Which Recruit Starts the Dominoes?

#26
#26
Khalil starts it 7/10. TG will keep enjoying the attention until closer to signing day IMO.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Eventually recruits need to see improvement but not in year 2 of a new regime. I really think this is an overblown narrative on VN. I don't think anyone here could name a time when a team with a consensus top 10 class committed, had multiple players renege in the wake of a bad or disappointing season unless a coaching change was also involved. IF YOU DISAGREE WITH THIS THEN NAME ONE - THE YEAR AND THE TEAM. The elite recruits (which is mostly what we are pursuing under Jones) all have big egos and either think they are capable of making a difference and pay attention to the existing makeup of a team (whether or not that team's underclassmen are more heralded than the veterans). I don't think recruits are as impulsive or reactionary as some here want to believe. They aren't being sold on the 2014 team and won't be surprised to see them losing a lot of games once again. If 2015 recruits wanted a guarantee for immediate success they wouldn't be committed to or considering Tennessee in the first place and if bad teams couldn't recruit well then nobody would ever get any better.
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It's all in how you are recruiting the kid. If last year told us anything its that Butch sets very real expectations with the kids that the first two years were going to be tough in terms of wins and losses but to focus on the other things in the program and signs of improvement. When you are real with the kid then it doesn't become an issue. If you tell them oh we are going to shock the world and you don't then you look like you are full of fluff.

I do feel that we need to make a bowl to avoid heavy negative recruiting pressure and fan negativity. However 6-7 wins with all your ballers being young shows potential for future greatness as the team matures and kids see themselves as the piece that gets us over the hump
 
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PACKERVOL said:
The only problem wih TG is that he says he won't commit until very late in the process. Generally, QB's tend to commit early, and pull others with them. So I will choose KM.
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Might be the LAST domino to fall?
 
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Jake Tate said:
I think we can still get Tim Settle, but I dont know when he plans on committing now.

SO probably, based on this question and the time frame, Kahlil McKenzie
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A few weeks ago Settle had us at the top. Any of you that are more "in the know" hear anything lately? My old neighbor was his HS coach at Stonewall Jackson, but he has always kept pretty quiet about where his players were going.

Settle is a monster, would love to have him in Orange!!!
 
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Sharriscgcs said:
A few weeks ago Settle had us at the top. Any of you that are more "in the know" hear anything lately? My old neighbor was his HS coach at Stonewall Jackson, but he has always kept pretty quiet about where his players were going.

Settle is a monster, would love to have him in Orange!!!
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He moved Clemson to #1 right about the time DJ Jones put UT #1.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Eventually recruits need to see improvement but not in year 2 of a new regime. I really think this is an overblown narrative on VN. I don't think anyone here could name a time when a team with a consensus top 10 class committed, had multiple players renege in the wake of a bad or disappointing season unless a coaching change was also involved. IF YOU DISAGREE WITH THIS THEN NAME ONE - THE YEAR AND THE TEAM. The elite recruits (which is mostly what we are pursuing under Jones) all have big egos and either think they are capable of making a difference and pay attention to the existing makeup of a team (whether or not that team's underclassmen are more heralded than the veterans). I don't think recruits are as impulsive or reactionary as some here want to believe. They aren't being sold on the 2014 team and won't be surprised to see them losing a lot of games once again. If 2015 recruits wanted a guarantee for immediate success they wouldn't be committed to or considering Tennessee in the first place and if bad teams couldn't recruit well then nobody would ever get any better.
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What about Southern Cal 2 years ago? Didn't they have a ton of 5*'s committed and then they slowly started dropping like flies after Kiffin's season started going down hill?

Also, you have to remember the era we're living in now. Kids have no patience! We live in an instant gratification society. I guarantee you if our season turns out to be disasterous (and by that I mean 8 losses or worse) then you can bet some committed recruits are going to start looking elsewhere and some that are considering us will no longer consider us. We have got to show progress from last year and the only way we can show that is to go at minimum, 6-6 and make bowl.
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
What about Southern Cal 2 years ago? Didn't they have a ton of 5*'s committed and then they slowly started dropping like flies after Kiffin's season started going down hill?

