Why the hell should America listen to the right

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615 Vol said:
That was when Mccain was a liberal. He is a conservative now.

I'm curious to how people will react, if he wins, and goes back to his liberal ways? If he doesn't need the base to get elected don't you think he will go back to what he truly believes in? What happened to the John Mccain that Ann Coulter said she would not vote for and the Mccain that Rush Limbaugh spent so much time dogging out not too long ago? Will he re-appear or is he sold on being more conservative the rest of his life?
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if mccain does a bunch of liberal stuff, such as immigration reform, he'll heart it from the right. as he did when they tried to pass that bill. unlike democrat sheep, if there is a bill that the evil right doesn't like, we'll make it known.
 
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nickknx865 said:
That.

That right there.


That pisses me off more than anything that the right wing neo-cons do most. Using Obama's middle name as some kind of insult, is a right tactic, that I find offensive, and having overtones of being racist towards anybody of Muslim faith.
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oh really what about the neo leftist-anti-American calling our troops murders and comparing then to nazis. you want to talk about racist, your socialist/democratic party is the most racist. it is your party that must have racial divide to exist. Jerk.
 
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volinbham said:
I don't remember the October 2000 elections :)

Using your logic, we certainly shouldn't listen to the left - the party that has put forward Gore (no choice since he was VP), Kerry (a complete tool), Pelosi and Reid (two complete political hacks). Now they are giving us a first term Senator with less experience than any presidential candidate ever in modern history.

Yes, by all means we should listen to the left.:crazy:
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Where to begin Gore or Kerry(whom never beat Obama in primary elections) were never president but I'd say they are a hell of alot more popular than Bush. I as with more than 95% of the democrats in this country have never voted for Pelosi or Reid. Now we are giving you Obama so you can use that one as far as experience it appears it is highly overrated considering how much the right screamed how experienced Bush was by being governor of the second most populated state and look how that turned out (hell I'll show you). Bush: Job Ratings
And before you mention congress's approval rating's I'll preemptively shoot that down cause those are meaningless polls unless they are taking polls now asking in each district whether they as in the residents of that distinct district approve of their representive or not then average all those numbers out (hell it's absolutely meaningless that I think Mitch Mcconnell is a total douchebag cause the people in KY will continue to put him in office) Now if they polled congressional approval like that then it means something(and the approval numbers would easily shoot up above 50%) otherwise it's useless.:thumbsup:
 
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DAVOL said:
Where to begin Gore or Kerry(whom never beat Obama in primary elections) were never president but I'd say they are a hell of alot more popular than Bush. I as with more than 95% of the democrats in this country have never voted for Pelosi or Reid. Now we are giving you Obama so you can use that one as far as experience it appears it is highly overrated considering how much the right screamed how experienced Bush was by being governor of the second most populated state and look how that turned out (hell I'll show you). Bush: Job Ratings
And before you mention congress's approval rating's I'll preemptively shoot that down cause those are meaningless polls unless they are taking polls now asking in each district whether they as in the residents of that distinct district approve of their representive or not then average all those numbers out (hell it's absolutely meaningless that I think Mitch Mcconnell is a total douchebag cause the people in KY will continue to put him in office) Now if they polled congressional approval like that then it means something(and the approval numbers would easily shoot up above 50%) otherwise it's useless.:thumbsup:
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since the President isn't elected by popular vote, job approval ratings for him don't amount to a hill of beans either
 
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MG1968 said:
since the President isn't elected by popular vote, job approval ratings for him don't amount to a hill of beans either
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Oh on the contrary cause it damn sure is having an effect on this campaign otherwise Mccain would be begging Bush to hit the campaign trail with him.:good!:
 
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DAVOL said:
Oh on the contrary cause it damn sure is having an effect on this campaign otherwise Mccain would be begging Bush to hit the campaign trail with him.:good!:
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I don't recall Clinton hitting the campaign trail for Gore in 2000, so I'm not reading anything into Bush not out there for McCain.
 
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MG1968 said:
I don't recall Clinton hitting the campaign trail for Gore in 2000, so I'm not reading anything into Bush not out there for McCain.
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Big difference. If Gore WOULD have let Clinton campaign for him, he would have won, hands down. Clinton, despite the right's continuous unnecessary investigations of him, left office with a 60% approval rating. Gore distanced himself from Clinton because he thought the character issues might hurt him...big mistake. Bush, on the other hand, garners ZERO support and has less than a 40% approval rating. Last thing McCain wants is Bush campaigning for him.
 
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MG1968 said:
I don't recall Clinton hitting the campaign trail for Gore in 2000, so I'm not reading anything into Bush not out there for McCain.
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Most Democrats realize how big of a mistake that was especially looking at this
Clinton: Job Ratings
boy I had forgotten that presidents could actually get numbers like that 8 years is a long time.
 
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kptvol said:
Having a prejudice toward Muslims is not a form of racism. Besides, I think the intent is to link Obama to a completely anti-American nutjob leader.
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I can see how it would work, but most knowlegable people can tell otherwise.

