Who Performed Worse: Coaches Or Players?

#26
#26
DeShields was absolutely horrible tonight. 6-21 shooting, poor defense and 7 turnovers. Inexcusable--unacceptable. Warlick needs to have a sit-down with her and read her the riot act. Don't count on that happening.
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
You just don't like the coaches, and want them fired. No way is shooting 29%, and missing layups on the coaches.
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I agree and disagree. Yes the players are the ones missing the shots. But, when the coaches don't hold the players accountable for missing shots then its on the coaches. I wonder how many times at practice easy layups are missed or we don't execute a screen properly, or any other array of mistakes and Holly just lets it go. My high school coach would stop practice and make is run til our tongues hung out if we didn't execute properly. Holly has no control over the team and that is obvious. So, yes players are going to play like they are coached. Half-hearted play, lack of concentration, lack of effort, all eventually falls on the coaches for not demanding more.
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
Tennessee was missed many layups and wide open shots. What coaching TECHNIQUES can correct that?
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When I was playing/coaching, we called it "practice."

Maybe it goes by some new-fangled term these days...can't keep up with the whippersnappers & their dang medium socials.
 
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Amb3096 said:
Her rebounding was relentless, but Florida had 3 players clogging the lane every time she tried to make a move, and Tennessee's perimeter players did nothing to ease up the pressure on her.
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I'm an optimist at heart but after watching last nights game, I'm being tugged a little bit towards the dark side.

The quote above has been the main issue all year if you ask me. Poor spacing, passing decisions, and no offensive threat to reduce the number of defenders in the paint is what is driving most of the offensive woes. Part of it probably lies in the offensive scheme being employed and part of it lies in the lack of confident but controlled aggressiveness in shooting and taking it to the basket. Until this issue is solved, the lane will continue to be jammed up and the LV's will have to earn their wins by shooting mid-range to long distance jumpers. I do not feel they will do well in that aspect of the game if history is any indicator.

If the coaching staff does not understand an offensive scheme that will fit this team and fix the lack of offense, they they should hire someone from the outside to help install an offense. It's not a hard decision to make 14 or so games into the year when what they are doing is not working well. I don't know how much time they spend on shooting but I think the players need to invest some more time on that skill as well.
 
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#35
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Jerking a knot in a player's tail who's not following the game plan would be a good start, but you also have to have some semblance of an offensive strategy to make your game plan work effectively. Holly won't do the first and can't do the second, I'm afraid.

When players are continuously allowed to do their own thing with no repercussions, that's 100% on the coaching staff. Lack of discipline from the coaches leads to lack of respect from the players, and I think that's a big part of the malaise we're seeing in the program.

"I think it was the quality of shots we were taking," Carter said. "We just weren't taking good shots. I think that was the major difference in the game." The redshirt junior guard mentioned Tennessee's 4-for-22 misfiring on 3-pointers as an example. "You can't blame Holly," Carter said. "She was telling the guards over and over again to penetrate."

Warlick repeated the same 4-for-22 stat line and added, "That was not our game plan. We were on our own agenda tonight...I'm telling them to drive. They're shooting threes."

Graves' misses, on the other hand, were from close range. She was credited with nine of the team's 16 missed layups.
Poor shooting highlights Tennessee?s loss to Florida
 
#36
#36
The players are worse than the coaches how pathetic is 30 percent from the field. If these players can't get their efficiency up then they deserve to keep losing. Quit taking threes and drive the ball get the other team in foul trouble and get to the line.
We missed a golden opportunity last night had Florida in foul trouble with over five minutes left in the third quarter no one made an effort to drive the ball and get fouled from a team that loved to foul. Instead we start firing three and long perimeter shots.
Holly can take plenty of blame for this teams basketball IQ because you have to demand players make the right choices and she isn't tough enough to make it happen.
 
