Why? Keyton/Tillman

[tone357]

Looking at Pro Football Focus' website. they show that Tillman played in 6 games and was thrown to 59 times. Keyton played in 12 games, and was thrown to only 43 times. Why the wide discrepancy? Seems like Keyton has produced when called upon.

 

[RiseToTheTop]

Looking at Pro Football Focus' website. they show that Tillman played in 6 games and was thrown to 59 times. Keyton played in 12 games, and was thrown to only 43 times. Why the wide discrepancy? Seems like Keyton has produced when called upon.

bc we have lots of good receivers

 

[volsfan24017]

Seemed like Tillman demanded the ball when he was in. Instead of letting it come his way naturally.

 

[Dadof2Vols]

My opinion is that Tillman appeared to be Hooker’s Preferred receiver. Once he went down, Hooker appeared to learn to trust more people and began spreading the throws to more receivers.

 

[wmcovol]

Tillman played earlier in the season when Hooker was more comfortable getting him the ball. Bru had been on campus a month or so.

PFF isn’t what some of you read into it.

 

[tone357]

Tillman played earlier in the season when Hooker was more comfortable getting him the ball. Bru had been on campus a month or so.

PFF isn’t what some of you read into it.

Then why all NFL teams customers as well as all major colleges? Do you know more about it than they do? Please enlighten us.

 

[VolPack22]

20 of those were in the Pitt game. Tillman is a stud when healthy so it makes sense to throw him the ball often.

 

[tone357]

20 of those were in the Pitt game. Tillman is a stud when healthy so it makes sense to throw him the ball often.

That answers my question. Thanks.

 

[wmcovol]

Then why all NFL teams customers as well as all major colleges? Do you know more about it than they do? Please enlighten us.

I never claimed to know more but when Beasley, clearly the best player on the field Friday night, didn’t score well, they’ve got problems.

 

[Vol8188]

Seemed like Tillman demanded the ball when he was in. Instead of letting it come his way naturally.

Early candidate for dumbest post of the year.

 

[tone357]

I never claimed to know more but when Beasley, clearly the best player on the field Friday night, didn’t score well, they’ve got problems.

You're looking at one aspect of their grading and ignoring the many other categories. One stat doesn't tell the tale.

 

[Vol8188]

Tillman played earlier in the season when Hooker was more comfortable getting him the ball. Bru had been on campus a month or so.

PFF isn’t what some of you read into it.

Pff is 100% amazing. You’re partially correct about your top comment, but we still throw to the right more than the left even with Tillman out. It may be by design (maybe that’s where you put your best guy in this offense), it may be what Hooker was more comfortable with (a lot of QBs throw better to one side than the other)

 

[tone357]

Early candidate for dumbest post of the year.

I'm not going to use the word "dumb". But I don't think demanding the ball works at this level, or any level of football.

 

[Vol8188]

I'm not going to use the word "dumb". But I don't think demanding the ball works at this level, or any level of football.

O it’s dumb. It attacks Tillman’s character without cause. The poster is pretending the guy who literally just came in to block early in his career is actually a deeply selfish player.

 

[Carp]

Then why all NFL teams customers as well as all major colleges? Do you know more about it than they do? Please enlighten us.

PFF is useful, but it isn't the Bible. They miss a ton of stuff in their evaluations. It's even more difficult to try to evaluate on the college level due to vastly different offenses and talent levels.

One of the main problems with PFF is they have no way of accounting for what assignments a player has on a particular play or if someone else missed their assignment that caused you to be in a vulnerable spot.

 

[wmcovol]

You're looking at one aspect of their grading and ignoring the many other categories. One stat doesn't tell the tale.

Evidently you weren’t intelligent enough to realize the games Tillman played & when they were played to support the reason for the disparity. Keep following PFF.

 

[volsfan24017]

Early candidate for dumbest post of the year.

Sorry you feel that way.

 

[TatudVol]

Then why all NFL teams customers as well as all major colleges? Do you know more about it than they do? Please enlighten us.

Eric Cain talks about this every Tuesday. PFF gives out grades based on performance only. They have no clue what the player's assignment is for each play. They are simply going by the eye test from each play. Eric even says to take the grades as you will. They are not the end all be all. Take the Orange Bowl for example. Beasley played lights out and only had a grade of around 60 I believe. I thought it should have been much higher.

 

[TMvol10]

Seemed like Tillman demanded the ball when he was in. Instead of letting it come his way naturally.

Don’t think Tillman demanded the ball. Hooker looked to him way too often. He was Hooker’s comfort zone. He’d force it to Tillman sometimes instead of scanning the field.

 

[perico]

When healthy, Tillman was our best WR. He's still projected to go in the first two rounds of the NFL Draft on a number of highly thought of mock drafts.

 

[Majors]

Looking at Pro Football Focus' website. they show that Tillman played in 6 games and was thrown to 59 times. Keyton played in 12 games, and was thrown to only 43 times. Why the wide discrepancy? Seems like Keyton has produced when called upon.

Keyton was also playing the reserve role the games Tillman was in.

 

[Preyed_On]

Seemed like Tillman demanded the ball when he was in. Instead of letting it come his way naturally.

Good lord. The conclusions some of you jump to are completely idiotic. It’s like you just look for reasons to bash someone’s character.

“Oh ced had more targets than Keyton… well he’s obviously a drama queen who is all about himself… that’s the only possible answer”

Yeah alright, you know everything

 

[volsfan24017]

Good lord. The conclusions some of you jump to are completely idiotic. It’s like you just look for reasons to bash someone’s character.



“Oh ced had more targets than Keyton… well he’s obviously a drama queen who is all about himself… that’s the only possible answer”



Yeah alright, you know everything

Never said I did. Read more carefully. I just said it seemed. Never said I was right.

Good Lord, this is why I don't post that much anymore. A person gives their opinion, and it's Game On! Lol! Smh....

 

[TNinSC]

experience? Tillman was a vet. Bigger and stronger. Got open more. Also, the stat is getting into a game. It doesn't say time or amount of plays. before tillman got hurt, keyton couldve gone in for like one or two snaps in those games.

 

[Daniel_Lincolns_Foot]

Keyton did what a great role player is supposed to do: made the play when he got in the game. I still think back to his diving catch against Florida that allowed the drive at the end of the half to keep going--which ended in a TD.

In my opinion maybe the most important play of the season.