Why is Jalin Hyatt not in consideration for the Heisman???

[GBOplayer]

If you compare Jalin's stats compared to previously WR Heisman winners (Devonta Smith and Desmond Howard), his stats compare similarly plus Jalin has already had his Heisman moment with 5 TD's in the biggest game against Alabama....Hendon Hooker deserves to be and should be the favorite to win so far...however, I think Jalin Hyatt should also be mentioned as a finalist candidate at this point as well.

 

[MurphyVol]

Only skill position players that are eligible are Bama players. Last non-Bama non-QB to win was in 2005

 

[VolInDayton]

I think it's because we have had multiple wide receivers that have been the best receiver of the game. If Hyatt keeps it up over the next two weeks he should be invited. I just don't think that will be the case with Tillman back and some of the other WR we have.

 

[butchna]

It’s a full season award. He’s been good from the beginning but not at his recent level.

 

[Lurker]

In the entire 80+ year history of the Heisman only 6 receivers have ever won the award. That includes 2 Tight Ends (one from Yale and one from ND). All the rest are QB's or RB's, except one. Receivers are seldom going to stand out enough, no matter how good they are. They just don't get a comparable number of touches during the games. That is why Woodson still stands out as the only defensive player to ever get the award. And, yes, while he was great, it should have been another guy.

Hell, even the amazing Fred Biletnikoff didn't win the 1964 award. He wasn't even in the top 10 --- but the Vols' Steve Delong was at #8 in the voting. Delong out-polled several other famous vote getters including, Brian Piccolo, Joe Namath and Gale Sayers.

 

[VFL-82-JP]

(a) He should be.

(b) He is.*

(c) He'll never win it, though, it is almost always a QB's award. Unless Peyton is in the mix.

Go Vols!




* 2022 Heisman Odds Tracker: Stroud, Hooker Separating From Field

 

[Arrested Devolopment]

That is why Woodson still stands out as the only defensive player to ever get the award. And, yes, while he was great, it should have been another guy.

Peyton's revenge is that Charles Woodson's name is now an answer to a college football trivia question which involves Peyton's name.

And most people besides Vol fans don't know the answer.

 

[Golfprovol]

In the entire 80+ year history of the Heisman only 6 receivers have ever won the award. That includes 2 Tight Ends (one from Yale and one from ND). All the rest are QB's or RB's, except one. Receivers are seldom going to stand out enough, no matter how good they are. They just don't get a comparable number of touches during the games. That is why Woodson still stands out as the only defensive player to ever get the award. And, yes, while he was great, it should have been another guy.

Howard also returns punts and kickoffs at an elite level

 

[JBVolunteer]

Heisman is a season long popularity contest. Hendon is still trailing because few outside of the SEC East even knew who he was until the Florida win even though a few considered him as a potential candidate in the preseason. Obviously, Hyatt exploded onto the national stage for his performance in the Bama game but Stroud and Young have been hyped too much during the preseason and have ultimately lived up to that hype so far. Unless Stroud and Young have some sort of disastrous showing; Hooker likely finish 3rd. Hyatt’s best opportunity to get into the Heisman conversation is next year.

 

[Lurker]

Heisman is a season long popularity contest. Hendon is still trailing because few outside of the SEC East even knew who he was until the Florida win even though a few considered him as a potential candidate in the preseason. Obviously, Hyatt exploded onto the national stage for his performance in the Bama game but Stroud and Young have been hyped too much during the preseason and have ultimately lived up to that hype so far. Unless Stroud and Young have some sort of disastrous showing; Hooker likely finish 3rd. Hyatt’s best opportunity to get into the Heisman conversation is next year.

If things keep going, do you really think he will still be in college?

 

[VolFanNC09]

There are starting to be rumblings now. He gets through the next 2 games with 150+ yard and multiple TDs and he will definitely be in the top 6 conversation.

 

[VolFanNC09]

If things keep going, do you really think he will still be in college?

If I were him and he played himself into the first round, I would go. If he played himself into the middle rounds, then likely would stay. if him and Tillman both ended up as round 1-3 draft picks, it would really set a precedent going forward on recruiting.

 

[VolPack22]

If he puts up 150+ yards and multiple touchdowns each game the rest of the season he will get an invite. But most people will look at his numbers and think Hooker is directly responsible. It takes a lot for a non-QB to win.

 

[mrmax86]

 

[05_never_again]

It is not a good reason, but the single biggest reason is because it is quite rare for a WR to win the award. Just 2 WRs, Demond Howard and Devonta Smith, have won the award since 1991. It is a QB and RB award. There is a notion, and it isn't always incorrect, that elite performance from a WR is because of his QB. That isn't always the case; for example, I thought Devonta Smith was a totally deserving winner in 2020.