Also, you have to remember the era we're living in now. Kids have no patience! We live in an instant gratification society. I guarantee you if our season turns out to be disasterous (and by that I mean 8 losses or worse) then you can bet some committed recruits are going to start looking elsewhere and some that are considering us will no longer consider us. We have got to show progress from last year and the only way we can show that is to go at minimum, 6-6 and make bowl.
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But the writing was on the wall. Kitten was a lame duck and the players could see it. The post you replied to mentioned, unless there was a coaching change involved. Kitten did survive till the start of last season but did not make it through the whole year even. Those kids had no idea who the next coach would be, or how they would fit into that coaches schemes. It was only logical that the jumped of the sinking ship the USS Kitten.
 
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#36
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McKenzie will start the DL to commit, when the other big time DTs recruits see him commit 2 or 3 will follow.
 
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Cosmo said:
With Preston Williams already committed, what other recruit could start the biggest domino effect? Torrance Gibson, Kahlil McKenzie, or anyone else?

I would say TG just because I think KM is already on board. Either one could get it going, but I think TG could have the bigger effect.
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I would say Kahlil McKenzie and I believe we have a chance at two or three more big time D-line guys. Gibson will be a good pick up also. But getting a big time defense at UT will win us championships. Butch knows what he is doing. He is building us for the long term. It will not be long we will be the top team in the SEC. And if we are the top team in the SEC we will be the top team in the nation.
 
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Sharriscgcs said:
A few weeks ago Settle had us at the top. Any of you that are more "in the know" hear anything lately? My old neighbor was his HS coach at Stonewall Jackson, but he has always kept pretty quiet about where his players were going.

Settle is a monster, would love to have him in Orange!!!
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McKenzie and Settle in orange bring back memories of Hanesworth and Henderson. :rock:
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Eventually recruits need to see improvement but not in year 2 of a new regime. I really think this is an overblown narrative on VN. I don't think anyone here could name a time when a team with a consensus top 10 class committed, had multiple players renege in the wake of a bad or disappointing season unless a coaching change was also involved. IF YOU DISAGREE WITH THIS THEN NAME ONE - THE YEAR AND THE TEAM. The elite recruits (which is mostly what we are pursuing under Jones) all have big egos and either think they are capable of making a difference and pay attention to the existing makeup of a team (whether or not that team's underclassmen are more heralded than the veterans). I don't think recruits are as impulsive or reactionary as some here want to believe. They aren't being sold on the 2014 team and won't be surprised to see them losing a lot of games once again. If 2015 recruits wanted a guarantee for immediate success they wouldn't be committed to or considering Tennessee in the first place and if bad teams couldn't recruit well then nobody would ever get any better.
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Michigan lost damien harris and george campbell, both 5 star players this cycle, plus some others too i believe after a dissapointing season last year and i dont recall any implications of hoke being fired...
 
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Ertel said:
Michigan lost damien harris and george campbell, both 5 star players this cycle, plus some others too i believe after a dissapointing season last year and i dont recall any implications of hoke being fired...
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Those are both 2015 players so that's not the same thing as a player decommitting the season of his NSD. Campbell's decommitment in particular can be chalked up to a recruit who pulled the trigger too soon...There are many reasons why a recruit from Florida would have second thoughts about playing in Michigan. I doubt their season over a year before he signs is high on the list (but you would have to ask him).
 
#41
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This weekend should start things off for the next few weeks. Quarte Sapp and Kamara will probably pull the trigger. Then I could see Ordway also committing.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Those are both 2015 players so that's not the same thing as a player decommitting the season of his NSD. Campbell's decommitment in particular can be chalked up to a recruit who pulled the trigger too soon...There are many reasons why a recruit from Florida would have second thoughts about playing in Michigan. I doubt their season over a year before he signs is high on the list (but you would have to ask him).
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Fair enough.
 
#43
#43
There's a lot of people on here thinks that we need Gibson for this class to have a good dual threat qb. But I'm really excited about Jauan Jennings in this class. I think he will end up being the big surprise in this class. If we don't get Gibson I'm not to worried because I think Jennings can fill the shoes at the QB position
 
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