Will the offense be better or worse?

[Other_Guy]

I think the state of the defense, being they aren't really losing valuable players (unless AJ goes of course) will progress some. I didn't say a lot, but some.

With that being said I really have no idea if (taking the orange shades off) the offense will be better the same or (not possible) worse as a whole.

Better QB play (SUUUUURELY), better WR play. Does the running take a drop off or stay about the same (no disrespect to Neal)? I think it will barely. Then there's the OL which we know will struggle. So the question is, does the 2 improved positions and the 2 regressed positions even out to about another same overall performance next year?

In my mind yes they will be better, because no matter how bad your team may be, a good QB or better QB play usually makes things better and provides HOPE (see Texas A&M). I see great success against lesser schools but an weaker OL doesn't bode well against good defenses.

Does anyone think it will be noticeable better? (Not in terms of running the system but the overall production)

 

[Other_Guy]

Also a side question, many don't consider SCjr a "signature win". Would an upset in Norman be it? Or would it have to be a Florida or Georgia team that could easily be another 8 win team next year?

 

[FiremedicVOL127]

I think we will be better overall as a unit. The experience in this system is worth more than people realize. Plus I do believe that CBJ is purging the roster to get more of "his type players" on the field to run his system. There is only so much that can be done when changing systems when majority of your offensive unit has been taught a different scheme completely for the previous 3-4 years they were on campus! Call me optimistic but I'm looking for a different offensive game from team #118 in the fall. But with that being said I'm not setting the bar to high for the mattress burners in the room if they don't!!

 

[omghulkhands]

Also a side question, many don't consider SCjr a "signature win". Would an upset in Norman be it? Or would it have to be a Florida or Georgia team that could easily be another 8 win team next year?

USCe was a signature win. Beating a ranked, Steve Spurrier coached team with the #1 overall draft pick playing his best game of the entire season is a signature win no matter what moron on this message board might say otherwise.

 

[99Vols]

I think the qb position will improve whether it's Worley or Peterman. Ol is untested but should be a better fit for the schemes and the defense can only get better with year 2 in the same system.

 

[FiremedicVOL127]

Also a side question, many don't consider SCjr a "signature win". Would an upset in Norman be it? Or would it have to be a Florida or Georgia team that could easily be another 8 win team next year?

It really don't matter how ya look at it but USCjr was a signature win!!! Plain and simple whether it was a fluke or not it was a BIG win over a top 20 team, something that hasn't been done around here since 09. So that is and will always be a big win for CBJ and staff in there 1st year at the helm. Now if we could go into Norman next year and pull off a W that would be huge as well! But the main thing is to not set the bar to high in the preseason so you don't feel deflated during the season when things don't go the way they've been predicted! Nobody knows how next year is going to turn out, if they did then why even play the games!

 

[thadolphinman]

I think the offense will be better a lot better, and I don't think there will be as huge a drop off on the offensive line as you might think. I think the new guys coming up are much better suited to run a zone blocking scheme than the guys that we had. They are smaller and quicker and will be able to get out and space better than this years group. With the development of better wide receiver numbers due to increased quarterback play I think you will see a much more efficient offense. I also think you will see the use of pass catching tight ends that will really open up the offense.

 

[omghulkhands]

This offense desperately needs a playmaker. Hopefully North makes the same kind of leap from year 1 to year 2 that Da'Rick and Justin did.

 

[VFLCodyGBO]

I think too much stock has been placed in our o line. They were decent but not as good as advertised. Pass protection may have been slightly above average but run block may have been below average on many downs. I don't think losing them will hurt too bad if we can replace them with raw talent waiting to be coached up.

 

[Other_Guy]

I think the offense will be better a lot better, and I don't think there will be as huge a drop off on the offensive line as you might think. I think the new guys coming up are much better suited to run a zone blocking scheme than the guys that we had. They are smaller and quicker and will be able to get out and space better than this years group. With the development of better wide receiver numbers due to increased quarterback play I think you will see a much more efficient offense. I also think you will see the use of pass catching tight ends that will really open up the offense.

I wish I could understand why so many people aren't really worried about the OL, some even saying "glad they're gone". Most rushing yardage since 2004 with zero passing game. The only thing that held this team from falling to pieces and being the worst UT team ever.

How many projected starters are "Jones guys"? I don't even know who is expected to start but I hope its not only freshmen and soph lol

 

[Other_Guy]

I think too much stock has been placed in our o line. They were decent but not as good as advertised. Pass protection may have been slightly above average but run block may have been below average on many downs. I don't think losing them will hurt too bad if we can replace them with raw talent waiting to be coached up.

When its 3rd and 2 and your QB can't complete a pass to Mother Earth, do you expect the defense to respect the pass? They ran for more yardage than they have in a long time, and this was WITHOUT the all star passing game from last year. What set of 5 is going to good enough that we won't miss them that badly?

 

[thadolphinman]

I wish I could understand why so many people aren't really worried about the OL, some even saying "glad they're gone". Most rushing yardage since 2004 with zero passing game. The only thing that held this team from falling to pieces and being the worst UT team ever.