Also, to the rest of the country he exploded onto the scene midseason with the Alabama game. The guy who wins the Heisman is almost always a player who the media identifies before the season as a serious contender for it, and then that player goes on to have a big season. At this point, unless he gets hurt or Ohio St loses multiple games down the stretch, C.J. Stroud is going to win it.

The Heisman Trophy is like those senior superlatives in high school. It goes to the most popular kids, not necessarily the ones who are the best at something.

 

[JBVolunteer]

If things keep going, do you really think he will still be in college?

Turning down guaranteed money isn’t an easy decision but NIL helps us. Knowing that if he does come back next year to be the #1 WR target in this offense, all-American, potential Heisman candidate, etc. Another season would likely vault him into the top 10 for the next draft.

 

[VolPack22]

It is not a good reason, but the single biggest reason is because it is quite rare for a WR to win the award. Just 2 WRs, Demond Howard and Devonta Smith, have won the award since 1991. It is a QB and RB award.

Also, to the rest of the country he exploded onto the scene with the Alabama game. The guy who wins the Heisman is almost always a player who the media identifies before the season as a serious contender for it, and then that player goes on to have a big season. At this point, unless he gets hurt or Ohio St loses multiple games down the stretch, C.J. Stroud is going to win it.

The Heisman Trophy is like those senior superlatives in high school. It goes to the most popular kids, not necessarily the ones who are the best at something.

It will be a slap in the face if they give Hooker the Davey O’Brien Award and then turnaround and give Stroud the Heisman. Sounds like our luck though.

 

[Brave Volunteer]

Peyton's revenge is that Charles Woodson's name is now an answer to a college football trivia question which involves Peyton's name.

And most people besides Vol fans don't know the answer.

Come on now! Woodson had an NFL Hall of Fame career! I know Peyton losing the Heisman sucked but let's not be stupid here.

 

[05_never_again]

It will be a slap in the face if they give Hooker the Davey O’Brien Award and then turnaround and give Stroud the Heisman. Sounds like our luck though.

It'll happen unless Stroud misses significant time or Ohio St loses multiple games down the stretch. He's going to have more TD passes than Hooker (although HH is more likely to add some rushing TDs to close that gap) and a very similar number of passing yards. I don't think it matters to voters that HH will have played a tougher schedule - hell, there are a lot of voters out there who would probably deny that HH played the tougher schedule.

And this is the most important reason (even though it shouldn't be) - Stroud was identified by the media in the preseason as a guy who would be a frontrunner for the award. It isn't a Joe Burrow-type situation where his stats are so far in excess of everybody else that they feel like they have to give it to him. Burrow kind of came out of nowhere to win the Heisman in 2019, but the dude had 60 TDs. They had no choice but to give it to him. If you have 2 guys with comparable numbers, and one of the two guys was more known to voters prior to the season started, then the more known guy will get it.

 

[Fullfillmer]

If you compare Jalin's stats compared to previously WR Heisman winners (Devonta Smith and Desmond Howard), his stats compare similarly plus Jalin has already had his Heisman moment with 5 TD's in the biggest game against Alabama....Hendon Hooker deserves to be and should be the favorite to win so far...however, I think Jalin Hyatt should also be mentioned as a finalist candidate at this point as well.

Well - he is a receiver. Technically you can create a push advocating him - but is he more valuable to a team's success than say the qb at Tenn, Ga, Ala or Ohio State. I don't think he is - just like I thought Peyton should have won it his senior year - as good as Hyatt is, he isn't more valuable to the teams success than HH. Imho.

 

[ReelfootVol]

The Heisman Trophy is a political farce !!!!

 

[Tman44]

And this is the most important reason (even though it shouldn't be) - Stroud was identified by the media in the preseason as a guy who would be a frontrunner for the award. It isn't a Joe Burrow-type situation where his stats are so far in excess of everybody else that they feel like they have to give it to him. Burrow kind of came out of nowhere to win the Heisman in 2019, but the dude had 60 TDs. They had no choice but to give it to him. If you have 2 guys with comparable numbers, and one of the two guys was more known to voters prior to the season started, then the more known guy will get it.

We are tied with 2019 LSU for 3rd best scoring through 7 games with 351 points. Never say never.

 

[uncle chewii]

If he keeps having games like he has been we will have 2 players in the Heisman race. Says something about our coaches and team.

 

[05_never_again]

We are tied with 2019 LSU for 3rd best scoring through 7 games with 351 points. Never say never.

For Heisman purposes though what'll matter is HH's individual stats relative to other players like Stroud, not Tennessee's offensive output overall.

 

[zaqhhh]

For Heisman purposes though what'll matter is HH's individual stats relative to other players like Stroud, not Tennessee's offensive output overall.

It is important to distinguish against Top 25 competition though as well.

Stroud will finish with more TD passes than HH but he needs to be at a significant advantage to overtake HH due to the weakness of OSU's schedule