Who will be our QB this year?

[Quaint88]

Hasn't this been debated to death already?

Not quite, but this is the final round. The last man standing... may still be wrong.

 

[YorkVol]

The only person that I'm 999999999999999999999% sure it won't be is







































































me.

 

[KBVol]

I really don't think the stats tell the story of that night. He did well statistically, but he spent the entire night making poor decision after poor decision. He took several sacks because he just wouldn't get rid of the ball, he threw 2 picks that were just absolutely awful, like picks where it looked like he intended to throw the ball to the DB, he consistently threw into coverage on occasions where he had a man wide open.

I remember one point in the game he took a snap and had a receiver breaking hard to the right, wide open, nothing but green in front of him. Right after the snap Dobbs looked left and never looked back to the right. He just stared down his left the whole time. I was yelling "look to your right Dobbs!!! Look to your right!!!" then he got sacked.

If he had gone through his progressions properly we would have seen he had an open man, but instead his mind was set on throwing to someone on his left after he took the snap.

240 throwing yards is great but he only had a QBR of 18.7 which is awful. Matty Maulk's QBR was 81.0 on just 163 yards. Worley would have kept that game far more competitive.

Well, he was a freshman making his first start on the road, at night vs top 5 Missouri. The rest of the team appeared to not have made the trip, period. He was by far our most effective player.

Yes he made some mistakes, but he also made some very good throws, including one to Josh Smith on a seam route that would've gone for a 50 yd or so td had Smith not dropped it. He needed help and got none.

His QBR was so bad simply because of the ints. He actually completed a much higher % of his passes than Mauck despite the fact that Mauck had a far superior WR corps to throw to and had much better protection from his OL than Dobbs. Had Smith caught that ball and scored, which he should have done, Dobbs' QBR would've been much more respectable.

Oftentimes the ints that look that bad are actually the fault of the WR not running the correct route or, at a minimum, the QB and WR not being on the same page. Either way, I found it curious that the guy I responded to chose arguably Dobbs' best game as the one to pick out and call horrible. I'd have gone with the Vandy game personally in terms of his passing effectiveness, even though he had the game won with his td run if not for Pig's mistake.

 

[Jeepkuntry]

Assuming Worley is healthy, he will be our QB this year. Dobbs will take over next year. After next year there will be one heck of a competition for the starting role.

 

[phowell23]

Dobbs is too smart to play behind that o-line. He'll redshirt this year and play next year when they have some experience.

 

[BearBryant]

I saw above. More than half of what he said was wrong. Worley played very poorly vs Bama, Dobbs was nowhere near horrible vs Mizzou, and Dobbs was a 4 star recruit.

You should watch a replay of both games.

You will see that in the Alabama game, Worley had UT moving every series. Unfortunately they didn't score. Blame it on Worley if you like.

Watch the Missouri game closely and you will see that UT with a top notch QB would have been in that game to the end!!!

I stand by my original post 100%

 

[BearBryant]

I saw above. More than half of what he said was wrong. Worley played very poorly vs Bama, Dobbs was nowhere near horrible vs Mizzou, and Dobbs was a 4 star recruit.

What does 4 star recruit mean? He was going to Arizona what a hotbed for QB's. What other SEC teams went after him? Even Georgia look elsewhere.

By the way I'm not trying to bash Dobbs. He is smart and may become a good QB. But he is not there now.

Why was Ferguson believed to be the backup to Worley by all the "in the know" crowd?

 

[BearBryant]

Look, I'm typically a Worley defender but come the hell on.... when Worley got hurt right before the half he had led the Vols to exactly zero points, had a quarterback rating of 8.5 and had just handed Bama their 5th td of the half with a bad pick 6.

Next, Dobbs was horrible vs Missouri?? What? He set a UT freshman record with 26 completions. He threw for nearly 250 yds and was also UT's top rusher. He was easily UTs best player, hell their ONLY player, at top 5 Missouri that night. If you wanna say he was "horrible" vs Auburn or Vandy ok, but vs Missouri?? No way.

You need to rewatch the first half of BAMA. Worley was moving the team every series. Yes they weren't scoring and blame it on Worley. Yes is last interception was after he was injured.

UT's offense was beginning to show life until Worley got hurt against BAMA.

Yes Dobbs had good numbers, but he was not a good QB in that game or for that matter any game he started.

Remember FERGUSON would have gone in the Alabama game if he had not been injured! Dobbs was 4th string to be honest about it.

And coming out of Spring Practice THIS YEAR Ferguson was #2 not Dobbs.

I'm not trying to bash Dobbs but I don't have super confidence that he is THE MAN. Maybe he will be but he is not now.

 

[508mikey]

Its been a long time since a Vol QB played every game of the season

 

[KBVol]

You should watch a replay of both games.

You will see that in the Alabama game, Worley had UT moving every series. Unfortunately they didn't score. Blame it on Worley if you like.

Watch the Missouri game closely and you will see that UT with a top notch QB would have been in that game to the end!!!

