Why do we not recruit Virginia??

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Virginia has tons of talent and is on the border with us. we could pluck talent from that state but it seems like we hardly do... take justin hunter for example. he was commited to LSU bc tenn was not hunting him...but when dooley gets in he shows him the slightest bit of love and he plops in our lap....maybe having a UVA alum might help us recruit VA and make that state be in the back of his mind... your thoughts????
 
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Its been said that Hunter had switched his commit to UT but was a Kiffin silent. From what I gather, Dooley encouraged him to come on out with it.

Its just hearsay, though...I'm not sure there is anything concrete to this.
 
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where do you think the team that took us to the woodshed in the bowl game last season gets about 60 % or more of their players from? of course it's virginia. va tech shows how much talent their is in the state. the tidewater area is a hotbed of talent !! i agree we need to hit this state very hard this year for great talent !!! the state produces a great deal more players than tennessee does. i really believe ccd will watch for more players from va. :lolabove: :rock:
 
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Considering our new coach played ball in Virginia, I'm sure he will keep his eyes open...Justin Hunter.
 
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Guys, after living up here for seven years, I am absolutely amazed at he level of talent in just what they call Hampton Roads area Suffolk, Portsmouth, Norfolk, Chesapeake, Hamton, and Virginia Beach. I know you don't want to be reminded of this but, Percy Harvin was number one recruit out of Landstown High in Virginia Beach. There are so many from this area in MLB I can't even name them all. I was wondering why we haven't reruited more from here. I live so close to Ocean Lakes I can sit out on my back deck and listen to he game. I hope we come back up here soon. GBO!!!
 
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Are you using "Virginia" as a euphemism or are you serious? If you're using it as a euphemism, hell yea! Let's get all the "Virginia" we can!
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We have had a few players from there over the years.....I wouldn't mind seeing us making a harder push up there, there is a lot of talent
 
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Orange Studs said:
Guys, after living up here for seven years, I am absolutely amazed at he level of talent in just what they call Hampton Roads area Suffolk, Portsmouth, Norfolk, Chesapeake, Hamton, and Virginia Beach. I know you don't want to be reminded of this but, Percy Harvin was number one recruit out of Landstown High in Virginia Beach. There are so many from this area in MLB I can't even name them all. I was wondering why we haven't reruited more from here. I live so close to Ocean Lakes I can sit out on my back deck and listen to he game. I hope we come back up here soon. GBO!!!
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Hampton roads as a group would be in the 10 largest cities in America.

I love VA players and it was a reason I always hated slade that he got so few of those studs.
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we do recruit virginia. yes they have some talent but i wouldn't say it's off the charts. uva and va tech rosters are full of mid-range talent.
 
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Hampton is like 7-8 hours away. I wonder if Dooley will still recruit it hard even though it's outside our 5-hour "region."
 
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jrobison said:
Its been said that Hunter had switched his commit to UT but was a Kiffin silent. From what I gather, Dooley encouraged him to come on out with it.

Its just hearsay, though...I'm not sure there is anything concrete to this.
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The Hunter switch to Tennessee was in the works weeks before the whole coaching change took place. It had as much to do with the location/track and field combo than anything else. LSU was just too far away from his family and he wanted a solid track and field program that was closer to home.

And I agree that Virginia should absolutely be prioritized by the staff. Ridiculous talent in that state. I'm not sure if there is any one guy on staff that has strong ties to the state though. As much as I thought Fulmer had lost his touch he did make a smart hire from a recruiting standpoint when he brought in Latrell Scott. Too bad he wasn't much of an actual position coach though.
 
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DownTheField said:
we do recruit virginia. yes they have some talent but i wouldn't say it's off the charts. uva and va tech rosters are full of mid-range talent.
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That's pretty accurate. The Hampton Roads area is always referenced for talent but that is because of a few absolute freaks throughout the years and some fairly solid talent after that. There seem to be a couple of guys from here every year that make some noise but its not like there are teams with handfulls of D1 level talent.
 
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sammyjoey said:
Why would you compare a metropolitan area to a city? The metropolitan area of Greenville, SC has 640,000 and the city of Atlanta has 550,000. So Greenville is bigger than Atlanta?

Hampton Roads is the 36th largest metropolitan area in the country
Table of United States Metropolitan Statistical Areas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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1 New York New York 8,391,881
2 Los Angeles California 3,831,868
3 Chicago Illinois 2,851,268
4 Houston Texas 2,257,926

Those are the only cities in America that are larger than metro Hampton Roads.

The point was that Hampton Roads has a large population, and I would say 1.6 million is large. Virginia Beach, Norfolk etc do not seem that large, but the population of that area is almost 3 times larger than metro Knoxville. It will not be surprising after the new census if it is more like 4 times larger now.

Sorry if you struggle with reading comprehension.

