Will Butch Bring the Spread With Him?

#26
#26
No spread. We need to get back to running our pro style offense where we actually fun the ball. Bringing the spread in will be the first mistake
 
#27
#27
The spread is NOT a fad offense. I didn't like it for a long time--felt it was gimmicky, but most teams in the country run it now, and yes, it gives teams with lesser talent a better chance to win. It's basically a modern twist on the wishbone--with more passing options. We probably should go to the spread. At the least, we damn sure need a freakin' QB who can run some. I'm SICK of Bray and QBs who cannot run.

Here's one big problem for Jones--we are going to be TERRIBLE on offense next year. We will have NO proven wide-receivers--zero--and our offensive line will not be as good as this year's. And our defense isn't going to be very good either.
 
#28
#28
Someone tell Texas A&M they can't run the Spread in the SEC please. I don't think they realize that. :zeitung_lesen:
 
#30
#30
WE will run the spread.

Since we are in a postion were we cannot recruit the top players at every positon it gives us the best oppurtunity to win faster without as many top level players.

It really makes the o-line not as important because its all about angles and getting blocks on guys where you have leverage. So even without top notch lineman you can sucessful.
 
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tnmarktx said:
We actually ran a pro style out of spread formations this year.
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And I think Tennessee fans can jump on board a mix of both and really a pro style offense is already a mix of both. There are spread components in a pro style offense. I don't mind running a little read option if we get that mobile qb.
 
#36
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ibvolman said:
Not sure I want to see another spread experiment. Does anyone remember Dave Clawson?

I guess I'm just old and set in my ways, but I just really enjoy watching a pro-style smash mouth team.
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Yea. He has a very good program at Bowling Green and may be the net coach at Wisconsin.
 
#40
#40
Clawson didn't run the spread here. I don't know exactly what the Clawfence was--except the worst offense we've ever had, which I didn't think possible after the Sanders years. And now we've got our worst defense ever.
 
#41
#41
Oklahoma State alum here. Registered when it looked like y'all were going after Gundy. My first post.

The spread does NOT need a mobile QB. Look at Brandon Weeden last year for OSU. He was anything but moble. Accurate passer-YES. Rocket arm-Yes. But mobile-not hardly.

Can it be run better with a mobile QB-Yes. But if you have a very good RB then you can rely on an accurate passer and march down the field.

What makes the spread work is a QB that can release the ball fast and get it to a speedy WR or Slot Receiver. Example: Last year for OSU....Weeden to Justin Blackman.

The other thing that works for the spread is the alignment of the O-line. Where with the I or Power formations you see the O-lineman's feet within a few inches of each other and subsequently the D-linemen will head up on these folks and bingo you have a crowded interior. With the spread you often see O-linemen that will line up as far as 3 feet from each other. This makes the D-linemen have to head up on them or run the risk of getting blocked down (away) from a sweep or off-tackle play. Plus it makes the D-linemen have to run further (read: be further away) to get to the QB.

I personally think that the Spread could and should work well in the SEC. With the right folks in place it can be a very explosive offense. The problem with us (in the Big 12) is that our defense's have to try and stop that. When you have the right combination (ie. Weeden-Blackman last year) the D gets run ragged.

Oh, and for what it is worth, if you think it is pass only: OSU has had the top Running Back in the Big 12 for the last 6 years straight.....and all of them with over 1000 yds each year.
 
#42
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MemphisPoke said:
Oklahoma State alum here. Registered when it looked like y'all were going after Gundy. My first post.

The spread does NOT need a mobile QB. Look at Brandon Weeden last year for OSU. He was anything but moble. Accurate passer-YES. Rocket arm-Yes. But mobile-not hardly.

Can it be run better with a mobile QB-Yes. But if you have a very good RB then you can rely on an accurate passer and march down the field.

What makes the spread work is a QB that can release the ball fast and get it to a speedy WR or Slot Receiver. Example: Last year for OSU....Weeden to Justin Blackman.

The other thing that works for the spread is the alignment of the O-line. Where with the I or Power formations you see the O-lineman's feet within a few inches of each other and subsequently the D-linemen will head up on these folks and bingo you have a crowded interior. With the spread you often see O-linemen that will line up as far as 3 feet from each other. This makes the D-linemen have to head up on them or run the risk of getting blocked down (away) from a sweep or off-tackle play. Plus it makes the D-linemen have to run further (read: be further away) to get to the QB.

I personally think that the Spread could and should work well in the SEC. With the right folks in place it can be a very explosive offense. The problem with us (in the Big 12) is that our defense's have to try and stop that. When you have the right combination (ie. Weeden-Blackman last year) the D gets run ragged.

Oh, and for what it is worth, if you think it is pass only: OSU has had the top Running Back in the Big 12 for the last 6 years straight.....and all of them with over 1000 yds each year.
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We don't have a mobile quarterback or a good running back. So you're saying we're ****ed.
 
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SandoVOL said:
We don't have a mobile quarterback or a good running back. So you're saying we're ****ed.
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Recruitment, Recruitment, Recruitment.

Gundy was 4-7 his first year. Of course he had to get rid of several of Les Miles recruits who, shall we say, were less than model citizens.

From then on:
7-6
7-6
9-4
9-4
11-2
12-1
And then this year as a true rebuilding year with a butt-load of injuries....probably will end up 8-5 (I think we can handle Purdue in the bowl game)

Recruitment will be easier....many High Schools are running the spread now and very truthfully the High School kids LOVE to play in a Spread. High amt of points. Run and gun type offense. One of the prime recruitment states in the Union is Texas. Try to find a Highschool team that runs the "I" down there.

Our true freshman QB (that got hurt early) is from Illinois where he was running the spread in Highschool !!
And they had won the state championship 2 years in a row.
 
#45
#45
The one thing Butch always does is run the ball well even in a spread style offense. Look at Isiah Pead or George Winn from this year at UC. He always has a good line and likes to establish the run. I think a lot of people will like that
 
#46
#46
In all for a change in offensive style. We have some speed that would work well with the spread. I'm excited to see it!
 
#47
#47
I hear Petrino runs the spread legs offense. Should've gotten him instead.
 
#48
#48
I hope not. Anyone watch the SEC CG? That's the kinda offense we need, like we used to have back in the day. That's what will win us ballgames, championships.
 
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tnmarktx said:
Power run team?? I don't think so. Do you remember the ridiculous Beast package. Hopefully that gets scrapped.
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?!? Let's see no Bray, Hunter, Patterson, Rivera, Rogers and only loose one off. lineman. That is pretty much our entire passing attack.

We return 4 OL with three studs coming up and all RBs. Safe assumption we run the ball a lot next year. Beast package was only stopped a couple of times last year. I am not saying we will not have a good passing attack but we will rely on the run until the passing game developes.
 
#50
#50
In the press conference, I believe CBJ said he doesn't like to call it the "spread" but yeah, he uses many elements of the spread, and mixes in the pro style offense.

I believe it is similar to the offense Chaney had already installed but catered more specifically to the strengths of the QB on the field. :)
 
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