Why is it a common expectation of regressing in year 2?

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orange parmejohn said:
I would think much would depend on how well the younger line talent and lbs progress this year. regression is obvious but its early to assume the team will drop off a cliff next year.
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It's funny how you think there is a cliff between us and the bottom.

4 SEC wins in 3 years, 15 wins in 3 years. Hell, we are just a short hop from the bottom as it is.
 
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sjt18 said:
I'm not writing off either one. I think this should be a 7 or 8 win season plus a bowl. I think next year should be a six or 7 win season. I believe if Jones accomplishes this then he will break out in '15.
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I was referring to the OP. Can we focus on '13 and just enjoy this season?
 
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I agree that our d line will be hit hard as will losing AJ at LB...

But I am optimistically confident that we already have the 6th or 7th best OL... As our 2nd team!! Marcus Jackson, Kyler Kerbyson, Dylan Weismann, Mack Crowder, and Alan Posey could hold their own against sec defenses right now. They are gonna be another bigger, stronger, and educated. We gonna whip dey ass
 
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Nashvol2 said:
Uhhmm...so we lose the entire o line and most of the 2 deep on the dline and all of the starting linebackers and your not sure why everyone things we will take a step back?
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We gain more experienced QB, WR, TE, RB, CB, and Safety. Not to mention the 4 and 5 star studs we have verbals from.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
 
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We will be starting like 5 freshmen on D next year. K I'm just pulling numbers out of my ass
 
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sjt18 said:
They'll lose all five starters on the OL, 6 of 8 in the DL two deep, and four of the six at LB assuming Maggitt doesn't have a big year and decide to jump.

The OL will be OK but the D front 7 will be decimated. It will take a complete rebuild.
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i don't believe losing their front 7 on defense is a bad thing. i would not be concerned about losing players in the front 7 who have not, as yet, been able to stop the run, apply pressure to a qb, or cover backs and tight ends.

generally speaking, i believe next year's team will be younger, but more talented across the board. i'll take talent over experience. especially, in the defensive backfield where a speed upgrade is in order.

in addition, most of the guys who will be playing won't have any dooley funk on them that needs to be addressed.

the offense will be better unless this year's back ups on the offensive line are no good. if that's the case, next year will be a problem. but, i assume some of those guys can play, but haven't gotten much of an opportunity because of what's in front of them. the other positions on offense should be improved.

will youth cause problems? yeah.

but, there will be a higher level of talent on the roster in certain positions than what has been there in years.
 
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I don't think we'll regress. The players we have will develop from one year to the next under a good coaching staff. A lot of folks are predicting 5-7 or 6-6 this year. If we regress after that type of year, CBJ will have the hottest seat in the nation coming into year three.
 
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ptclaus98 said:
The only way 2014 is better than 2013 is if there is a metric ton of attrition on other teams in our division.
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While I too expect a serious dip in 2014, I also refuse to underestimate CBJ & Co.'s ability to coach up players.

Now, I don't know if he's doing this but suspect he will if not already. First, notice how Jalen Hurd was sucking oxygen during the recent Beech game? I think CBJ will seek to get high school coaches on board to actively focus recruit targets on their strength and conditioning. That way they come into UT semi-ready and used to the level and amount of work in these areas. Which in turn lightens the workload of the staff in prepping them for that. Additionally, get the coaches to give technique serious attention for the same reasons. A dip is practically certain in 2014, but CBJ is the kind of guy to pull a Saban at the UT. He just might make a liar out of all skeptics.
 
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99gator said:
i have said on a few occasions that i believe tennessee will be better in 2014 than in 2013.

i still believe that.
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I am in agrreance our online may not be as talentednext year but will be a better run game as they are more aaggressive. Qb play should be better. Defense I believe will continue to get better. Let's not kid ourselves we are not world beaters on defense either
 
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2013 and 2014 seasons could sort of mirror the 2010 and 2011 seasons. Before Kiffin bolted for Cali, everyone was predicting that his second season would be tougher than his first season. This looks to be very similar.
 
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We are EE several of these freshman, including J. Hurd. Can you imagine that kid after spring and summer camp, coming into fall, he would be the starter.
 
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Nashvol2 said:
Uhhmm...so we lose the entire o line and most of the 2 deep on the dline and all of the starting linebackers and your not sure why everyone things we will take a step back?
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All the starting LB's? Why would you think Maggitt is going anywhere? Also, the odds are on AJ Johnson being here next year. We lose Sapp and Brewer, but Weatherd is better than both of them right now.

We lose 5 OL, but 4 of those 5 spots will be filled very nicely. LT is obviously the big question mark.

A lot of those players on the DL are just experienced bodies. It won't hurt a ton.

Right now I see our lineup next year as:

QB: Worley/Ferguson
RB: Lane/Hurd/Paulk
TE: Downs/Quinn/Branisel
WR: Howard/Young/Jenkins
WR: North/Lauderdale/Malone
WR: Croom/Smith/Jackson/Harris
RT: Kerbyson/Sanders
RG: Weisman/Kendrick
C: Crowder/
LG: Jackson/Kendrick
LT: ?? Pair or a JUCO OT, hopefully Blair

WDE: Vereen/Lewis/Henderson
SDE: Williams/Miller/Hendrix
DT: Lambert/Carr/Saulsberry
NG: O'Brien/JUCO DT (Hertalou or McDowell)
LB: Maggitt/Bates
LB: Johnson/Harris/Mouhon
LB: Weatherd/Justin King/Gavin Bryant
CB: Coleman/Foreman/Gaulden/Berry
CB: Sutton/Jones/Payne
S: Randolph/Kelly/Orta
S: McNeil/McDowell/Johnson

Obviously we are missing an LT that hopefully will be Blair and the depth on the OL isn't ideal, but that is a much better team than we will have this year. Kerbyson, Jackson, Weisman, and Crowder is a very solid OL group.
 