I stand by my original post 100%

And I stand firmly behind mine. We disagree.

As far as Dobbs' recruitment, he was an Elite 11 QB finalist. While it's true that he didn't have a great offer list and that Georgia didn't offer, which isn't unusual, he was committed to Ariz State and had 17 total offers, including a handful of SEC and ACC schools including Duke/David Cutcliffe who is a pretty decent judge of QB talent.

One answer for why he was evaluated as a 4 star but didn't have a typical 4 star offer list could be his academics. He was clearly selective in what he wanted to study in college, aerodynamic engineering....he could've communicated this and perhaps that was a limiting factor. That's a bit of speculation on my part but I think it makes sense.

 

[tennezz]

Stars don't matter. That three star Johnny Manzel did ok for a average recruit

Manzel never did beat Tenn.

 

[k-town_king]

You should watch a replay of both games.

You will see that in the Alabama game, Worley had UT moving every series. Unfortunately they didn't score. Blame it on Worley if you like.

Watch the Missouri game closely and you will see that UT with a top notch QB would have been in that game to the end!!!

I stand by my original post 100%

VS SEC teams

Worley Junior year
54/103 52.4% 663 yds 3 tds 4 ints 4 sacks
With North
10 rushes 16 yards 0tds

Dobbs True Freshman
72/121 59.5% 695 yds 2tds 6 ints 7 sacks
No North for most of his playing time
38 rushes 189 yards 1td

Don't be surprised if Dobbs starts. As a true freshman he did better than Worley as a jr vs SEC teams. He threw more passes with two more ints. Accounted for the same amount of tds. He didn't even have the guy who was getting all of Worley's yards. He got all his tds vs bad non conference teams with North. I will not be surprised with either starting but Worley didn't really do better last year to be honest.

 

[KBVol]

You need to rewatch the first half of BAMA. Worley was moving the team every series. Yes they weren't scoring and blame it on Worley. Yes is last interception was after he was injured.

UT's offense was beginning to show life until Worley got hurt against BAMA.

Yes Dobbs had good numbers, but he was not a good QB in that game or for that matter any game he started.

Remember FERGUSON would have gone in the Alabama game if he had not been injured! Dobbs was 4th string to be honest about it.

And coming out of Spring Practice THIS YEAR Ferguson was #2 not Dobbs.

I'm not trying to bash Dobbs but I don't have super confidence that he is THE MAN. Maybe he will be but he is not now.

Btw.....Worley's 6 first half drives totaled 155 yds and no points..... that's 26 yards per drive.

Dobbs' 5 2nd half drives totaled 172 yds and 10 pts.... that's 34 yards per drive. Advantage Dobbs.

 

[k-town_king]

You need to rewatch the first half of BAMA. Worley was moving the team every series. Yes they weren't scoring and blame it on Worley. Yes is last interception was after he was injured.

UT's offense was beginning to show life until Worley got hurt against BAMA.

Yes Dobbs had good numbers, but he was not a good QB in that game or for that matter any game he started.

Remember FERGUSON would have gone in the Alabama game if he had not been injured! Dobbs was 4th string to be honest about it.

And coming out of Spring Practice THIS YEAR Ferguson was #2 not Dobbs.

I'm not trying to bash Dobbs but I don't have super confidence that he is THE MAN. Maybe he will be but he is not now.

When was Ferguson number 2? Also CBJ said Dobbs would have went in vs Bama no matter if RF was healthy or not. A lot of speculation on your part.

 

[ajvol01]

What does 4 star recruit mean? He was going to Arizona what a hotbed for QB's. What other SEC teams went after him? Even Georgia look elsewhere.

By the way I'm not trying to bash Dobbs. He is smart and may become a good QB. But he is not there now.

Why was Ferguson believed to be the backup to Worley by all the "in the know" crowd?

Arizona State

 

[KBVol]

When was Ferguson number 2? Also CBJ said Dobbs would have went in vs Bama no matter if RF was healthy or not. A lot of speculation on your part.

To be fair, Ferguson was splitting team 1 reps with Worley this Spring. It's been well documented.

As far as Dobbs going in ahead of Ferguson, I'm not sure of the reason. You could be right or it could be that Ferguson was already injured with the stress fracture.....that was week 9 of the season.

 

[KBVol]

You need to rewatch the first half of BAMA. Worley was moving the team every series. Yes they weren't scoring and blame it on Worley. Yes is last interception was after he was injured.

UT's offense was beginning to show life until Worley got hurt against BAMA.

Yes Dobbs had good numbers, but he was not a good QB in that game or for that matter any game he started.

Remember FERGUSON would have gone in the Alabama game if he had not been injured! Dobbs was 4th string to be honest about it.

And coming out of Spring Practice THIS YEAR Ferguson was #2 not Dobbs.

I'm not trying to bash Dobbs but I don't have super confidence that he is THE MAN. Maybe he will be but he is not now.

