Why I do not like the Yanks..........

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Fine Vol

Fine Vol

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Does it bother anyone else that they try to buy their wins? They buy the best players but do not get the best results and it makes me :) . If a Marlins team with less than half the payroll can smoke them then $ is not what they should be concentrating on. OK let me have it!!!!!!!!
 
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I don't understand why people dislike the Yankees for spending money but never winning...
 
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What is wrong with trying to get the best players? Better than sitting on your *** and hoping something good happens to you.
 
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If you grew up in the 90s, you just inherently despise teams like the Yankees, Bulls, Florida (for UT fans) or even Jeff Gordon if you happened to be into NASCAR at the time. No reason is needed.
 
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I've kind of come to a realization on this. It's not that I don't dislike the Yankees, I do. But what I dislike mainly is what surrounds them. I dislike the fact that come baseball season, the Yankees are on the sports headlines just about every day for no reason other than they're the Yankees. Fantastic late-season playoff races are happening in the NBA, and A-Rod getting a rubdown on Letterman is somehow more important.

As for the payroll... I wish the MLB would have a salary cap to increase competitiveness, but the owners would never agree to it. Instead of actually trying to build a decent team, the fact that George Steinbrenner is going to spend a sizeable portion of one billion dollars to field a team is going to make them contenders. But, that's the way it works in baseball, and why the major market teams will always have bigger payrolls and thus better teams.
 
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If the Yankees were run by Billy Beane they would win the World Series every single year. They'd probably win 125-130 games a year.

Fortunately, though the Yankees have spent the last ten years trying to build their team by acquiring a bunch of aging all-stars. If they spent all that money on younger players who are just coming into their prime, they'd be unstoppable.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
If the Yankees were run by Billy Beane they would win the World Series every single year. They'd probably win 125-130 games a year.

Fortunately, though the Yankees have spent the last ten years trying to build their team by acquiring a bunch of aging all-stars. If they spent all that money on younger players who are just coming into their prime, they'd be unstoppable.
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Exactly. They've forgotten how to develop their own talent.

Kind of contradictory, though. If they did develop their own talent, they wouldn't have $250 million payrolls.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
If the Yankees were run by Billy Beane they would win the World Series every single year. They'd probably win 125-130 games a year.

Fortunately, though the Yankees have spent the last ten years trying to build their team by acquiring a bunch of aging all-stars. If they spent all that money on younger players who are just coming into their prime, they'd be unstoppable.
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Shhh:ninja:

Don't give Steinbrenner any ideas.
 
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Whether they ended up spending it or not, just the access to that $250m would be a killer in the hands of someone like Beane. They'd scout and develop their own talent, they'd be able to sign literally every single free agent that was coming into his prime that they wanted (e.g., Beltran a few years ago) to long-term deals. They'd then be in a position to turn around and flip those guys just about the time they hit 32 or 33 (and headed into their probable decline) for more prospects. Instead they've been acquiring marquee-name players right at the age they should be dumping them.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
Whether they ended up spending it or not, just the access to that $250m would be a killer in the hands of someone like Beane. They'd scout and develop their own talent, they'd be able to sign literally every single free agent that was coming into his prime that they wanted (e.g., Beltran a few years ago) to long-term deals. They'd then be in a position to turn around and flip those guys just about the time they hit 32 or 33 (and headed into their probable decline) for more prospects. Instead they've been acquiring marquee-name players right at the age they should be dumping them.
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Which, in a way, is rather humorous.
 
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Fine Vol said:
Does it bother anyone else that they try to buy their wins? They buy the best players but do not get the best results and it makes me :) . If a Marlins team with less than half the payroll can smoke them then $ is not what they should be concentrating on. OK let me have it!!!!!!!!
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Fine Vol, seems your stuck in 2005. Join us in 2007.
 
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Well, with Brian Cashman (who is just as good as Beane, just without a book) now in complete control, you are starting to see the yankees contend with their own talent.

Robinson Cano came up last year and for the last 1/3 of the year, after he came back from a hamstring injury, he lead the majors in RBI and batted over .330

Melky Cabrera started for much of last year while Hideki Matsui was out with a broken wrist and filled in with .280 and great fielding.

Jose Tabata should be up next year and is "the next Manny Ramirez" according to many scouts.

Then most baseball fans know about Philip Hughes, who will be up this year. But they also have Tyler Clippard, another stud pitcher who hasn't gotten the publicity but should be a very solid #3 starter.

Chien Ming Wang finished 2nd in the CY Young voting last year and is also homegrown, he is injured right now though.