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It is easy to say, when you are missing shots, that you should drive to the basket instead--and that is partly true. But if a team is playing zone and has concentrated its defense inside, then driving to the basket isn't so easy. DeShields can do it, does it--and needs to do it more, but we have few players other than her who can take the ball to the rim. The fact is, because florida was playing quite a bit of zone and focused inside, we had a LOT of open jump shots. Those shots have to be made--period! You can't say, don't take wide open jump shots: If you don't shoot, then the defense will stay packed inside and dare you to make them. You have to make shots to get the opponent to extend his defense. In fact, I would argue that Warlick's obsession with getting the ball inside is a big reason why our players are not confident shooting outside shots. Open shots have to be made. When a player gets the ball inside, she is NOT going to be open, usually, she is going to be guarded and maybe have multiple players around her. Who does Warlick think is going to make all these inside shots? Graves? We are badly missing a spot up shooter like Burdick this year. We also do too much free-lancing. Instead of running disciplined sets, with picks and passes, we try to get the ball inside, then if that's not there the offense breaks down and somebody just tries to get a shot off--often DeShields. I think our offensive scheme is terrible and should be replaced, and beyond that players have to make open shots.
 
#41
#41
Cooper is a freshman and she still has room to improve, i'm more worried and disappointed on the others on this team especially for the fact that none of them is willing to take leadership and be vocal. they lack fundamentals and have a low basketball IQ. i'm afraid that she is still a pushover and the players feel that they're the one's in control not her. if she's telling them to do one thing and they still continue to do their own thing then that's very disrespectful. if she continues to let them get away with these things then this team will never get anywhere, everyone needs to be held accountable for their actions.
 
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Spacejam said:
Cooper is a freshman and she still has room to improve, i'm more worried and disappointed on the others on this team especially for the fact that none of them is willing to take leadership and be vocal. they lack fundamentals and have a low basketball IQ. i'm afraid that she is still a pushover and the players feel that they're the one's in control not her. if she's telling them to do one thing and they still continue to do their own thing then that's very disrespectful. if she continues to let them get away with these things then this team will never get anywhere, everyone needs to be held accountable for their actions.
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Let`s be real no one is telling anyone anything Cooper has been disappointment from day one. There are some good pg`s in the 2017 that`s better then Cooper and that`s a fact.
 
#43
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VolUpInCumming said:
If 5 & 4 * players who were recruited because they were such good scorers in high school (and UNC) can't score on their own court at UT, that's on the coaching!
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You are correct. Teaching players to take good shots within the offense is part of coaching. A big part of coaching!
 
#44
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@djtee
Okay? that still doesn't change the fact that i'm more disappointed in the other players who have had more experience at the college level than a freshman who still has a lot to learn.
 
#45
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Spacejam said:
@djtee
Okay? that still doesn't change the fact that i'm more disappointed in the other players who have had more experience at the college level than a freshman who still has a lot to learn.
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Correct the other players have been bad. But to me if you are gonna recruit a pg make sure they are not one-dimensional and right now Cooper is that. The staff must work with her on her shooting form.
 
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Spacejam said:
@djtee
Okay? that still doesn't change the fact that i'm more disappointed in the other players who have had more experience at the college level than a freshman who still has a lot to learn.
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Marina Mabrey of ND was rated below Cooper. She is light years ahead of cooper now. Great coaching helps.
 
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VAfan said:
Marina Mabrey of ND was rated below Cooper. She is light years ahead of cooper now. Great coaching helps.
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Okay? i wasn't the one labeling Cooper as the second coming or labeling her rookie of the year prematurely. every player on the team should be held accountable my disappointment for the upperclasswomen on this team still stands until they start leading by example.
 
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LVol said:
Deshields is the problem on offense. Takes too many shots bad selection of shots and expects to shoot every time she gets the ball. Until she learns how to be a team player the rest of the team is not going to try. Holly built her up to much before season started and Holly can't control her now.
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Nope, the offense is the problem. Diamond is forced to take many shots because the offense has failed and there are less than 10 seconds on the clock. Diamond is this team's only hope.
 
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