Who can defend Sanders today?

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vol stuck in irishcountry

vol stuck in irishcountry

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If after all the crappy calls he makes as an OC week in and week out, how in the world can anyone defend him?

This UGA defense is not that solid, we are making them look great with inept play calling. Once again so predictable.

Kids come to UT to win, what they get is offensive leadership that does not know how to utilize them.

For pete's sake, my middle school team could stop UT the way the playcalling has been once again today.

I just nailed my 11th consecutive play call prediction.

Now, if I can do it as a little middle school football coach, how big of a smile do you think the DC of UGA has?

Anyone that defends Sanders obviously does not know 2 cents about
the game of football!
 
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No one, he should be gone, fulmer too! The mentality here at tennesse is one of underachieving.
 
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I wont go as far to say Fulmer. he is a great recruiter, but needs an OC that knows how to call a college football game.

he needs to take some leadership and make a change. This will be our 2nd loss. Add Bama and ND and we will be no better than 7-4 and headed to the Music City Bowl to play Purdue.

Very disappointing season. At least one head must roll. This is unacceptable at the University of Tennessee.
 
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Enough of the BS. Things must change. Poor play calling and poor coaching. Heads need to roll. Enough! Enough! Enough!
 
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Guys I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but we havent seen nothing yet. You think things are bad this year, wait till next year when we have no defense and have to rebuild. We are losing all but one of our front 7 on defense. Next year is gonna be scary. Scary bad.
 
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Originally posted by vol stuck in irishcountry@Oct 8, 2005 5:56 PM
I wont go as far to say Fulmer.  he is a great recruiter, but needs an OC that knows how to call a college football game.

he needs to take some leadership and make a change.  This will be our 2nd loss.  Add Bama and ND and we will be no better than 7-4 and headed to the Music City Bowl to play Purdue.

Very disappointing season.  At least one head must roll.  This is unacceptable at the University of Tennessee.
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Hey Volstuck, If that happens Lori and I will probably go. Her in her Black and Gold and me in my Orange... LOL
 
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and those who bring up the lsu game.

forget it. that was pure luck. not happening again.
 
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Originally posted by cibai@Oct 8, 2005 5:51 PM
No one, he should be gone, fulmer too! The mentality here at tennesse is one of underachieving.
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That is what UT stands for (Underacheiving Team).
Two main observations:
With our team pinned inside the 5 yard line (during the 4th) I predicted two runs and a desperation pass. Sure enough, Georgia stacked the line for two plays and then set up in pass defense on the third....and stuffed us. Our QB did not even audible out of the run with eight men in the box. That is a sign of poor coaching.
On every punt and kick run back (special teams) we had a block in the back called (except for maybe one or two run backs). That is a sign of poor coaching.
I appreciate the kind of person PF is, but it is time for a change.
 
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A new coach, and I don't care WHO he is, WILL NOT WIN EVERY GAME IN THE SEC!!!!

IT IS IMPOSSIBLE!!!!!
 
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We have wasted a National Championship defense because we have not developed any offensive talent in 6 years. We have not developed any offensive talent in six years.

How in the heck can that happen?
 
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Originally posted by LadyinOrange@Oct 8, 2005 7:43 PM
A new coach, and I don't care WHO he is, WILL NOT WIN EVERY GAME IN THE SEC!!!!

IT IS IMPOSSIBLE!!!!!
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before rs w/ cutliffe. 35 pts a game
after 27 pts a game

they wont win every game but maybe they wont underachieve so much.
 
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before rs w/ cutliffe we also averageed 11 wins a year. it not as much just hte points as the fact that the defense had confidence in the offense and knew they could make a big play at any give time.

now we average 9 wins a year. the defense there is no way has confidense in the offense.
 
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I posted this in another thread, but thought it fit here, as well:

Here's the probelm with that...Fulmer and Sanders are buddies. Sanders runs Fulmer's offense. There is no way Fulmer will get rid of Sanders in favor of revamping his offense. To do so would be saying that he is officially turning the offense and the play calling over to someone other than himself. There are problems on this team, but Sanders isn't totally responsible. I'd start with our offensive line coach, then the receivers coach, then I'd actually hire someone specifically for special teams--no more of this "if we have 5 minutes at the end of practice we'll slap the ball around a bit" crap. Realistically, Fulmer has earned his spot here, but he will have to set loyalty aside and hire some new coaching talent. What many folks are missing here is that if a play is executed correctly, Sanders looks great and the "play calling" for that game was great...when you have the Super Midgets from Vonore out there dropping passes, fumbling the ball, missing blocks, and not getting open, people say we need a new coordinator. The bottom line is that we need coaching changes, but the OC isn't where to start--and Fulmer will go before Sanders does...and that means neither is going anywhere, so it's a moot point.
 