Don't disagree Dobbs was behind Ferguson this Spring because he was. You're dead wrong that he was 4th though....he was 3rd going into the Spring game and played well enough there to be pushing for 2nd string going into summer...now that Fergy is gone he's clearly 2nd and might push Worley a bit if he has a good camp.

As for your assertion that Worley was "moving the team every series", that's just not true either. Here are his first half drives...

3 plays, 6 yds, punt
6 plays 41 yds, Turnover on Downs
6 plays 21 yds, Punt
3 plays, 6 yds, Interception
8 plays 74 yds, Interception
1 play 7 yds, End of Half

We had all of 4 first downs with Worley as QB in the first half. Maybe you're the one who should go back and watch the UT-Bama game.

 

[BigTCountry]

Don't disagree Dobbs was behind Ferguson this Spring because he was. You're dead wrong that he was 4th though....he was 3rd going into the Spring game and played well enough there to be pushing for 2nd string going into summer...now that Fergy is gone he's clearly 2nd and might push Worley a bit if he has a good camp.

As for your assertion that Worley was "moving the team every series", that's just not true either. Here are his first half drives...

3 plays, 6 yds, punt
6 plays 41 yds, Turnover on Downs
6 plays 21 yds, Punt
3 plays, 6 yds, Interception
8 plays 74 yds, Interception
1 play 7 yds, End of Half

All Dobbs has to do is be smarter with the ball this year which should come naturally to any QB getting a years worth of experience coming out of his freshman season. Dobbs is a better option if he has improved. How long has it been since UT has needed a good Dual Threat QB that can get us out of 3 and outs. I would hope that any QB that signs with UT from here on out can be as good as worley in the sophomore year. To me, doesnt sound like a hard task. Rather see what Dobbs can do this year.

 

[Quaint88]

All Dobbs has to do is be smarter with the ball this year which should come naturally to any QB getting a years worth of experience coming out of his freshman season. Dobbs is a better option if he has improved.

I agree with this part, but I would add that Dobbs needs to really work on his long ball. It did not look good at all last year. I'm still hoping Worley will step up and run the offense this year, but there's no question that the offense would be much more exciting to watch with a dual threat QB running it well than with Worley running it well. I have no doubt that Dobbs's decision making will improve, but I think his long ball could allow a true freshman to beat him out in 2015 with the deep threats we'll have at WR. I do not want to see a true freshmen QB starting in 2015, no matter how highly rated coming out of high school.

 

[ManningBerry#1]

All Dobbs has to do is be smarter with the ball this year which should come naturally to any QB getting a years worth of experience coming out of his freshman season. Dobbs is a better option if he has improved. How long has it been since UT has needed a good Dual Threat QB that can get us out of 3 and outs. I would hope that any QB that signs with UT from here on out can be as good as worley in the sophomore year. To me, doesnt sound like a hard task. Rather see what Dobbs can do this year.

Since 98

 

[DaddyChad]

Bob Kesling tells me our starting QB will be Dustin Jurley.

 

[RymnNGarfunkel]

it should be my boy dobbs but you no it will be Worley

 

[MWAVolfan]

And I stand firmly behind mine. We disagree.

As far as Dobbs' recruitment, he was an Elite 11 QB finalist. While it's true that he didn't have a great offer list and that Georgia didn't offer, which isn't unusual, he was committed to Ariz State and had 17 total offers, including a handful of SEC and ACC schools including Duke/David Cutcliffe who is a pretty decent judge of QB talent.

One answer for why he was evaluated as a 4 star but didn't have a typical 4 star offer list could be his academics. He was clearly selective in what he wanted to study in college, aerodynamic engineering....he could've communicated this and perhaps that was a limiting factor. That's a bit of speculation on my part but I think it makes sense.

Id say it was more that Dobbs just wasnt that good, in spite of the star ratings. And that whole Elite 11 thing is a joke. Go look at the QBs in the past that were elite11 and they turned out to be nothing. ESPN is a joke when ranking anything or anybody.

Dobbs didnt get the offers because the coaches didnt think he was worthy. And your theory about him not getting offers because coaches were scared off by him wanting to be an engineer? How many coaches would LOVE to have a great QB who was virtually guaranteed to not be ruled ineligible due to academics.

 

[24/7vol]

Worley.

 

[butchna]

Id say it was more that Dobbs just wasnt that good, in spite of the star ratings. And that whole Elite 11 thing is a joke. Go look at the QBs in the past that were elite11 and they turned out to be nothing. ESPN is a joke when ranking anything or anybody.

Dobbs didnt get the offers because the coaches didnt think he was worthy. And your theory about him not getting offers because coaches were scared off by him wanting to be an engineer? How many coaches would LOVE to have a great QB who was virtually guaranteed to not be ruled ineligible due to academics.

Dobbs was amazing in his non EE true freshman coming out party...he will now be reinforced with his built up frame and offseason work with Whitfield. His superior thinking process will earn him the starting job and he will excel and win for the next three years!...you're going to be so happy! :dance2: