Who Performed Worse: Coaches Or Players?

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Deplorable execution and miserable effort by both players and coaches. The other team didn't even require their head coach to show up! The players loafed in getting back in transition defense all night! The coaches seemed to have little or no control over casual dribbling and holding the ball with little passing...resounding lack of effort and hustle by the team in orange and white. It's going to get worse I'm afraid! The talent on the floor in blue was far inferior to the team in white, but desire, effort, and hustle trumped talent in a glaring way! Disgusted with this team effort...or lack of effort...no sense of urgency, and no team chemistry! Pathetic doesn't do justice as a descriptive definition of the crap on display in TBA tonight!
 
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hokievol12 said:
Deplorable execution and miserable effort by both players and coaches. The other team didn't even require their head coach to show up! The players loafed in getting back in transition defense all night! The coaches seemed to have little or no control over casual dribbling and holding the ball with little passing...resounding lack of effort and hustle by the team in orange and white. It's going to get worse I'm afraid! The talent on the floor in blue was far inferior to the team in white, but desire, effort, and hustle trumped talent in a glaring way! Disgusted with this team effort...or lack of effort...no sense of urgency, and no team chemistry! Pathetic doesn't do justice as a descriptive definition of the crap on display in TBA tonight!
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Flip a coin, they simply invited Florida to shoot all the 3's they wanted to shoot.Holly simply does not have an answer when things go South. Look at all the bad decisions that was made tonight. The sad thing about it all, there are still fans drinking the Holly cool aide and all is well in LV land. Right now any fan who thinks we are a final 4 team are out of their mind. Especially the way they are playing. We need to pray they can be a sweet 16 team.
 
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I usually recognize a LV thread from the main page and don't even open them any more. Hard to believe how negative nearly everything has become.

Used to be pi**ing contests about losing a Final Four game or some such. Those days are long gone. Carry on. :-\
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
This is on the players. The coaches can not shoot the damn ball into the basket for the players!

DeShields was awful.
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+100000000....it's crazy how many open shots we missed! Not even counting the layups!

Diamond needs to understand that 3 point shots and mid range shots are not her forte! She should try and drive to the basket on almost every play that's called for her!
 
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Deshields is the problem on offense. Takes too many shots bad selection of shots and expects to shoot every time she gets the ball. Until she learns how to be a team player the rest of the team is not going to try. Holly built her up to much before season started and Holly can't control her now.
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
You just don't like the coaches, and want them fired. No way is shooting 29%, and missing layups on the coaches.
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Wouldn't that mean that coaches whose teams shoot high percentages shouldn't get credit for developing shooting skills & offenses designed to take advantage of those skills?

It ought to work both ways.

The coaches aren't paid big bucks just to recruit athletes & then turn them loose.
 
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LadyVol1908 said:
Even Bashaara sucked offensively tonight!
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I have a hard time finding fault with Bashaara because of how hard she plays. She never gives up on a play. Her rebounding was relentless, but Florida had 3 players clogging the lane every time she tried to make a move, and Tennessee's perimeter players did nothing to ease up the pressure on her.

This one is on the players. At least half of the threes they missed were wide open. These are supposedly some of the best players coming out of high school, and they can't hit a wide open three? Holly's substitution patterns sucked, but it wasn't her bricking wide open three after another.
 
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creekdipper said:
Wouldn't that mean that coaches whose teams shoot high percentages shouldn't get credit for developing shooting skills & offenses designed to take advantage of those skills?

It ought to work both ways.

The coaches aren't paid big bucks just to recruit athletes & then turn them loose.
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Tennessee was missed many layups and wide open shots. What coaching TECHNIQUES can correct that?
 
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creekdipper said:
Wouldn't that mean that coaches whose teams shoot high percentages shouldn't get credit for developing shooting skills & offenses designed to take advantage of those skills?

It ought to work both ways.

The coaches aren't paid big bucks just to recruit athletes & then turn them loose.
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Couldn't have said it better myself!:good!:
 
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Make no mistake: Warlick is a bad coach. She does not have a grip on her team--in any way. Ultimately, it is ALWAYS about the coaching. Does anyone think that if Geno or Muffet or any good coach had this group we'd be playing like this? NOT A CHANCE. Team confidence and competence is a function of coaching. Why does Carter come out of the game? She plays 3.5 minutes and Warlick--bright bulb that she is--takes her out and puts in Cooper, who was again bad on both ends. Carter should play the whole game--she is the only halfway dependable player we have. The problem on offense is that we don't have an offense: Our main tactic is to try to get the ball inside--but our inside players are not that good--a fact that escapes that brilliant staff of ours. We don't see to set a lot of picks, and we pass the ball around pretty slowly--and we end up missing a lot of shots. I'm shocked at how many open shots DeShields misses. She was 6 of 21, and I think about four of her baskets came inside. She basically missed 15 shots between 10-20 feet. Cooper was just as bad--and doesn't play defense--and yet Warlick seems to think she's helping the team. The team is a mess.
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
...No way is shooting 29%, and missing layups on the coaches.
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When it's a one-off occurrence that happens only occasionally, I don't blame a coach.

But when it's game-after-game for an entire season and then another season continuing and includes every player on the roster, I look for a systemic reason.
 
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Darth_Vol said:
Even without tonight this is the poorest shooting team in program history. This roster and its glaring flaws are absolutely on the coaches...
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It is not only the shooting. Russell was one of the better players this Summer playing, in I believe, the World Championship games under a different coach. However, under Holly she is not aggressive, has problems holding on to the ball, is constantly out of position on both ends of the court, and spends too much time watching the game while on the floor. These are flaws that a coach making $800,000 a year should know how to correct. The sad part of it all is Holly admits that she does not know what to do. Right now this is simply a bad coaching staff.
 
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