The Yankees have the talent, they are just recovering from some awful contracts such as Raul Mondesi, Randy Johnson, and Kevin Brown. Once they shed those contracts, and Carl Pavano finally gets completely healthy (and pitches like he did Monday), all of those things will be moot. Unfortunately, Steinbrenner had the reins from 2000-2006, and screwed the Yankees system, but with a real baseball guy in control, the Yankees are on the verge of rebuilding their dynasty like it was from 1996-2000.
 
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tidwell said:
If you grew up in the 90s, you just inherently despise teams like the Yankees, Bulls, Florida (for UT fans) or even Jeff Gordon if you happened to be into NASCAR at the time. No reason is needed.
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Most people don't know that they didn't buy their championships. They bought their teams from 2001-2006. During the 90s, I can accept that you dislike them because they won with great fundamentals, but if you disliked them in the 90s because they spent too much money, then you'd be wrong.
 
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tidwell said:
Which, in a way, is rather humorous.
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Oh, it's definitely great to watch. Unfortunately there are signs they might be wising up -- most notably, Philip Hughes is still in the organization. A few years ago they already would've tried to turn him into somebody like Ken Griffey, and then watched while he blossomed somewhere else. Maybe the Randy Johnson experience finally taught them something, unfortunately.
 
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I'd like A-Rod to opt out of his contract, and the Yankees use that money to sign Johan Santana next year.
 
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UTLCA said:
Well, with Brian Cashman (who is just as good as Beane, just without a book) now in complete control, you are starting to see the yankees contend with their own talent.

Robinson Cano came up last year and for the last 1/3 of the year, after he came back from a hamstring injury, he lead the majors in RBI and batted over .330

Melky Cabrera started for much of last year while Hideki Matsui was out with a broken wrist and filled in with .280 and great fielding.

Jose Tabata should be up next year and is "the next Manny Ramirez" according to many scouts.

Then most baseball fans know about Philip Hughes, who will be up this year. But they also have Tyler Clippard, another stud pitcher who hasn't gotten the publicity but should be a very solid #3 starter.

Chien Ming Wang finished 2nd in the CY Young voting last year and is also homegrown, he is injured right now though.

The Yankees have the talent, they are just recovering from some awful contracts such as Raul Mondesi, Randy Johnson, and Kevin Brown. Once they shed those contracts, and Carl Pavano finally gets completely healthy (and pitches like he did Monday), all of those things will be moot. Unfortunately, Steinbrenner had the reins from 2000-2006, and screwed the Yankees system, but with a real baseball guy in control, the Yankees are on the verge of rebuilding their dynasty like it was from 1996-2000.
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I agree with most everything here, except if you're going to rely on Carl Pavano then your rotation is in trouble
 
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UTLCA said:
The Yankees have the talent, they are just recovering from some awful contracts such as Raul Mondesi, Randy Johnson, and Kevin Brown. Once they shed those contracts, and Carl Pavano finally gets completely healthy (and pitches like he did Monday), all of those things will be moot. Unfortunately, Steinbrenner had the reins from 2000-2006, and screwed the Yankees system, but with a real baseball guy in control, the Yankees are on the verge of rebuilding their dynasty like it was from 1996-2000.
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What do you mean, they're "recovering from some awful contracts"? They can spend as much money as they want. Those contracts aren't hampering them in any way. They were awful contracts, for sure, but it's not like there's any limit to their spending if they want to go get somebody.
 
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UTLCA said:
I'd like A-Rod to opt out of his contract, and the Yankees use that money to sign Johan Santana next year.
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That's another reason I hate the Yankees. Their fans act like the players should pay George just to be a Yankee.
 
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UTLCA said:
I'd like A-Rod to opt out of his contract, and the Yankees use that money to sign Johan Santana next year.
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They can afford to sign him whether Rodriguez opts out of his contract or not, of course. They'll certainly make a run at him.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
They can afford to sign him whether Rodriguez opts out of his contract or not, of course. They'll certainly make a run at him.
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To this and your other quote, the Yankees philosophy has changed. Certainly they have the funds, but they are in the midst of decreasing payroll.
 
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VolinArizona said:
Fine Vol, seems your stuck in 2005. Join us in 2007.
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2003, even.

UTLCA said:
Most people don't know that they didn't buy their championships. They bought their teams from 2001-2006. During the 90s, I can accept that you dislike them because they won with great fundamentals, but if you disliked them in the 90s because they spent too much money, then you'd be wrong.
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I didn't care how they won. They did, and did it a lot in the late 90s, and that made me dislike them. I'm aware of how they did it.
 
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Carolina Panthers, Charlotte Bobcats, Bayern Munich (because they're fun to play with in FIFA)
 
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