Who else misses Rodney Garner about now?

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No doubt about it, UGA has benefited tremendously and the Vols have suffered commensurately ever since UGA reclaimed in-state recruiting by hiring Rodney Garner from Tennessee. Who else remembers in the 1990's when we would pretty much cherry pick Georgia? Now there are a lot of rumors flying around that Right and the UGA money people are going to make Trooper Taylor an offer after signing day. I guess we'll all know more about this soon enough.
 
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yeah, that was a bad day....he was great. and i remember thinking when i heard he left, why in the heck didn't they try to best UGA?

Oh well....hopefully, if they really think that much of Taylor, they won't let the same thing happen.

One thing for sure though, Taylor will be more and more a highly sought after commodity....
 
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Not sure why they would wait until after signing day when it would benefit them to him before or during recruiting period. Unless there is a rule they can't touch coaches until after. Don't know that rule.
 
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(hohenfelsvol @ Jan 24 said:
Not sure why they would wait until after signing day when it would benefit them to him before or during recruiting period. Unless there is a rule they can't touch coaches until after. Don't know that rule.
I heard that Richt says there are ethical considerations. I don't know if he is speaking personally or from a rules point of view. Supposedly Garner and Trooper are close friends and Garner really wants him at UGA. From what I hear the UGA boosters pay a significant part of Garner's salary. Do the UT boosters do that for any of our coaches?
 
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(jakez4ut @ Jan 24 said:
yeah, that was a bad day....he was great. and i remember thinking when i heard he left, why in the heck didn't they try to best UGA?

Oh well....hopefully, if they really think that much of Taylor, they won't let the same thing happen.

One thing for sure though, Taylor will be more and more a highly sought after commodity....

Garner has said more than once he left UT not only for better pay and a better title, but the chance of moving up the Fulmer Good Ole Boy ladder to QB or OC was flat nonexistent. :bad:
 
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(VolunteerHillbilly @ Jan 24 said:
No doubt about it, UGA has benefited tremendously and the Vols have suffered commensurately ever since UGA reclaimed in-state recruiting by hiring Rodney Garner from Tennessee. Who else remembers in the 1990's when we would pretty much cherry pick Georgia? Now there are a lot of rumors flying around that Right and the UGA money people are going to make Trooper Taylor an offer after signing day. I guess we'll all know more about this soon enough.
I hope your post isn't meant to compare Rodney Garner to Trooper Taylor. That would be commensurate to comparing Halle Berry to Missy Elliot.
 
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(hatvol96 @ Jan 24 said:
I hope your post isn't meant to compare Rodney Garner to Trooper Taylor. That would be commensurate to comparing Halle Berry to Missy Elliot.
No, not comparing them at all. Just pointing out that if the rumors are true UGA is about to rook us out of another good recruiter.
 
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Yeah, we know Georgia's success has come because of Garner's recruiting and not because of Richt coaching. Come on, be real. Richt can flat out coach. Garner may have wanted to "move up the ladder" but how often do you hear about how great a position coach he is...it's all about his recruiting not his coaching.
 
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To tell you how good a recruiter he is . . . There's a pretty well documented incident where Garner cold cocked Jim Donnan. One of them still works for UGA, the other is out to pasture.
 
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UGA has dominated Georgia and the South because of Garner.

They have dominated the area because they have won 2 SEC Titles and have had Van Gorder, Martinez, and Richt on the sidelines.
 
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Didn't Fulmer already give him a bogus promotion and a raise to keep him from going to TX?

Are you saying he needs another raise?

Have we really done that well recruiting running backs with Trooper?

Somebody fill me in on who he has landed that illustrates what a great recruiter he is. Is it at another position?
 
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(Lady Vol Fan @ Jan 25 said:
Didn't Fulmer already give him a bogus promotion and a raise to keep him from going to TX?

Are you saying he needs another raise?

Have we really done that well recruiting running backs with Trooper?

Somebody fill me in on who he has landed that illustrates what a great recruiter he is. Is it at another position?

Trooper was influential in keeping Gerald Riggs from leaving UT. He is a player's coach and the players rally around him. His fire and passion helps attracts players. If you ever played football, then you know what i'm talking about. I preferred playing for an somewhat emotional coach as opposed to a hohum coach. Trooper is a big asset to Tennessee and furthermore he recruits other positions as well.
 
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(Lady Vol Fan @ Jan 25 said:
Didn't Fulmer already give him a bogus promotion and a raise to keep him from going to TX?

Are you saying he needs another raise?

Have we really done that well recruiting running backs with Trooper?

Somebody fill me in on who he has landed that illustrates what a great recruiter he is. Is it at another position?
UT assigns recruiting responsibilities by geography, not the position they coach.
 
