? When we hired Pruitt in 2017

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BigOrangeMojo said:
Just a reminder, the best option of Fulmer's 3 choices was a guy who jerked off on a call to a rape survivor and who won more than 5 ganes once in 5 years.

The second best choice went 1-31 in conference play.....

We chose the guy who did more damage than those 2....
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Ouch.. the reality of the statement hurts. But no lies were told.
 
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i still cannot understand why, when there are no good options (i.e. after kiffin left or butch was fired) why you just dont go the interim route and even if you lose one year, but get the hire right, you are better off than just hiring some goober and spending four years setting your program back before you fire the guy you knew after year one was not going to make it.
 
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Rocky Top T said:
I've never been high on Fulmer, I know many worship him.
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He won what is almost certainly going to be the only national championship any of us ever see the Vols win in football. Some people go nuts with praise when other coaches have achieved what was considered a down year for Fulmer. If you were born after New Year’s Day of 1953, he is the best Tennessee football coach of your lifetime. He was flawed and had faults for sure, but he was better than whatever Tennessee coach you are high on, aside from Neyland.
 
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Tin Man said:
Um, Butch Jones wanted the job. He believed that Tennessee was a career destination gig, even with public administration in-fighting, Hamilton as AD, and Kiffin as the coach who walked away after a year. We all saw how that turned out.

UT needed some changes up top before football was ever going to be righted. Donde Plowman got Danny White got Josh Heupel.
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Had Peyton not reached out to Cutcliff, none of this would have taken place. I can’t remember who reached out to Peyton in the first place. Was it Boyd?
 
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tnvolfan16 said:
i still cannot understand why, when there are no good options (i.e. after kiffin left or butch was fired) why you just dont go the interim route and even if you lose one year, but get the hire right, you are better off than just hiring some goober and spending four years setting your program back before you fire the guy you knew after year one was not going to make it.
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Same reason they didn’t give Fulmer a sabbatical.
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
Just a reminder, the best option of Fulmer's 3 choices was a guy who jerked off on a call to a rape survivor and who won more than 5 ganes once in 5 years.

The second best choice went 1-31 in conference play.....

We chose the guy who did more damage than those 2....
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I mean there was only coach in America who was publicly lobbying for the job who was lightyears better than any candidate that Fulmer could find....
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
That’s easy to say now but back then you have to think about it. We were a dumpster fire. Just went 0-8 in the SEC. And honestly, hiring Pruitt wasn’t a terrible choice at the time. The thought was maybe he would be like Kirby Smart.

Yes the Pruitt hire ended up a disaster. But seriously at that point, how many head coaches would have wanted the job?
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Out of all the coaches who would say yes to that job, we didn't actually interview the clear and away best coach because of hurt feelings. While Pruitt was a disaster, it brought on the new guard with Donde and Danny and led to Heupel.
 
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HoleInTheRoof said:
I was full fledged bought into Grumors but the homer in me had me convinced Pruitt was gonna be an elite coach here.

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I was willing to give him a chance but never felt 100% great about it. Sure , Kirby was doing well at uga, but had started from a better baseline, had a lot more time with Saban and defintely more to do with Saban's success, and was a big uga homer. Pruitt had moved around a lot to three different talent rich situations and benefited from what had been before, had never really been anywhere long enough to put his stamp on it, didn't inherit a great situation from Jones, and worse, was a huge bamer homer.

I held my nose and hoped for the best...thought he would be slight improvement over Butch. But. Somehow. Was worse. 😡🤪🤣
 
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LegionnaireOfTheMiserable said:
He won what is almost certainly going to be the only national championship any of us ever see the Vols win in football. Some people go nuts with praise when other coaches have achieved what was considered a down year for Fulmer. If you were born after New Year’s Day of 1953, he is the best Tennessee football coach of your lifetime. He was flawed and had faults for sure, but he was better than whatever Tennessee coach you are high on, aside from Neyland.
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You can like him all you want, I don't care much for him.
 
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volbound1700 said:
Steele would have been a better hire the Pruitt... granted, I am saying that in hind sight.

I remember being underwhelmed by the hire but I gave Fulmer a benefit of the doubt. Pruitt made comments about needing to improve play in the trenches and I liked his comments to start off with. Boy was it all fool's gold.
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Pruitt is just one of those guys that probably understands how to coach football but doesn’t understand how to be a head coach. It was pretty obvious in hindsight he had zero idea on the difference of being just a football coach and being the “ceo” of a program.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
I mean there was only coach in America who was publicly lobbying for the job who was lightyears better than any candidate that Fulmer could find....
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Nothing is sadder in life than a man whose wife comes homes knocked up by another man and she doesn't even know which one of the hundred others was responsible. That poor sap then mourning her loss and wishing she would come back to him as he doesn't think he can do any better in life.

About the same mentality of those who cheered for a Joey Freshwater return.
 
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LegionnaireOfTheMiserable said:
He won what is almost certainly going to be the only national championship any of us ever see the Vols win in football. Some people go nuts with praise when other coaches have achieved what was considered a down year for Fulmer. If you were born after New Year’s Day of 1953, he is the best Tennessee football coach of your lifetime. He was flawed and had faults for sure, but he was better than whatever Tennessee coach you are high on, aside from Neyland.
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Agree with the above but he tarnished his reputation as he should have retired on his terms 2 yrs prior and never should have been the AD.
 
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Rocky Top T said:
I like Heupel and Rick Barnes, love Tony V and Kim Caldwell. Also liked Majors, Bowden Wyatt, Doug Dickey. Before my time, but coach Neyland was the man!
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It’s way too early to mention Kim Caldwell in the same breath as Fulmer. Majors, Wyatt, and Dickey all fell short of what Fulmer did. Dickey even threw a game here. Heupel has done nothing compared to what Fulmer did.
 
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stolitonic said:
Nothing is sadder in life than a man whose wife comes homes knocked up by another man and she doesn't even know which one of the hundred others was responsible. That poor sap then mourning her loss and wishing she would come back to him as he doesn't think he can do any better in life.

About the same mentality of those who cheered for a Joey Freshwater return.
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That is a lot of words to say for you avoid acknowledging that the one coach publicly lobbying for the job after Schiano sunday was indeed lightyears better than the finalists we chose.....

I find it hilarious there are people who were okay with the losses to the likes of Georgia State and BYU because of pride....
 
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LegionnaireOfTheMiserable said:
It’s way too early to mention Kim Caldwell in the same breath as Fulmer. Majors, Wyatt, and Dickey all fell short of what Fulmer did. Dickey even threw a game here. Heupel has done nothing compared to what Fulmer did.
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You ask who I liked. By the way, Fulmer didn't do much without Cutcliffe. Also, the SEC is much stronger now than when Fulmer was here. Spurrier owned him.
 
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