KYVolFan said:
:shades:We are definitely opposites politically my friend, but a Neocon I am not. Birth Date =1944. I have come to respect Neocons about as much as you have your Putrefactiveliberal friends.:alien: Putrefactiveliberalism has been defined elsewhere in the politics forum but it is closely associated with Neocommunism, Neosocialism and other pseudo and near normals that seen to populate and rule your political party. :alien::alien::alien:
I didn't give Barrack Hussein Obama his three arabic/islamic names my friend, his mother and father did but I promise to not get upset by you being ashamed of their name selections. As I understand it, B.H.O was born in to an Atheist/Islamic Family and raised in Islamic schools during his early childhood.
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Yes, it is true that Obama was in Islamic schools in his childhood, but he also went to Catholic and Baptist schools as well.

No, I am not a "Putrefactiveliberal", or anything that has to do with the word liberal. I'm not even really a liberal, as I am a moderate on most things.

Our party doesn't seek to make everything state owned, as some would have you belive. We just like a little more government intervention in some things.

joevol320 said:
oh really what about the neo leftist-anti-American calling our troops murders and comparing then to nazis. you want to talk about racist, your socialist/democratic party is the most racist. it is your party that must have racial divide to exist. Jerk.
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Where, in any part of history, has my, "neo-leftist" party called our fine men and women serving overseas as "murders and nazis?" Where? This is the first time I've ever seen or heard of such crazy accusations.

And to call my party racist, the party that lobbies for civil rights and equality, to call them racist, is well, I..........I don't know how to respond to that.

This might very well be the craziest thing ever said on this forum.
 
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truefan said:
Big difference. If Gore WOULD have let Clinton campaign for him, he would have won, hands down. Clinton, despite the right's continuous unnecessary investigations of him, left office with a 60% approval rating. Gore distanced himself from Clinton because he thought the character issues might hurt him...big mistake. Bush, on the other hand, garners ZERO support and has less than a 40% approval rating. Last thing McCain wants is Bush campaigning for him.
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I agree 100 percent. Gore should have used Clinton, he knows that now.
 
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nickknx865 said:
And to call my party racist, the party that lobbies for civil rights and equality, to call them racist, is well, I..........I don't know how to respond to that.

This might very well be the craziest thing ever said on this forum.
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Let me go ahead and give you an answer you would likely see on here.
Robert Byrd was in the kkk and he is a democrat.
For some reason they never bother to put the years he was in the kkk so I will 30s and 40s.
 
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kptvol said:
Do most knowledgeable people think Islam is a race?
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Do most knowledgeable people think that someones name should disqualify someone from being president cause that is the feeling I continually get from kyvol and joevol.
 
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truefan said:
Big difference. If Gore WOULD have let Clinton campaign for him, he would have won, hands down. Clinton, despite the right's continuous unnecessary investigations of him, left office with a 60% approval rating. Gore distanced himself from Clinton because he thought the character issues might hurt him...big mistake. Bush, on the other hand, garners ZERO support and has less than a 40% approval rating. Last thing McCain wants is Bush campaigning for him.
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I agree that McCain does not want Bush campaigning for him and one of his biggest obstacles is distancing himself from the current administration. If Gore really wouldn't let Clinton campaign for him, then he made a huge mistake and got the defeat that he deserved.

Lastly, regarding your remark about the GOP's investigations of Clinton, I guess you would also agree that Scooter Libby got a raw deal.
 
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DAVOL said:
Let me go ahead and give you an answer you would likely to see on here.
Robert Byrd was in the kkk and he is a democrat.
For some reason they never bother to put the years he was in the kkk so I will 30s and 40s.
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I don't think they are racist so much as they are using race to a political means.
 
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Polls might be garbage but the daily polls today are on Realclearpolitics.com and they have moved Georgia from solid McCain to leans McCain. That's not good news for McCain when a southern red state turns pink.
 
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jcwvolfan said:
I agree that McCain does not want Bush campaigning for him and one of his biggest obstacles is distancing himself from the current administration. If Gore really wouldn't let Clinton campaign for him, then he made a huge mistake and got the defeat that he deserved.

Lastly, regarding your remark about the GOP's investigations of Clinton, I guess you would also agree that Scooter Libby got a raw deal.
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You're right Libby got a raw deal it should have been Cheney needing a pardon.
 
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615 Vol said:
Polls might be garbage but the daily polls today are on Realclearpolitics.com and they have moved Georgia from solid McCain to leans McCain. That's not good news for McCain when a southern red state turns pink.
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No chance Obama carries Georgia and he knows it. He pulled out of the state last week.
 
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The thing that is going to be interesting about Florida is seeing just how accurate the polls are there. There's a good chance for some serious Tom Bradley effect down there.
 
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GAVol said:
No chance Obama carries Georgia and he knows it. He pulled out of the state last week.
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I agree that Obama doesn't have a chance in Georgia but that's all the more bad news for McCain that it's close there.
 
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