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Madkins8 said:
All the starting LB's? Why would you think Maggitt is going anywhere? Also, the odds are on AJ Johnson being here next year. We lose Sapp and Brewer, but Weatherd is better than both of them right now.

We lose 5 OL, but 4 of those 5 spots will be filled very nicely. LT is obviously the big question mark.

A lot of those players on the DL are just experienced bodies. It won't hurt a ton.

Right now I see our lineup next year as:

QB: Worley/Ferguson
RB: Lane/Hurd/Paulk
TE: Downs/Quinn/Branisel
WR: Howard/Young/Jenkins
WR: North/Lauderdale/Malone
WR: Croom/Smith/Jackson/Harris
RT: Kerbyson/Sanders
RG: Weisman/Kendrick
C: Crowder/
LG: Jackson/Kendrick
LT: ?? Pair or a JUCO OT, hopefully Blair

WDE: Vereen/Lewis/Henderson
SDE: Williams/Miller/Hendrix
DT: Lambert/Carr/Saulsberry
NG: O'Brien/JUCO DT (Hertalou or McDowell)
LB: Maggitt/Bates
LB: Johnson/Harris/Mouhon
LB: Weatherd/Justin King/Gavin Bryant
CB: Coleman/Foreman/Gaulden/Berry
CB: Sutton/Jones/Payne
S: Randolph/Kelly/Orta
S: McNeil/McDowell/Johnson

Obviously we are missing an LT that hopefully will be Blair and the depth on the OL isn't ideal, but that is a much better team than we will have this year. Kerbyson, Jackson, Weisman, and Crowder is a very solid OL group.
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everyone should be forced to read this post

no reason our Oline wont be fully capable of running this offense in 2014 - we get 1 juco tackle and there just wont be this massive dropoff - at the end of the day you have to create some running lanes and protect the passer and you don't have to be a 1st round pick to do that at the college level

our Dline has gotten no pass rush in years and a freshman (vereen) was slated to start over these seniors at DE - so how losing these guys is going to kill us is beyond me

Dlambert would start now on this Dline, Vereen is a better DE than Jsmith or Cmiller - Jwilliams is better than Walls and Hood just can't be that much better than Dobrien will next year

i mean we are not talking about losing John Henderson here guys
 
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Madkins8 said:
All the starting LB's? Why would you think Maggitt is going anywhere? Also, the odds are on AJ Johnson being here next year. We lose Sapp and Brewer, but Weatherd is better than both of them right now.

We lose 5 OL, but 4 of those 5 spots will be filled very nicely. LT is obviously the big question mark.

A lot of those players on the DL are just experienced bodies. It won't hurt a ton.

Right now I see our lineup next year as:

QB: Worley/Ferguson
RB: Lane/Hurd/Paulk
TE: Downs/Quinn/Branisel
WR: Howard/Young/Jenkins
WR: North/Lauderdale/Malone
WR: Croom/Smith/Jackson/Harris
RT: Kerbyson/Sanders
RG: Weisman/Kendrick
C: Crowder/
LG: Jackson/Kendrick
LT: ?? Pair or a JUCO OT, hopefully Blair

WDE: Vereen/Lewis/Henderson
SDE: Williams/Miller/Hendrix
DT: Lambert/Carr/Saulsberry
NG: O'Brien/JUCO DT (Hertalou or McDowell)
LB: Maggitt/Bates
LB: Johnson/Harris/Mouhon
LB: Weatherd/Justin King/Gavin Bryant
CB: Coleman/Foreman/Gaulden/Berry
CB: Sutton/Jones/Payne
S: Randolph/Kelly/Orta
S: McNeil/McDowell/Johnson

Obviously we are missing an LT that hopefully will be Blair and the depth on the OL isn't ideal, but that is a much better team than we will have this year. Kerbyson, Jackson, Weisman, and Crowder is a very solid OL group.
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Spot on ..... and a second year in the system. People are not giving this staff enough credit as well as the talent we will have
 
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I can see the O line taking a step back, but as far as a huge step I don't see where the panic is coming from Weisman, Kerb have shown a lot of promise. Not to mention, if there's anything I trust this staff to do, it's for sure coaching up offensive linemen.

A lot of the year may depend on if the LB's decide to stay or head for the NFL.

Our CBs and WRs will finally have depth and very talented depth to be honest.

There's a record of SEC coaches having success in their second year and I believe Jones will have some as well
 
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I think we will be improved next year in all areas except the OL and the interior of the DL. This is assuming Johnson and Maggit are here next year.
 
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Catbone said:
Its depressing to know we have to go through a few more years of rebuilding
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It was depressing when our recruiting classes were b***s*** and the lack of cohesiveness on the coaching staff was appalling.

Time to look up.
 
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