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Originally posted by LadyinOrange@Oct 8, 2005 6:43 PM
A new coach, and I don't care WHO he is, WILL NOT WIN EVERY GAME IN THE SEC!!!!

IT IS IMPOSSIBLE!!!!!
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That is understood. But a new coach might at least implement enough discipline cut down on the penalties. This game would have been easier to stomach (even with a loss) if we played without penalties, and if we could have seen some improvement on offensive play execution (and play calling). At least we could hope for a chance against 'Bama. In our current situation, we can not even make an improvement on the fundamentals.
 
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Originally posted by KnoxKDX@Oct 8, 2005 7:49 PM
I posted this in another thread, but thought it fit here, as well:

Here's the probelm with that...Fulmer and Sanders are buddies. Sanders runs Fulmer's offense. There is no way Fulmer will get rid of Sanders in favor of revamping his offense. To do so would be saying that he is officially turning the offense and the play calling over to someone other than himself. There are problems on this team, but Sanders isn't totally responsible. I'd start with our offensive line coach, then the receivers coach, then I'd actually hire someone specifically for special teams--no more of this "if we have 5 minutes at the end of practice we'll slap the ball around a bit" crap. Realistically, Fulmer has earned his spot here, but he will have to set loyalty aside and hire some new coaching talent. What many folks are missing here is that if a play is executed correctly, Sanders looks great and the "play calling" for that game was great...when you have the Super Midgets from Vonore out there dropping passes, fumbling the ball, missing blocks, and not getting open, people say we need a new coordinator. The bottom line is that we need coaching changes, but the OC isn't where to start--and Fulmer will go before Sanders does...and that means neither is going anywhere, so it's a moot point.
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the oc is w here to start. the play calling is the problem.
 
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Originally posted by KnoxKDX@Oct 8, 2005 6:49 PM
I posted this in another thread, but thought it fit here, as well:

Here's the probelm with that...Fulmer and Sanders are buddies. Sanders runs Fulmer's offense. There is no way Fulmer will get rid of Sanders in favor of revamping his offense. To do so would be saying that he is officially turning the offense and the play calling over to someone other than himself. There are problems on this team, but Sanders isn't totally responsible. I'd start with our offensive line coach, then the receivers coach, then I'd actually hire someone specifically for special teams--no more of this "if we have 5 minutes at the end of practice we'll slap the ball around a bit" crap. Realistically, Fulmer has earned his spot here, but he will have to set loyalty aside and hire some new coaching talent. What many folks are missing here is that if a play is executed correctly, Sanders looks great and the "play calling" for that game was great...when you have the Super Midgets from Vonore out there dropping passes, fumbling the ball, missing blocks, and not getting open, people say we need a new coordinator. The bottom line is that we need coaching changes, but the OC isn't where to start--and Fulmer will go before Sanders does...and that means neither is going anywhere, so it's a moot point.
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That is why a lot of the Volnation is so depressed. Think about this, I heard the same things about Sanders two years ago when GA handed it to us in Neyland.

I believe, however that there will be a change at the end of this year. Afterall, Cutcliffe ran Fulmers offense too. Lets just keep the heat on until something happens.

If they can get rid of Majors, Fulmer cannot continue this downward sprial.
 
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From an outsider's perspective, I have to agree with the first post here. Its not the talent that's the problem, its the predictability that's the problem. Your offense just doesn't offer enough different looks and variety to make a defense stand back. They can afford to take chances against you and if you don't make them pay ...
 
