Why is this team so terrible from the three-point line?

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This stat was taken from ESPN:

# of 3 pointers made: 154

# of 3 pointers attempted: 452

Ohio State is ranked 194th in 3 pointers made which is two positions higher than Tennessee is currently at. What happened to feeding the ball to the big guys?
 
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OP - you know the answers.

The UTAD hired Zo. He has limited offensive design abilities along with the staff he hired.

Zo has not recruited a true, quality PG in his 3 seasons that can run the limited offense he uses to get outside shooters open looks in rhythm.

Zo has not recruited pure shooters. He prefers long, athletic types everywhere like his own physique, except in the paint with his bigs. In that case he prefers football style, space eating players.

Add that all up together and it spells NIT quality. Next season it spells staying at home in the post season.
 
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VolFreakJosh said:
Cuonzo Martin.
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We jacked up way too many 3s under Pearl his last 3 seasons as well though. Not defending CCM, nor dissin' Pearl (who I want back), just sayin. Pearl had a post player who thought he was a #2 guard, jacking up 5-6 3-pt attempts per game.
 
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Crazy Ivan said:
We jacked up way too many 3s under Pearl his last 3 seasons as well though. Not defending CCM, nor dissin' Pearl (who I want back), just sayin. Pearl had a post player who thought he was a #2 guard, jacking up 5-6 3-pt attempts per game.
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To be fair to that post player, he "jacked up" more like 3 3-point attempts per game, and was a career 32% shooter from there. While not great, it would make him our 3rd best shooter on this year's team.

CCM either can't get his team to respect his demands to get the ball to the paint, or he foolishly believes that 28 games into the season, that we are all of a sudden going to start consistently burning up the nets from outside. Either scenario, it falls on him.
 
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Well this is the 2nd best 3 point shooting team we've had since 2008......
 
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During the game, Coach Martin does not press the guards to get the ball inside to Stokes .. second half Missouri and Texas A&M...Thompson shoots 3 point shots.. scared.. Barton loses confidence quickly.. Richardson does not take enough shots.. Moore throws up bricks. McRae shoots a lot of wild shots...Bench nonexistent except Reese blue moon 3 pointers. Hubbs injured did not pan out as 3 pointshooter...That's why team shoots so poorly...
 
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cncchris33 said:
To be fair to that post player, he "jacked up" more like 3 3-point attempts per game, and was a career 32% shooter from there. While not great, it would make him our 3rd best shooter on this year's team.

CCM either can't get his team to respect his demands to get the ball to the paint, or he foolishly believes that 28 games into the season, that we are all of a sudden going to start consistently burning up the nets from outside. Either scenario, it falls on him.
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True, but I believe that was his average over his career at UT. His senior season it seemed he was taking about as many shots from behind the arc as he was within the paint. And don't get me wrong, he was not a bad 3-pt shooter for a big man, but I'm just not sure Pearl was designing that many plays for his post player to be shooting 3s. I'm sure it was a lot of "No! No! No! Oh, ok, he made it" on Pearl's part when Wheezy was firing them up. When Pearl had Lofton and JJ his first 3 years at UT I could understand taking as many 3s as the team took. But Pearl's last 3 seasons I remember fans, which included myself, complaining that the wings did not work hard enough to get the ball inside to the post but were instead settling for too many 3s. That's all I'm saying. It's not just a problem that CCM has had.
 
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Crazy Ivan said:
True, but I believe that was his average over his career at UT. His senior season it seemed he was taking about as many shots from behind the arc as he was within the paint. And don't get me wrong, he was not a bad 3-pt shooter for a big man, but I'm just not sure Pearl was designing that many plays for his post player to be shooting 3s. I'm sure it was a lot of "No! No! No! Oh, ok, he made it" on Pearl's part when Wheezy was firing them up. When Pearl had Lofton and JJ his first 3 years at UT I could understand taking as many 3s as the team took. But Pearl's last 3 seasons I remember fans, which included myself, complaining that the wings did not work hard enough to get the ball inside to the post but were instead settling for too many 3s. That's all I'm saying. It's not just a problem that CCM has had.
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Senior year he was 35 of 108 behind the arc for 32.4% which equates to a 48.6% 2 point basket percentage - not great but not bad. It seemed like his 3 pointers made were usually at an important point in a close game though.
 
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Reese needs to go, that guys wearing on me big time, sorry Krager.

He doesn't bring much to the table if he's not hitting shots, and right now he's got no problem shooting, but he has a big problem hitting them. And mother of god, it has to be the slowest, ugliest line drive shot I've ever seen.

