Will McCollough play Saturday?

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vols40 said:
Say you (the resident constitutionalist) are right and he plays.... How does the university look if they played him and he is convicted? I am of the opinion that if he plays tomorrow that's a good sign these charges will not stand. Jmo.

I'll hang up and listen to your comment.
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Couldn't care less about a "conviction". If he ain't in jail currently, then he certainly is available to continue living. That includes playing football. If he were to somehow get sent to jail, then he obviously couldn't play while he's incarerated.

Beyond that, I don't care.
 
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ScornedPapaVol said:
Couldn't care less about a "conviction". If he ain't in jail currently, then he certainly is available to continue living. That includes playing football. If he were to somehow get sent to jail, then he obviously couldn't play while he's incarerated.

Beyond that, I don't care.
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Basically, what he said.

This is what "innocent until proven guilty" means.

And how would it look if the University let him play, then later he was convicted?

It would look like the University understands how our nation works.
 
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ScornedPapaVol said:
Couldn't care less about a "conviction". If he ain't in jail currently, then he certainly is available to continue living. That includes playing football. If he were to somehow get sent to jail, then he obviously couldn't play while he's incarerated.

Beyond that, I don't care.
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And you have the right to feel that way. I can assure you that if JJ doesn't play tomorrow the athletic department does not feel this is over and he will not play until that time comes.

And at no point in this process will the opinion of @ScornedPapaVol be considered.
 
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vols40 said:
And you have the right to feel that way. I can assure you that if JJ doesn't play tomorrow the athletic department does not feel this is over and he will not play until that time comes.

And at no point in this process will the opinion of @ScornedPapaVol be considered.
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It’ll be a good indication for sure. Probably they either have it worked out or they believe the account JM gave them and that it has merit and the lawyers are making the case to have this resolved in some way.

If he plays I’d strongly suspect it’s mostly been ironed out. If he doesn’t, then they are still working on it. The fact that they cleared him of university misconduct though does suggest they like their chances. Not many organizations in this day and age as concerned about optics as they tend to be will do that if they think it will end up making them look bad.

Even prosecutors don’t want to get blown away in court, and if they can be convinced that is likely they will drop the charges.
 
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SmokeMSJ said:
So, let me get this right?
I can drive to Athens in two weeks, get smashed at the bar…
Drive over to campus, and walk into Stetson Bennett’s apartment and say, “Oops, wrong apartment dude.. Don’t be a d*ck about it!”
He hits me in my mouth, and then he misses the Tennessee game?
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Please make it Brock Bowers’ apartment.

Also take the bus. Don’t drink and drive, ya knuckleheads.
 
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Enki_Amenra said:
I don't think so. He has a pending felony criminal case. No way they would play him with the possibility of a conviction still out there. Even if they know, without a shadow of doubt, he is innocent, the risk of being convicted is still too much to ignore. They may play him, but I highly doubt it.
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The fact that the school cleared him makes me think he won't be facing criminal charges. Schools usually go by the info their getting from the DA. They're probably dropping the charges & it just isn't announced yet by the Law.
 
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901 Orange said:
The fact that the school cleared him makes me think he won't be facing criminal charges. Schools usually go by the info their getting from the DA. They're probably dropping the charges & it just isn't announced yet by the Law.
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I wondered about timing too. Specifically, if it is a good idea for the university to prejudge or to imply that they have advance knowledge of the outcome of a legal proceeding. On the other hand, I think a favorable student conduct hearing just allows him to go to class. That may be too inconsequential to violate some legal protocol.
 
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joevols89 said:
Trey Wallace said he won’t play until the felony charge is dropped.
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Charges will probably be formally dropped on Monday, no way Student Conduct clears him unless they know the evidence is compelling enough that a dismissal is coming.
 
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Enki_Amenra said:
I don't think so. He has a pending felony criminal case. No way they would play him with the possibility of a conviction still out there. Even if they know, without a shadow of doubt, he is innocent, the risk of being convicted is still too much to ignore. They may play him, but I highly doubt it.
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That’s the problem these days..it’s not innocent to proven guilty, it’s guilty until proven innocent and that’s a fact.
Perception and views of the general public and individuals are changed by mere accusations and lives ruined. Your photo in a just busted magazine listing charges and ACCUSATIONS SHOULD BE ILLEGAL. They don’t have a magazine of the same individual stating the charges dropped or innocence being sold or promoted. So let’s face most people see someone and the charges in a magazine being sold at gas stations or on tv and its almost a certain they will be viewed as guilty.
 
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BigorangeBoy said:
Charges will probably be formally dropped on Monday, no way Student Conduct clears him unless they know the evidence is compelling enough that a dismissal is coming.
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I’m not sure how much evidence student conduct would actually get other than testimony but who knows. I figured the attorney released the statement to pressure them to drop the charges sooner rather than later.

Not a great look for the DA/KPD to keep the guy in limbo when the university is standing behind him.
 
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farmdogvol said:
Just read that McCollough has been cleared by the University. No suspension and no further penalties. What are the chances he starts and plays Saturday? The police investigation is still ongoing.
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No, he and Tillman are both out, just got a message in my ESPN app.
 
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joevols89 said:
I’m not sure how much evidence student conduct would actually get other than testimony but who knows. I figured the attorney released the statement to pressure them to drop the charges sooner rather than later.

Not a great look for the DA/KPD to keep the guy in limbo when the university is standing behind him.
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Over the years J Board has been much stricter than the letter of the law. Plenty of student ( not just student athletes) cases where there are no criminal charges that stick and Student Conduct upholds penalties. Then the student has to sometimes hire counsel to fight them.
 
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VAVol85 said:
I wondered about timing too. Specifically, if it is a good idea for the university to prejudge or to imply that they have advance knowledge of the outcome of a legal proceeding. On the other hand, I think a favorable student conduct hearing just allows him to go to class. That may be too inconsequential to violate some legal protocol.
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I'm not sure they would want him at school with those charges. They would have just suspended him.
 
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