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Originally posted by KnoxKDX@Oct 8, 2005 6:49 PM
I posted this in another thread, but thought it fit here, as well:

Here's the probelm with that...Fulmer and Sanders are buddies. Sanders runs Fulmer's offense. There is no way Fulmer will get rid of Sanders in favor of revamping his offense. To do so would be saying that he is officially turning the offense and the play calling over to someone other than himself. There are problems on this team, but Sanders isn't totally responsible. I'd start with our offensive line coach, then the receivers coach, then I'd actually hire someone specifically for special teams--no more of this "if we have 5 minutes at the end of practice we'll slap the ball around a bit" crap. Realistically, Fulmer has earned his spot here, but he will have to set loyalty aside and hire some new coaching talent. What many folks are missing here is that if a play is executed correctly, Sanders looks great and the "play calling" for that game was great...when you have the Super Midgets from Vonore out there dropping passes, fumbling the ball, missing blocks, and not getting open, people say we need a new coordinator. The bottom line is that we need coaching changes, but the OC isn't where to start--and Fulmer will go before Sanders does...and that means neither is going anywhere, so it's a moot point.
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:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
Lowest offensive output on average since 1964....thats what I call a helluva setback.....So I guess we can suit up Condredge, Larry Sievers, and so on to bring the program up again.....Is Bill Battle available???
 
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now my hail marry suggestion is acutally seeming smart. fire 75 hail mary's a game and we will score 3 of them and put up more points then we have. or just call a smarter game and make it unpredictable. riggs barely got the ball. they were all sitting on the pass.
 
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Originally posted by tvolsfan@Oct 8, 2005 7:55 PM
now my hail marry suggestion is acutally seeming smart. fire 75 hail mary's a game and we will score 3 of them and put up more points then we have. or just call a smarter game and make it unpredictable. riggs barely got the ball. when he did all they had him do is run straight up the gut. havent they seen him take it outside??? on sweeps he is so much better. they were all sitting on the pass.
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Originally posted by lawgator1@Oct 8, 2005 6:54 PM
From an outsider's perspective, I have to agree with the first post here.  Its not the talent that's the problem, its the predictability that's the problem.  Your offense just doesn't offer enough different looks and variety to make a defense stand back.  They can afford to take chances against you and if you don't make them pay ...
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LG the talent is not being developed. Last year with Ainge, I sincerely thought that NEXT YEAR was a time for UT to make a serious run. (Schedule was too darn tough)

But now Ainge as regressed, we could easily be a 7-4 team for the next three years. Our offensive talent level has not kept up with the defense, not because of recruiting, but because technique and personal coaching are far beyond our current staff's expertise.
 
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Simply not realistic. Neither Fulmer nor Sanders are going anywhere at any time soon. They are home grown and home (in)bred. When is the last time TN had any injection of freshness? We ALWAYS hire from within. That's the way it is done...and when is the last time a coach was lured away from TN? Our salary/bonus structure is only part of the package--when is the last time anyone TRIED to get a UT coach (not counting Trooper)?

We could lose 4 more games and it would just be chalked up to an off year with some injuries and problems with the team executing the plays.

Mediocrity reigned at TN for a long time because of the Good Ole Boy system, and it was a cosmic alignment of events that moved Majors out......and "cosmic" is not home and "alignment" is on vacation....no changes at with be forthcoming with the two that are the most culpable....

but changes are ahead....

...Trooper Taylor will go somewhere that values excellence over mediocrity. This is his last year here...mark my words....he will take the ALL the special teams heat.....and decide it is just not worth it.....

The days have come and gone for the Fulmer/Sanders system.....but it will take 3-4 years of consistently poor seasons (4 losses or more) before anything MIGHT happen....MIGHT happen.....look at the consistent slide downward since the NC year.....

Not to be cruel, but as Fulmer's waistline has expanded so has the discipline declined...the statistics are out there, if you look....

Check the following things:

W-L Record
Average Score Per Game
Average Yards Per Offensive Play
Time of Possession
Penalties Against Per Game
Differential W-L record (of opponents)
Victories at Home
Victories over ranked opponents

Aggregate statistics don't lie. TN has been a slide downhill rather consistently since the NC year....it is time for a change before we get to Nebraska's level.....

Don't argue with me...look at the statistics.

 
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Originally posted by Lexvol@Oct 8, 2005 7:59 PM
LG the talent is not being developed.  Last year with Ainge, I sincerely thought that NEXT YEAR was a time for UT to make a serious run. (Schedule was too darn tough)

But now Ainge as regressed, we could easily be a 7-4 team for the next three years.  Our offensive talent level has not kept up with the defense, not because of recruiting, but because technique and personal coaching are far beyond our current staff's expertise.
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ainge is not any worse. coaching is a problem again. they need to fix ainge. he is so good if you guys wathced last year you would know. he is so incredibly talented.
 
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