/rant
 
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BadJerry20 said:
Ummm because we can't shoot?
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Air ball by air ball !!! Brick by Brick!!!!

Brick by Brick in football is good, it means you are building a foundation for things to come.

Brick by Brick in basketball is not good, it means you are missing the basket.
 
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Crazy Ivan said:
True, but I believe that was his average over his career at UT. His senior season it seemed he was taking about as many shots from behind the arc as he was within the paint. And don't get me wrong, he was not a bad 3-pt shooter for a big man, but I'm just not sure Pearl was designing that many plays for his post player to be shooting 3s. I'm sure it was a lot of "No! No! No! Oh, ok, he made it" on Pearl's part when Wheezy was firing them up. When Pearl had Lofton and JJ his first 3 years at UT I could understand taking as many 3s as the team took. But Pearl's last 3 seasons I remember fans, which included myself, complaining that the wings did not work hard enough to get the ball inside to the post but were instead settling for too many 3s. That's all I'm saying. It's not just a problem that CCM has had.
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Not to berate the issue, because I know it's not your actual point, but Chism averaged 2.91 attempts/game as a SR. 3.76 as a JR, 2.5 as a SO, and 2.25 as a FR.

As for the gameplan, it seemed as if a lot (probably more than half) of his attempts came as the trailer in transition from the top of the key. I think that actually was part of Pearl's gameplan, and he was absolutely fine with Chism taking that shot at just about any point in the game. We don't do that now, because we are, bar none, the worst transition team (offense and defense) in the league. We don't have a big man capable of making that shot consistently, even if we did get out in transition offensively.
 
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golfballs said:
Well this is the 2nd best 3 point shooting team we've had since 2008......
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I agree, but we haven't been what I would call a "good" 3-point shooting team since Lofton and J. Smith graduated. By "good", I mean accurate as well as disciplined (knowing the difference in a good and bad shot).
 
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You tend to attempt more 3s when you run a half court set. This team doesn't run

Additionally we face a lot of zone and we try to shoot out of it.
 
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cncchris33 said:
Not to berate the issue, because I know it's not your actual point, but Chism averaged 2.91 attempts/game as a SR. 3.76 as a JR, 2.5 as a SO, and 2.25 as a FR.

As for the gameplan, it seemed as if a lot (probably more than half) of his attempts came as the trailer in transition from the top of the key. I think that actually was part of Pearl's gameplan, and he was absolutely fine with Chism taking that shot at just about any point in the game. We don't do that now, because we are, bar none, the worst transition team (offense and defense) in the league. We don't have a big man capable of making that shot consistently, even if we did get out in transition offensively.
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Then I stand corrected. And I do agree that the current Vols are the worst transition team in the league, on both O and D.
 
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cncchris33 said:
I agree, but we haven't been what I would call a "good" 3-point shooting team since Lofton and J. Smith graduated. By "good", I mean accurate as well as disciplined (knowing the difference in a good and bad shot).
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Right. Not exactly a new development. We haven't had a shooter since they left. Pearl never recruited or developed one, and Cuonzo hasn't either.

Richardson has the best percentage on this team but that's because he typically takes smart shots. We need to try to get him more open looks from time to time.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Reese needs to go, that guys wearing on me big time, sorry Krager.

He doesn't bring much to the table if he's not hitting shots, and right now he's got no problem shooting, but he has a big problem hitting them. And mother of god, it has to be the slowest, ugliest line drive shot I've ever seen.

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I agree, strangely. Reese has been making me sad to watch. Not sure what happened to his shot and his defense has been mediocre at best. Like I've always said, I think Reese has good upside to be a solid 4-year player. He's still only a sophomore, but for now I'd rather see Edwards instead of Reese.
 
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I thought Reese showed decent potential early on, but has gotten worse... At least then he was good for some rebounds.

Our depth (or lack thereof) is just brutal
 
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you don't develop shooters. You recruit shooters and find a way to get them shots. Somebody will point to jrich but he's still a slasher that can now hit the 3. I'm talking about shooters whose roles are to find open space and shoot.
 
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golfballs said:
Right. Not exactly a new development. We haven't had a shooter since they left. Pearl never recruited or developed one, and Cuonzo hasn't either.

Richardson has the best percentage on this team but that's because he typically takes smart shots. We need to try to get him more open looks from time to time.
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I agree. If McRae had Richardson's shot discipline, he'd be a better player. Richardson isn't afraid to pass up an outside look to drive into the paint, where he has one of the best midrange games in recent memory. McRae settles for bad, contested shots too often and too early.
 
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