How many projected starters are "Jones guys"? I don't even know who is expected to start but I hope its not only freshmen and soph lol

I'm not as concerned due to the fact that we wont have to throw freshman to the wolves like we did in 2010. Crowder and Jackson will be redshirt juniors, Weisman will be a sophomore, Blair an early enrollee JUCO, and Kerbyson and Sanders will be junior? and a redshirt freshman. The best part is that outside of Blair, these players will have had two years in the system as well as playing together on the second team.

They might not pass block as well, but I think they overall play will improve enough to offset that.

 

[Other_Guy]

I'm not as concerned due to the fact that we wont have to throw freshman to the wolves like we did in 2010. Crowder and Jackson will be redshirt juniors, Weisman will be a sophomore, Blair an early enrollee JUCO, and Kerbyson and Sanders will be junior? and a redshirt freshman. The best part is that outside of Blair, these players will have had two years in the system as well as playing together on the second team.

They might not pass block as well, but I think they overall play will improve enough to offset that.

Ok, so half of those guys aren't Jones guys and have very little playing time. I just don't see how the next 5 makes you feel better about losing the others. Not that I don't believe in them.

 

[thadolphinman]

Ok, so half of those guys aren't Jones guys and have very little playing time. I just don't see how the next 5 makes you feel better about losing the others. Not that I don't believe in them.

They only haven't played due to the guys in front of them. Crowder and Weisman have gotten great reviews from the coaches in practice reports. Blair looks like he is going to be a good tackle, Sanders was pretty highly recruited and Kerybson played a lot last year when they needed to bring in an extra lineman to block. He looked good against UGA when I watched the replay.

I feel better because they are older guys who will have gone through two years of strength and conditioning under this staff. They won't be true freshman like we had in 2010. They are also smaller guys that can move better and fit a zone blocking scheme better than the previous line.

 

[tennesseeduke]

I think the state of the defense, being they aren't really losing valuable players (unless AJ goes of course) will progress some. I didn't say a lot, but some.

With that being said I really have no idea if (taking the orange shades off) the offense will be better the same or (not possible) worse as a whole.

Better QB play (SUUUUURELY), better WR play. Does the running take a drop off or stay about the same (no disrespect to Neal)? I think it will barely. Then there's the OL which we know will struggle. So the question is, does the 2 improved positions and the 2 regressed positions even out to about another same overall performance next year?

In my mind yes they will be better, because no matter how bad your team may be, a good QB or better QB play usually makes things better and provides HOPE (see Texas A&M). I see great success against lesser schools but an weaker OL doesn't bode well against good defenses.

Does anyone think it will be noticeable better? (Not in terms of running the system but the overall production)

I agree with most of what you posted however I disagree with the O-Line. I believe that all the underclassman will surprise a lot of people have served in the system for 2 yrs will play dividends. I think we will be pleasantly surprised in the O-line next season.

TE and Special Teams are where I'm concerned. Everyone will be basically new.

:hi:

Tennesseeduke

 

[Air_Force_Vol27]

USCe was a signature win. Beating a ranked, Steve Spurrier coached team with the #1 overall draft pick playing his best game of the entire season is a signature win no matter what moron on this message board might say otherwise.

The #1 overall pick is not on the SC roster seeing as Houston will be taking a QB

 

[orangeluvr]

Surely the O will be improved. :redface:

 

[checkerboards09]

I don't think people understand how big of a difference Pearson and Blair will make on the O.

 

[RockVol]

Yes, the offense will be greatly improved! Hopefully either Ferguson or Dobbs can take a huge step foreword and live up to their potential, but if they can't Worley is still a serviceable QB. Our WR group will be greatly improved with the addition of 5*Josh Malone and #2 JUCO player in Von Pearson. The TE play will be better IMO although both Helm and Wolf will be true Freshmen. I think we will see a slight drop off in O-line play, but not too much. Our running game will also be improved as Lane will be a senior with another year in the system and we will have Hurd coming in to play a lot too! Bright days are ahead!!

 

[omghulkhands]

The #1 overall pick is not on the SC roster seeing as Houston will be taking a QB

That would be stupid. They will trade down a couple spots if they are going to take a QB.

 

[ERvolsfan]

Easy offense will be better. No way it could get worse only way to go is up. This will be 2nd year in system for current players then you add in the new improved talent and playmakers. Overall our offense will be much better especially with so many EEs. But I am a little worried about the Oline being replaced.

 

[VolFan4Life87]

I don't care how many studs we bring in on offense, it won't matter for squat if the QB play doesn't improve. They have GOT to get at least respectable play out of SOOOMEBODY.

 

[RockVol]

I don't care how many studs we bring in on offense, it won't matter for squat if the QB play doesn't improve. They have GOT to get at least respectable play out of SOOOMEBODY.

Like I said, if Ferguson or Hurd don't step up, Worley is still a serviceable QB. One thing that really hurt him this year was lack of talent at WR (other than North and Pig) and TE, and both of those positions will be greatly improved, which will make whoever the QB is look a heck of a lot better

 

[Darth_Shiveman]

Unless out offensive staff is worse than most think, I believe we'll see offensive improvement. Replacing out OL will likely slow down our offensive development to some degree, but we should see improvement from all the offensive personnel on their second year running the system and some of the guys we're adding (Malone, Hurd, Pearson) should have enough natural talent to make up for lack of experience.

 

[lilesrt]

I have a question.
How essential is it that Butch Jones takes this team to a bowl game next year? I'll hang up and listen.