I said "A (metro Hampton Roads) is B (equivalent to top 10 in city population in the U.S.)"

and you took from that a statement that Greeneville is bigger than Atlanta...


I think the people saying we have always recruited VA were not following recruiting that closely during the Fulmer era. Slade was supposed to be getting guys and we missed over and over again...Al Groh convinced NFL talent to come waste away at a school that never competes.
 
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My point was that it's deceptive to compare a metro area to a city.

The Buffalo, NY metro area is also a top 10 city
The Raleigh, NC metro area is also a top 10 city
The Birmingham, AL metro area is also a top 10 city
The Richmond, VA metro area is also a top 10 city
The Louisville, KY metro area is also a top 10 city
The Memphis, TN metro area is also a top 10 city
The Jacksonville, FL metro area is also a top 10 city
The Nashville, TN metro area is also a top 10 city
The Indianapolis, IN metro area is also a top 10 city
The Charlotte, NC metro area is also a top 10 city
The Orlando, FL metro area is also a top 10 city
The Kansas City, MO metro area is also a top 10 city
The Providence, RI metro area is also a top 10 city
The Oklahoma City, OK metro area is also a top 10 city


But I think we agree that the Va Beach area is one of the more populated areas within a 8-9 hour radius of Knoxville, has a ton of D-1 talent, and should be recruited.
 
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We have never recruited SW VA much. We should have had Thomas and Julius Jones. Knoxville was closer than Charlottesville and South Bend.
 
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sammyjoey said:
My point was that it's deceptive to compare a metro area to a city.

The Buffalo, NY metro area is also a top 10 city
The Raleigh, NC metro area is also a top 10 city
The Birmingham, AL metro area is also a top 10 city
The Richmond, VA metro area is also a top 10 city
The Louisville, KY metro area is also a top 10 city
The Memphis, TN metro area is also a top 10 city
The Jacksonville, FL metro area is also a top 10 city
The Nashville, TN metro area is also a top 10 city
The Indianapolis, IN metro area is also a top 10 city
The Charlotte, NC metro area is also a top 10 city
The Orlando, FL metro area is also a top 10 city
The Kansas City, MO metro area is also a top 10 city
The Providence, RI metro area is also a top 10 city
The Oklahoma City, OK metro area is also a top 10 city


But I think we agree that the Va Beach area is one of the more populated areas within a 8-9 hour radius of Knoxville, has a ton of D-1 talent, and should be recruited.
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Sorry was not trying to deceive. Maybe most people here have never been to Virginia Beach and so did not suffer from the misconception that it was more like Pigeon Forge size wise than Orlando FL metro.

Lots of great athletes coming out of that area including the Vick boys and many more:


Chesapeake

* Ed Beard (b. 1939) – professional football player for the San Francisco 49ers
* Dré Bly (b. 1977) – professional football player with the Denver Broncos
* Chris Crocker (b. 1980) – professional football player with the Atlanta Falcons
* Michael Cuddyer (b. 1979) – professional baseball right fielder for the Minnesota Twins
* Kenny Easley (b. 1959) – professional football player with the Seattle Seahawks
* DeAngelo Hall (b. 1983) – professional football cornerback for the Washington Redskins
* Alonzo Mourning (b. 1970) – professional basketball player for the Miami Heat
* Darren Perry (b. 1968) – football player with the Pittsburgh Steelers
* Josh Rupe (b. 1982) – professional baseball pitcher for the Texas Rangers
* B.J. Upton (b. 1984) – professional baseball shortstop for the Tampa Bay Rays; drafted #2 overall in 2002
* Justin Upton (b. 1987) – professional baseball player drafted #1 overall in 2005 by the Arizona Diamondbacks
* David Wright (b. 1982) – professional baseball starting third baseman for the New York Mets


Hampton

* Ronald Curry (b. 1979) – professional football player for the Oakland Raiders
* Shaun Gayle (b. 1962) – professional football player with the San Diego Chargers
* Chris Hanburger (b. 1941) – popular Washington Redskins player in the 1970s
* Mike Husted (b. 1970) – former kicker for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Oakland Raiders, and Washington Redskins
* Allen Iverson (b. 1975) – professional basketball player, point guard for the Philadelphia 76ers
* Dwight Stephenson (b. 1957) – professional football player for the Miami Dolphins and member of the Pro Football Hall of Fame
* Dwight White (1949-2008) – defensive end on the Pittsburgh Steelers during their 1970s glory years
* Jimmy F. Williams (b. 1984) – professional football player with the Atlanta Falcons
* Jerod Mayo {b. 1986} - professional football player with the New England Patriots drafted 10th overall in 2008

