Why aren't players wearing helmets with padding on the outside?

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Shakinthefat said:
Having a well formed mouthpiece in will help keeping jaws slamming together thus causing less of a impact.
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Played half a game without a mouthpiece after I lost it. Used white athletic tape to look like a mouthpiece. Worst headache of my life and after a ct in my 50's the doc found some signs of brain damage but at least its wasn't cancer.
 
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Go aeiou said:
I've only heard/read that it helps prevent head injuries/concussions.
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Go aeiou said:
I've only heard/read that it helps prevent head injuries/concussions.
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Beyond that, I'm amazed they don't wear knee pads anymore. It's very easy to bang your knee on a helmet and that can take you out for a few plays.
 
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Was just having this discussion this morning with a group of friends, one of which is partnering directly with Virginia Tech for another use of these type helmets in the corporate world (Healthcare related). VT has a department dedicated to this study entirely according to him, and they have estimated a 70% reduction in concussions with the guardian cap.

I suspect that within 10 years, you will see it become a requirement in the NFL and trickle down thru the collegiate, prep, and youth leagues, as well.
 
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padding in the outside absorbs energy and increases the amount of space/time for the skull and brain to decelerate. Just like the front end of cars crumple to allow slower deceleration of the passenger in impact.
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
Dick Butkus once said if you want to reduce head injuries, get rid of the helmet altogether.
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No offense to you, but Dick Butkis isn't who I would trust to make scientific decisions about safety.

And in a study conducted a few years back, Rugby players (who use no pads or helmets) suffered concussions at a higher rate than football players.
 
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I guess it helps but for the life of me it seems it would offer " little help"
If it's a game changer make the helmet's larger and put it inside. Maybe like the massive helmets in Spaceball.
Of course this will lead to more neck, shoulder and back relate injuries down the road.
 
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Zues1 said:
I guess it helps but for the life of me it seems it would offer " little help"
If it's a game changer make the helmet's larger and put it inside. Maybe like the massive helmets in Spaceball.
Of course this will lead to more neck, shoulder and back relate injuries down the road.
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While I am not a physicist by any means, I don't believe it works that way.
 
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I watched Requiem for a Running Back last night on Prime. It’s about NFL players with CTE. I don’t blame anyone for using the extra padding or retiring early after watching that documentary.

They said CTE doesn’t just impact the player. It does a number on the family also.
 
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DeepSpringsVol said:
I have three theories. One as person above says aesthetics. Guys don't like the way it looks. Secondly I think some guys defenders while try or should anyways avoid targeting like using helmet as a weapon when lowering head and they don't want to cushion the blow for the opponent. Thirdly to avoid the "SOFT" talk on the field. Can you imagine a player with the fire that Boo Carter does jawing with an opponent.

None of that makes it right. Just theories on my behalf.
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My kids played hockey through high school. I was amazed at the NHL players without face shields. Catch a slapshot or a stick to the face and it hurts. Macho though.
 
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Carp said:
While I am not a physicist by any means, I don't believe it works that way.
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The brain is sitting unanchored in a jelly like bath in the skull. The repetitive banging from the whiplash effect is the problem. The brain gets damaged from banging around inside the cranium. I’m unsure if exterior padding on the helmet helps but I guess it can’t hurt.
 
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Orangepantsforever said:
The way I understand it, it’s the movement of the brain against the inside of the skull (due to a sudden stop/start) that causes brain injury. How does extra padding on the outside help to prevent any of that? Honest question. I’m not a neurologist, and I only played football through high school. Had plenty of headaches from impacts, but I don’t think that extra exterior padding would preclude the brain from freely moving within. In my opinion, the guardian caps are just to make the spectator feel better, and they actually do nothing.
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more of a physics question. the padding is designed to absorb the impact so the reaction or jerk of the brain within the skull is slowed/less sudden. similar to those water barrels in between a guardrail and a jersey barrier. imagine hitting that jersey barrier head on and how much more violent the reaction of your body within the car is.
 
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Jxn Vol said:
The brain is sitting unanchored in a jelly like bath in the skull. The repetitive banging from the whiplash effect is the problem. The brain gets damaged from banging around inside the cranium. I’m unsure if exterior padding on the helmet helps but I guess it can’t hurt.
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The data suggests it reduces concussions rates by up to 70%. I guess we'll see if that is true as it's use becomes more widespread,/
 
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Ghost of Archvol said:
more of a physics question. the padding is designed to absorb the impact so the reaction or jerk of the brain within the skull is slowed/less sudden. similar to those water barrels in between a guardrail and a jersey barrier. imagine hitting that jersey barrier head on and how much more violent the reaction of your body within the car is.
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Makes sense.
 
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DeepSpringsVol said:
I have three theories. One as person above says aesthetics. Guys don't like the way it looks. Secondly I think some guys defenders while try or should anyways avoid targeting like using helmet as a weapon when lowering head and they don't want to cushion the blow for the opponent. Thirdly to avoid the "SOFT" talk on the field. Can you imagine a player with the fire that Boo Carter does jawing with an opponent.

None of that makes it right. Just theories on my behalf.
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If everyone were forced to do it, there would be no trash talk about softness or looking dumb.
 
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