Which is more popular?

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#27
milohimself said:
Tu does not compete with the cowboys in texas. longhorn football is a big deal but not in the same league
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High school football is bigger than both actually.

It's actually closer than you think (I lived in Texas for a couple years), but because there are so many other schools in the state, that's why the Cowboys are bigger. You just have so many other decent college football teams (and they basically all hate TU) that TU isn't more popular.
 
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zjcvols said:
High school football is bigger than both actually.

It's actually closer than you think (I lived in Texas for a couple years), but because there are so many other schools in the state, that's why the Cowboys are bigger. You just have so many other decent college football teams (and they basically all hate TU) that TU isn't more popular.
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Sort of. I mean you had the Oilers but they weren't *that* big of a deal

I'm from Texas myself, I know that football in general is a big deal, but the cowboys are still king for just about all of the state.
 
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#29
For me it's college, and it isn't even close. When the NFL had their lockout a couple of years ago I really didn't care if they got the season started or not.
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#30
#30
the NFL is the most popular sport/league in country and #2 is not even close...I remember being amazed that a JAG episode had more viewers than a big UT florida night game... possible cfb might be marginally more popular in south but overall no contest w country as a whole.
 
#31
#31
College football reigns supreme in the South because there are so many different teams, and quality ones to boot. A Tennessee resident is more than likely going to be a Tennessee fan, but there are still those who'll support Vanderbilt, Memphis, MTSU and even Alabama/Georgia/whatnot. This allows for great in-state rivalries and myriad regional rivalries, whereas a Titans fan isn't overly concerned with mocking their friend from North Carolina for the Panthers' failings.

In the rest of the country, the opposite is true. California likes college football plenty but cares far more about pro teams, and places like Illinois, Michigan and Ohio love their schools... but also not nearly as much as the Bears/Lions/Bengals. In New England and the tri-state, there really aren't any football schools worth mentioning while people are rabid about the Patriots and Giants. The South's fervency regarding college football really isn't matched anywhere, it's just that the rest of the country is more highly populated so that influences overall popularity within America.
 
#32
#32
If I could only go to one, I'd rather see a UK game than a Titans game. I love the Titans but there is something about the tailgate, marching band, and overall game atmosphere that makes it more fun for me at a college game.
 
#33
#33
College football is more instilled in the fabric of life IMO....my father raised me a VOLS fan and I think that is pretty typical of most college fans. I like pro-football, but the game-day experience, tradition and dedication is not there. I truly believe fantasy football has set pro-football to another level....I keep track of every team and all MY players.
 
#35
#35
College is definitely more popular. More people go to the games, and it's just a total different atmosphere from an NFL game.
 
#36
#36
In college towns college football. Rest of world follows NFL. Even those games in London show that. Biggest indicator yet though is what networks including Direct TV are willing to pay for an NFL contract to show games. Dwarfs college contracts.
 
#37
#37
If you take an average tailgate at an SEC school I bet it's more of a party than the average NFL tailgate. I know they get it going in Green Bay but the overall gameday experience is better at every single college game I've been to. I love titans games but they're not the same.
 
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#39
College by far , you're not considering the dilution . 116 teams to 32 . Filling up 100,000 seat stadiums. If there were only 32 college teams the tickets would be 6,000 $ apiece. Also all the small colleges who bring in 5 to 10 k people per game. The tv contracts are exorbitant in the nfl because it is a monopoly. Yet the college tv contracts are pretty large, even with multiple conferences competing for the one day ( mainly) broadcast window. If the big ten demanded nfl prices the network would just broadcast a PAC 12 game. You don't have that leverage with the nfl.
 
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StoVol said:
College by far , you're not considering the dilution . 116 teams to 32 . Filling up 100,000 seat stadiums. If there were only 32 college teams the tickets would be 6,000 $ apiece. Also all the small colleges who bring in 5 to 10 k people per game. The tv contracts are exorbitant in the nfl because it is a monopoly. Yet the college tv contracts are pretty large, even with multiple conferences competing for the one day ( mainly) broadcast window. If the big ten demanded nfl prices the network would just broadcast a PAC 12 game. You don't have that leverage with the nfl.
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Attendance figures are only a part of the equation anymore, the fact is there are many many MANY more eyeballs on TV sets on Sundays than there are on Saturdays.
 