Newport News

* Antoine Bethea (b. 1984) – professional football player for the Indianapolis Colts
* Larry Bethea (1956-87) – late professional football player for the Dallas Cowboys
* Darryl Blackstock (b. 1983) – professional football player for the Cincinnati Bengals
* Aaron Brooks (b. 1976) – professional football quarterback for the Oakland Raiders, land developer
* Marques Hagans (b. 1982) - NFL Player
* Henry Jordan (1935-77) – professional football player for the Green Bay Packers and member of the Pro Football Hall of Fame
* Leroy Keyes (b. 1947) – professional football running back for the Philadelphia Eagles
* David Macklin (b. 1978) – professional football player for the Washington Redskins
* Norm Snead (b. 1939) – professional football quarterback for the Philadelphia Eagles
* Al Toon (b. 1963) – professional football player for the New York Jets
* Marcus Vick (b. 1984) –NFL player, former quarterback for Virginia Tech
* Michael Vick (b. 1980) – football quarterback for the Philadelphia Eagles

Norfolk


* Plaxico Burress (b. 1977) – professional football wide receiver for the New York Giants
* William Fuller (b. 1962) – professional football defensive end for the Houston Oilers, Philadelphia Eagles and Chicago Bears
* Bruce Smith (b. 1963) – Pro Football Hall of Fame football player for the Buffalo Bills and Washington Redskins
* Joe Smith (b. 1975) – professional basketball player for the Philadelphia 76ers
* Ben Watson (b. 1980) – American Football player for the New England Patriots
* Pernell "Sweet Pea" Whitaker (b. 1964) - boxer; 1984 Olympic gold medalist, professional champion in 4 weight classes
* David Wright (b. 1982) – professional baseball player for the New York Mets.[1]

Portsmouth

* T. J. Jordan (b. 1986) – basketball player
* LaShawn Merritt (b. 1986) – 2008 Olympic Gold Medal winning sprinter
* Ace Parker (b. 1912) – Pro Football Hall of Fame quarterback who also played baseball with the Philadelphia Athletics

Suffolk

* Johnnie Barnes (b. 1968) – Graduate of Hampton University and former football player for the San Diego Chargers and the Pittsburgh Steelers
* Terrence Warren (b. 1969) - former NFL player and All-American sprinter at Hampton University

Virginia Beach


* Ken Barefoot - Former NFL tight end for the Washington Redskins
Bill Bray (b. 1983) – graduate of Ocean Lakes High School. professinal baseball player drafted in the 1st round 13th overall in the 2004 mlb draft by the Montreal Expos; Currently playing for the Cincannati Reds
* Percy Harvin (b. 1988) – Current football player for the Minnesota Vikings
* Brandon Noble (b. 1974) – professional football player for the San Francisco 49ers, Dallas Cowboys, and Washington Redskins
* J.R. Reid (b. 1968) – former professional basketball player
* Mark Reynolds (b. 1983) – professional baseball player
* Aaron Rouse (b.1984) - Professional football player for the Green Bay Packers
* Ryan Zimmerman (b. 1984) – Professional baseball player for the Washington Nationals

Williamsburg


* Mel Gray (b. 1961), professional football player and member of NFL all decade team of 1990s
* Wayne Kirby (b. 1964), Major League Baseball player for the Los Angeles Dodgers and Cleveland Indians
* Ron Springs (b. 1956) – played running back for the Dallas Cowboys and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
* Shawn Springs (b. 1975) – football player for the Washington Redskins
* Lawrence Taylor (b. 1959) – former professional football player for the New York Giants, professional wrestler, and member of the Pro Football Hall of Fame


York County

* Terry Kirby (b. 1970) – professional football player for the Miami Dolphins and Oakland Raiders
* Bryan Randall (b. 1983) – 2005 ACC Football Player of the Year
* Chris Slade (b. 1971) – professional football player for the New England Patriots



It looks like Raleigh if he is still around next year should head to Hampton Roads also...
 
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Roanoke, Va (don't sleep on Roanoke)

O.J. Thomason, William Byrd 7,536 rushing yards (state record)
Lee Suggs, William Fleming, RB Va Tech, Cleveland Browns
JJ Redick, Cave Spring, college bball Duke, NBA Magic
Tiki Barber, Cave Spring, UVA, Giants
Rhonde Barber, Cave Spring, UVA, BUCS
George Lynch, UNC, Sixers
 
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NochNoch said:
That's pretty accurate. The Hampton Roads area is always referenced for talent but that is because of a few absolute freaks throughout the years and some fairly solid talent after that. There seem to be a couple of guys from here every year that make some noise but its not like there are teams with handfulls of D1 level talent.
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Are you serious? Not everyone in this area goes to VT. I refer you to the list in post 23. Just a few make a noise? There 2 1/2 million people in the Hampton Roads or Southside area. Again take a look at the list, more then just a few freaks. Michael Vick had a home in Suffolk, that's where he got caught in the dog fighting thing.
 
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