Which QB do we want?

#51
#51
Chase Rettig without a doubt, he has done what it takes to get his name out there and prove himself at camps,schools,etc... Not saying i dont want JS, because i think he will be successful, but Rettig seems like a leader and thats exactly what Tennessee needs!
 
#58
#58
I like the idea of Lamaison. He has already proved he can play at a higher level than any of these high school kids. Any idea why he was't recruited out of high school? I think he would do just fine until we get a stud 2011.
 
#59
#59
VolsByNature said:
Tajh Boyd
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+1. I was stoked about his commitment, and Kiffin's effort to run him off was like taking the Christmas present out of a kids hands and throwing it in the trash.
Hope he can make up for it with a big haul this year
 
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#60
#60
TENNaciousUTfan said:
+1. I was stoked about his commitment, and Kiffin's effort to run him off was like taking the Christmas present out of a kids hands and throwing it in the trash.
Hope he can make up for it with a big haul this year
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He has nothing to make up for. He basically returned a present that would not of functioned. The present would have made you cry when it broke in the first week. I cannot wait for one of these guys to commit so no one mentions Boyd again. Guy is not a pro-style QB. He never will be.
 
#62
#62
orange_fan_inVa said:
we sure have offers to alot of guys people wouldnt call pro style QB's
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A pro-style QB is code for a guy who can do it all. He may be able to run maybe not. If he cannot move then he better have a quick release and excellent pocket presence. He has to be able to learn a playbook, audible at the line, read Ds-thus he must know the Defense paybook as well. I guy who is going to be a good Pro-style QB is likely to have a high IQ and for a fans perspetive the SAT and ACT are the best ways we can judge.

Just cuz a guy runs does not exclude him from being pro-style. Pro-style is a mix of everything.

A guy who makes an 18 on the ACT for example, unless facing serious hardship in his education,-like coming from another country where there are no schools-is not a pro-style QB. In the end, if you are counting on a guy like this you better hope he is a far superior athlete that can do things with his legs that make it unnecessary for him to make proper reads or be very accurate. Vince Young is an example of this. Boyd to me does not seem like a Vince Young athlete and will do decent in the ACC but would of been beated down weakly as a QB in the SEC. Much like Young was in the NFL. JMO :hi:
 
#64
#64
I think the coaching staff wants Scroggins because he fits the system that Kiffin wants to run. SC offering him is an indication of that. I personally like what I have seen from Rettig. He is very accurate, has quick feet, and can throw precise passes on the run to either side. I feel he will commit if Scroggins does not. I think we sign Rettig and a JUCO qb as well. If Rettig goes to BC, look for Brunetti to reconsider the vols.
 
#65
#65
Scroggins, Rettig, Lamiason, and Newton

Nick Stephens in 2010. I'd like to see him get a lot of PT this fall to get ready for next season. I'll be fine if JC plays so well that I don't get my wish. That would indicate that this coming season isn't a total waste.

Of the 4 QB's above, I listed Newton last as I want him on the roster as a backup QB, but I want him to start as a WR. That's his best NFL position, imo. Also, Newton is the most extraordinary athlete of the four. If he moves out, he'd be the most likely to succeed in the League.
 
#66
#66
we may be overlooking one key fact. Our coaches may also be looking at these kids "football IQ's". Example: can these kids read the defenses they are seeing, did they read the defenses well at the camps? To me, that makes alot more sense when evaluating a QB instead of just how strong his arm is.
 
#68
#68
Oldvol75 said:
we may be overlooking one key fact. Our coaches may also be looking at these kids "football IQ's". Example: can these kids read the defenses they are seeing, did they read the defenses well at the camps? To me, that makes alot more sense when evaluating a QB instead of just how strong his arm is.
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That's a good point. They also have a lot more film and personal interaction to use in evaluating that, beyond having more skill in the first place.

It would be one great reason to support why someone as knowledgable as LWS just doesn't try to evalute them. Still, most of this is really just a way to pass time in the off season for most here, I think. :dunno:
 
#70
#70
Jewbaccah said:
A pro-style QB is code for a guy who can do it all. He may be able to run maybe not. If he cannot move then he better have a quick release and excellent pocket presence. He has to be able to learn a playbook, audible at the line, read Ds-thus he must know the Defense paybook as well. I guy who is going to be a good Pro-style QB is likely to have a high IQ and for a fans perspetive the SAT and ACT are the best ways we can judge.

Just cuz a guy runs does not exclude him from being pro-style. Pro-style is a mix of everything.

A guy who makes an 18 on the ACT for example, unless facing serious hardship in his education,-like coming from another country where there are no schools-is not a pro-style QB. In the end, if you are counting on a guy like this you better hope he is a far superior athlete that can do things with his legs that make it unnecessary for him to make proper reads or be very accurate. Vince Young is an example of this. Boyd to me does not seem like a Vince Young athlete and will do decent in the ACC but would of been beated down weakly as a QB in the SEC. Much like Young was in the NFL. JMO :hi:
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oh i agree with you i hate the QB labels and have ben quoted as saying so many times, i coach high school QB's so i know first hand how unfair theese labels can be. got a kid transfering in here from texas, who will be considerd by all a "dual threat" guy, but at 14 he has the best tools ive seen come threw this school in its 21 year exestance. but i belive he could be the first D1 quarterback from our school, his dad is the brother in law, to a famous baseball family, who the father had sucess and later managed kc royals and son played several years in cf for the cubs, but im not saying any more. LOL , but his dad really liked me and was thrilled i would be coaching his kid, so i feel validated on that :rock:
 
#72
#72
rettig's ability to scramble and throw lasers while running towards the sideline could be a very valuable trait with this swiss cheese offensive line

but scroggins name carries more weight in the recruiting world. and for a guy like me, who knows that no matter how much film he watches he will never know how to evaluate QBs, thats what gives JS the edge
 
#74
#74
NastyNate said:
No question about it, Scroggins. Don't be led to believe Rettig is better.
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I think Scroggins name will be better for recruiting but Rettig is not bad. His team went 1-9 last season. That is why he is being overlooked. I think his stock will rise this year but I would like to see Scroggins commit and start recruiting for UT.
 
#75
#75
Volsfan4243 said:
I think Scroggins name will be better for recruiting but Rettig is not bad. His team went 1-9 last season. That is why he is being overlooked. I think his stock will rise this year but I would like to see Scroggins commit and start recruiting for UT.
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He'll be a Vol in about two weeks on national television. :rock:
 
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