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milohimself said:
Attendance figures are only a part of the equation anymore, the fact is there are many many MANY more eyeballs on TV sets on Sundays than there are on Saturdays.
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4 million of the eyes on Saturdays are at the actual games. 32 x 65,000 is about a third of Saturday butt in the seat viewers. There is no other way to watch the nfl except for tv for the majority. So yes, they are only part of the equation I agree

17.1 mil nfl . 43.8 mil cfb comparing fbs and fcs, not including all the small colleges with anywhere from 100 to a few thousand, who's games will never be televised so tv viewers can only be a part of the equation since most college games aren't televised
 
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#43
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NFL is more popular because of the better athletes and stability. College is way more of a passionate sport. College is the better sport imo.
 
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StoVol said:
10 million of the eyes on Saturdays are at the actual games. 32 x 65,000 is about 20% of Saturday butt in the seat viewers. There is no other way to watch the nfl except for tv for the majority. So yes, they are only part of the equation I agree
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The average college football crowd on Saturday is about 45,000. Assuming 10 teams have bye weeks on any given week, that means there are 55 different games being played. 55 x 45,000 leaves us just shy of 2.5 million people attending college football games a week, which is a far cry from 10 million.

Also, the big dogs account for the majority of that number. While Alabama and Notre Dame sell tons of tickets and draw lots of eyes on the television set, very few people are watching New Mexico St. take on the Idaho Vandals. In contrast, the NFL averages about 65,000 fans per game over the duration of a 17-week NFL season. There are far fewer teams, yes, but that also means that those who can't get a desirable ticket due to popularity are watching the games on their local network. There's no way more people are watching NCAA football than NFL.
 
#45
#45
I looked up the total numbers , and edited it based on 12 game season . 44 million by 12. If it were so easily extrapolated then you'd have 116 nfl teams like college. There is a reason there is no nfl team in little rock or Oxford. Yet cfb sustains itself in much smaller markets. Their tv schedule is spread out over a greater time span on Saturdays as well. You have two options on sun at twelve and only one in the second game in many markets. So it would not surprise any rational thinker that viewer numbers would increase with only two options. That is not the case in college football where it is spread all over this nation, not just in the big cities with their corresponding large tv markets. If cfb only televised on two networks showing a total of four teams the viewing numbers would be astronomical. You'd also have a lot of pissed fans but you get the point. Nfl 17 million attendance . College 44 in two divisions. They cannot be compared by viewership solely, nor attendance. But factor in millions in new York with only two options on sun for instance, it is no surprise to have large tv viewership. What is surprising is the market forces relative to stadium size. Why no 120,000 seat nfl stadiums I wonder? It would be much easier to fill with thousands living closer to the stadiums, unlike college. A tv contract and hostage tv viewers do not measure true popularity. If we could test cfb with just two games I might change my tune, but here in America I think cfb would win.
 
#46
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StoVol said:
4 million of the eyes on Saturdays are at the actual games. 32 x 65,000 is about a third of Saturday butt in the seat viewers. There is no other way to watch the nfl except for tv for the majority. So yes, they are only part of the equation I agree

17.1 mil nfl . 43.8 mil cfb comparing fbs and fcs, not including all the small colleges with anywhere from 100 to a few thousand, who's games will never be televised so tv viewers can only be a part of the equation since most college games aren't televised
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Cut that number in half. There are 32 teams, but at most there are 16 games on a given weekend.
 
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chatt-townVOL said:
Watching the ESPN 30 for 30 special and the comment was made "this was during a time, and it's hard to explain this to people today, but this was during a time when college football was more popular than pro football..... and it was better".


I would argue that college football is very much the more dominant force in football overall (especially for me). What do yall think? Which is more popular?
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better how?
 
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