they" decide that word was bad? Why can people in polite soceity say "That freaking Butch Jones" but not "That effing Butch Jones"?

I have always been curious about things like this.
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F word is definitely not polite, as are several other words, but society has been shot to sh!t at this point, so may as well
 
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utvolpj said:
You saw actual shirts? Buck Fama is different than F*** Bama
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I guess it is. Maybe little kids dont get it, but bigger kids catch on quick.

War Damn Eagle has been on shirts as long as I remember, so probably around 88 or so. I used to go to games with my neighbors, both Auburn and Bama. I have clear memories of snickering about that as a kid. I also saw Brett Favre beat them in Jordan Hare in 90. Both are equally ingrained in my memory.
 
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dobre_shunka said:
Then there was this shown on national TV this past weekend.
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That’s actually funny
 
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