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Garner at UT. The Vols rule the East.
Garner at UGA. The Dogs rule the East.
That's a fairly simple equation to decipher.
 
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Easy come-Easy go. I can't see doing these knee-jerk "oh I'm afraid I will lose this or that coach" reactions to what rumors you hear about who wants this or that coach.

Rodney Garner was good for the program when he was here. Trooper Taylor has been ok for the program although I can remember a few fumbles that I would like to forget. If he is that hot an item, so be it, good luck where your are going, don't let the door hit you in the butt on your way out.

Tennessee will always have some coaches that someone wants. Tennessee is always looking for some coach that someone else has. It the nature of the business.

Like I said at the beginning, Easy come-Easy go.
 
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(hatvol96 @ Jan 25 said:
UT assigns recruiting responsibilities by geography, not the position they coach.

I didn't know that he was instrumental in keeping Riggs here and have no doubt the fire and passion he exhibits makes him great to be coached by.

Still think that the position coach would have an impact on why somebody would choose to come here, though.

But given that it's geography, I'm at a loss as to who we can attribute to Trooper that demonstrates his outstanding recruiting ability?
 
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(Lady Vol Fan @ Jan 25 said:
I didn't know that he was instrumental in keeping Riggs here and have no doubt the fire and passion he exhibits makes him great to be coached by.

Still think that the position coach would have an impact on why somebody would choose to come here, though.

But given that it's geography, I'm at a loss as to who we can attribute to Trooper that demonstrates his outstanding recruiting ability?


Well I am asking because I am not sure :dunno: , but who was responsible for last year's #1 recruting class?
 
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letting garner go was the worst mistake fulmer ever did. he should have cut the rest of his offensive staff and give the extra money to garner to keep him. tennessee hasn't been the same since he left.
 
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I know Trooper was instrumental in picking up Hardesty and i know he was getting some press for shaking up the south florida recruiting scene because some of his connections were controversial but i can't recall why.
 
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(smokedog#3 @ Jan 25 said:
letting garner go was the worst mistake fulmer ever did. he should have cut the rest of his offensive staff and give the extra money to garner to keep him. tennessee hasn't been the same since he left.

At Tennessee from '96-'97. He wasn't around long enough to quantify whether the program has been the same since or not.

Granted, it would have been good to see him stick around and get a chance to make a real impact for us. But that's just water flowing under bridges now...
 
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(TBALLVOL @ Jan 25 said:
I know Trooper was instrumental in picking up Hardesty and i know he was getting some press for shaking up the south florida recruiting scene because some of his connections were controversial but i can't recall why.

Pretty sure Troops was in on D. Morley as well...
 
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(orange+white=heaven @ Jan 25 said:
At Tennessee from '96-'97. He wasn't around long enough to quantify whether the program has been the same since or not.

Granted, it would have been good to see him stick around and get a chance to make a real impact for us. But that's just water flowing under bridges now...
Given that we haven't taken talents like J. Lewis, Deon Grant, and Cosey Coleman out of Georgia since he left, I have no problem saying things haven't been the same.
 
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(hatvol96 @ Jan 25 said:
Given that we haven't taken talents like J. Lewis, Deon Grant, and Cosey Coleman out of Georgia since he left, I have no problem saying things haven't been the same.

I dunno Hat, Rodney goes to Georgia and we don't get the kind of kids outta there we used to. So Rodney was the reason those GA kids left GA?

Or... Mark Richt starts winning big at the GA kids' homestate school, and now the GA kids are lining up to be fitted for silver britches?

One of these? Both? Chicken? Egg?

Credit where it's due though my friend, Garner is a good recruiter and coach.

 
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(orange+white=heaven @ Jan 25 said:
I dunno Hat, Rodney goes to Georgia and we don't get the kind of kids outta there we used to. So Rodney was the reason those GA kids left GA?

Or... Mark Richt starts winning big at the GA kids' homestate school, and now the GA kids are lining up to be fitted for silver britches?

One of these? Both? Chicken? Egg?

Credit where it's due though my friend, Garner is a good recruiter and coach.
Garner's a good coach. He's an elite recruiter. Don't forget the talent he brought in at Auburn during his stay there.
 
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(Mr. Rockytop @ Jan 25 said:
Trooper was influential in keeping Gerald Riggs from leaving UT. He is a player's coach and the players rally around him. His fire and passion helps attracts players. If you ever played football, then you know what i'm talking about. I preferred playing for an somewhat emotional coach as opposed to a hohum coach. Trooper is a big asset to Tennessee and furthermore he recruits other positions as well.

Gerald Riggs was never going anywhere.
 

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