Who is worse Zo or Buzz

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#4
We may be underachieving, but buzz-ball was another level of suckitude. Neither is acceptable.
 
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#8
It doesn't matter who is worse, neither is acceptable to coach at UT. It is now time for Dave Hart to get out there and fix this miserable situation.:mad:
 
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Buzz had a losing season his 4th year. I would say Cuonzo would do the same next season after losing who we do this season. Id say they are a wash. Cuonzo has probably a few more wins but the SEC was getting 4 to 5 and sometimes 6 teams in tourney back then and now the conference is so awful SEC only gets 2 or 3. So the moral of the story they are equal so why let another year blow up in our face the way it did for year 4 of Buzz Ball.
 
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tnwayback said:
It doesn't matter who is worse, neither is acceptable to coach at UT. It is now time for Dave Hart to get out there and fix this miserable situation.:mad:
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That really is true. You're either making progress and getting into the tournament or you're not.
 
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GAVol said:
That really is true. You're either making progress and getting into the tournament or you're not.
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Some say Buzz wasn't even the best coach in his house. Jenn I believe his wifes name was coached like a church league or something for their sons ironically enough.
 
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The team we had with Yarbrough in 2001-02 was definitely NCAA Tournament worthy in terms of talent but lost on last second shots all year long due in large part to poor game management and a refusal to foul with a 3 point lead in the closing seconds. Just off the top of my head I remember Louisville, Georgia and Florida all beating us on last second 3's or in OT following a made 3 at the end of regulation. They are both poor but Buzz was worse and let's not forget what Bruce did in '06 with basically the same team Buzz had in '05.
 
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Neither one was very good, but Martin is the lesser of the 2 evils:



Buzz 1st 3 years:

47-42 overall
23-25 conference record
0 NCAATs
2 NITs


Martin 1st year 3 years(not complete):

55-38 overall
28-19 conference record
0 or 1 NCAATs
2 or 3 NITs
 
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hillsborovol said:
Buzz...not close either.

Martin hasn't really come close to having a losing season.

Buzz is more like Wade Houston.
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But if they switched eras Id say results would be similar. Georgia, South Carolina, Arkansas, Mississippi state Vanderbilt, Alabama were all better than they are now and everyone else was close to the same as they are now. Adding Mizzou and Texas A&M is more like whatever. So in Buzz days several more teams were making the Dance.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Neither one was very good, but Martin is the lesser of the 2 evils:



Buzz 1st 3 years:

47-42 overall
23-25 conference record
0 NCAATs
2 NITs


Martin 1st year 3 years(not complete):

55-38 overall
28-19 conference record
0 NCAATs
3 NITs
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FYP. Lets go ahead and call a duck a duck.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
The team we had with Yarbrough in 2001-02 was definitely NCAA Tournament worthy in terms of talent but lost on last second shots all year long due in large part to poor game management and a refusal to foul with a 3 point lead in the closing seconds. Just off the top of my head I remember Louisville, Georgia and Florida all beating us on last second 3's or in OT following a made 3 at the end of regulation. They are both poor but Buzz was worse and let's not forget what Bruce did in '06 with basically the same team Buzz had in '05.
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Exactly right. I do think had Buzz not had to kick Elgrace Wilborn off the team his last year for breaking Brandon Crumps jaw he would have had another winning season but not NCAA worthy imo.
 
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Also, I'm pretty sure that Lofton was on the verge of transferring if Buzz had been brought back in '06. Can you imagine the years from '06-'08 without Chris?
 
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They're both worse than what Tennessee deserve(d)(s).From a standpoint of wins and losses though, I don't think anyone can argue the SEC is currently better than it was during Buzz's tenure. In my opinion, this neutralizes Cuonzo's better SEC record.

Comparing the records is moot when you look at the overall results. Zero Tournament appearances.

What you have to look at is their coaching prowess and I use that term loosely.

Buzz continued to change offensive and defensive philosophies ultimately detrimental to team chemistry. His game management was piss poor, case in point, January 20, 2004, the last Buzz coached Tennessee game I attended. Up by 3, all momentum going Tennessee's way and his inability to communicate to his team to foul allowed UK to score and tie for OT, eventually losing.

Cuonzo has poor presence in big games and as we are currently witnessing, head scratching moments that ultimately lose those games.

They are eerily similar in one aspect. Back in the day when Freak and I were doing the radio show, I referred to Buzz Peterson's style as "Option A" basketball. He was incapable of drawing up a play that had a second option if the first was well-defended. Cuonzo seems to have adopted the same philosophy. Past the drawn up "play" of getting it to one player (McRae against Mizzou, e.g.) the team had nowhere else to go.

Buzz got fired over it, Cuonzo? Who knows, but today's timeout with 3 seconds while the go-ahead basket is falling may be the death knell.
 
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