Why so quiet in victory?

#27
#27
Some of the defensive lapses and offensive standing around were from not playing with each other sufficiently. Getting a unit playing together is essential. The five player substitution in the late first quarter was initially not functioning well. And I felt that as well as they pushed the ball up the floor players didn't spot up in open areas immediately against the zone.

I can easily argue the importance of having such a game this early, more can be learned than from playing the exhibition and Central Arkansas.
 
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Martic said:
You know people complain about watching women's basketball..and what do they bring in rules that make it hard to watch. All the fouls really slow down the action and detract from the game. I have been a long time supporter of women's sports and I found this game so hard to watch!!! I won't blame it all on the fouls because the turnovers were awful too!!!
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If this game is indicative of things to come on the ref front (and let us hope it is not), then having a deep bench is going to be even more important. These new, no contact, rules would seem to guarantee that players will be in foul trouble and hence teams will have to go deeper in their bench on a routine basis. While i can undertstand the rationale for cutting back on hand checking, this stricter no bump rule seems very counterproductive.
 
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I Have to be honest. It's just not the same without Pat. I'm sure CHW is a great person and coach but part of the appeal was Pat at court side. I miss it. I miss the stare. I miss the passion and fire. I will always pull for the LV but it changed for me after Pat.
 
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Different things are learned from different quality of opponents. The advantage of an exhibition game is it gives you a chance to try out some things without actually having to care about the score at all. The game against a team like Central Arkansas pitch you against a better opponent but still one you don't expect to worry much about the score, see can try out different schemes. Too many easy opponents and players can take shortcuts and learned bad habits you need to have some challenging opponents early on as well. The nice thing about the relatively large number of games (as opposed to football) is that you can have a variety of different types of opponents and again unlike football, suffer a loss without ending your season (assuming you have a legitimate goal of a national championship).
 
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madtownvol said:
If this game is indicative of things to come on the ref front (and let us hope it is not), then having a deep bench is going to be even more important. These new, no contact, rules would seem to guarantee that players will be in foul trouble and hence teams will have to go deeper in their bench on a routine basis. While i can undertstand the rationale for cutting back on hand checking, this stricter no bump rule seems very counterproductive.
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The problem is that it's taken a complete prohibition against the bumps to try to stop the holding, shoving, grabbing, mauling, and outright assault near the basket that's become horrible over the past decade.
 
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JohnStL said:
Some of the defensive lapses and offensive standing around were from not playing with each other sufficiently. Getting a unit playing together is essential. The five player substitution in the late first quarter was initially not functioning well. And I felt that as well as they pushed the ball up the floor players didn't spot up in open areas immediately against the zone.

I can easily argue the importance of having such a game this early, more can be learned than from playing the exhibition and Central Arkansas.
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We never subbed 5 players at once, never happened. We did sub 3 late in the first quarter.
 
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FrozenLVFan said:
The problem is that it's taken a complete prohibition against the bumps to try to stop the holding, shoving, grabbing, mauling, and outright assault near the basket that's become horrible over the past decade.
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Not even mentioning the injuries some of the players are getting!
 
#36
#36
The rule changes are baffling unless you're a fan of free throws and more commercial breaks. Personally, I'm not. Let the talented young women play, please. BB is a physical sport, let it be.

You'd think the powers-that-be would be doing everything to make the game more entertaining to attract more fans. I fear their tinkering and changes will result in the opposite.

Hoping Holly settles on less substitutions and less playing time for Carter and Jones tonight. Give Dunbar more minutes, especially when Russelll and Bash are on the floor.
 
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Holding, shoving and grabbing are different from bumping. Holding and shoving and grabbing should be called fouls, but not leaning on someone with your body or bumping them a bit. I'm all for calling some of the egregious stuff--and big players like Russell and many others have taken a beating over the years, so if the new rules help the bigs a bit, I'm fine with it. But don't get carried away. A lot of times, officials start the year enforcing rules (or new rules) strongly and then ease up (either intentionally or otherwise) as the season moves along.
 
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Chitownvol1129 said:
We never subbed 5 players at once, never happened. We did sub 3 late in the first quarter.
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We subbed four in the first quarter; Mercedes was the only one who stayed in. IIRCC we already had several fouls which may have impacted that decision. Funny thing though is, right after that, the balder male ref went crazy with his foul calling. Almost like he didn't approve of mass substitutions, or he didn't like girls who got a lot of hype (Te'a and Diamond). Of course he may just have been doing the best he could....:eek:hmy:.
 
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armchair said:
Holding, shoving and grabbing are different from bumping. Holding and shoving and grabbing should be called fouls, but not leaning on someone with your body or bumping them a bit. I'm all for calling some of the egregious stuff--and big players like Russell and many others have taken a beating over the years, so if the new rules help the bigs a bit, I'm fine with it. But don't get carried away. A lot of times, officials start the year enforcing rules (or new rules) strongly and then ease up (either intentionally or otherwise) as the season moves along.
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Trouble with that, AC, is they were allowing the mugging of the big bodies in the paint while calling brush fouls on the perimeter. Mercedes and Bash took beatings, maybe we gave out some too and it didn't show as much because we didn't have comparable "big bodies". Penn was BIG and rough. I wish rule changes would help the bigs from taking beatings, always scared someone will get hurt. It may have just been that ref crew and not indicative of future crews. Hope so.
 
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The foul touches on the perimeter I believe are called in hopes of allowing for free-flowing movement of players. Sounds fine in theory I guess but the officials are so inconsistent calling it and couple that with the mugging of post players coupled with the beating a player takes getting a rebound and a touch foul on the perimeter just seems silly.

Honestly I sometimes think they'd be better off declaring that you can't touch anybody for any reason ever or it's a foul. No touching, holding, shoving, leaning, hand-checking, anything. Nada.

Maybe the shooting percentages would go up then and there would be higher scores.

Of course I'm joking. Sort of.
 
#43
#43
There was a time in basketball that you could use your body to guard just as long as you didn't use your hands. You could move your feet and bump with the body as long as it was body contact. Now they are calling this and of course hand checking. I think hand checking unless very physical should be allowed. I mean barley touching someones arm or their little finger is a bit ridiculous.
 
#44
#44
Still trying to figure this team out...Defense, Rebounds and good guard play win championships. Hmmmmm
 
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