Will the read option in the NFL:

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1. see a decrease over the next 5 years
2. see an increase over the next 5 years

I ask this because many colleges are looking to go to the read option as it is much more difficult to defend. It is great for winning football games but not great for getting guys in the NFL. If it decreases how does it affect the Braxton Millers, Johnny Manziels in the leage?

If it increases will the modern day Peyton Manning and Tom Brady fade in college? I would personally hate to see this.

This thread is entirely opinion based and set for debate. Let me here your thoughts.

Shano out!
 
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I think it will increase and different variations of it will be seen. We'll probably see it run by non-qb's too. There will be an increase in dual threat guys IF they can throw very well like RG3. No, the pro style QB is not going anywhere. Not everyone will run a read option with a QB. Too much risk in getting him hurt.
 
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I think it'll increase unless QB start droppin like flies. Looks like so far the read option QBa are staying healthy except for RGIII. Dudes gonna have to learn how to run outta bounds or slide or he's gonna be Vick 2.0.
 
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I think you might see some teams show it as a wrinkle, but I don't see it as a base offense for anybody long term. There have always been freaks they could stick at QB and run the option, but they either get hurt or evolve into pocket passers out of self preservation like McNabb, Young, Cunningham, Alex Smith etc.
 
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It's hard to say, many thought the Wildcat would become a lot bigger than it did. I think it depends on how the DC's game plans evolve to account for it.
 
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It'll become smaller because teams will figure out it fails when the a gaps are stuffed. If you stop the rb from getting beyond the los, it will not work.
 
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I think the game has already progressed more than we realize toward that model with the advent of running QBs. Yes, they need to go out of bounds or slide, but otherwise they're hard to defend (see SF49rs, Skins, etc.) An opposing argument could be made about Flacco, Manning and Brady, but IMHO that style of QB is going to be severely challenged. Offenses need an additional advantage when dealing with such good defenses.

In my opinion, the question is - what type of offense should UT maintain/adopt?

I posted this a while back about our identity. Do we want to be a stepping stone to the NFL or a really good, contending college football team (in which case a read-option improves your chances)?

For example, a recent NChamp QB from Alabama is 3rd string on the Jets. I think Alabama has opted for a college winning QB but not necessarily a NFL caliber QB.
 
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Seems like this comes up every few years, some talk that the classic drop back QB is going to fade away. It's not going to happen until they figure out a way to not get the running QB destroyed. Most "running" QBs don't last a long time.
 
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GAVol said:
I think you might see some teams show it as a wrinkle, but I don't see it as a base offense for anybody long term. There have always been freaks they could stick at QB and run the option, but they either get hurt or evolve into pocket passers out of self preservation like McNabb, Young, Cunningham, Alex Smith etc.
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This.

The "running" QBs that have lasted evolved into more of a pocket passer. Steve McNair is another example.
 
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This is why they want to bring in the Canadian field. So players like RG3 can just run around everyone.
 
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By five years I think you will see it decrease, just like the Wildcat, which was all the rage and now it has fallen off - today it's the read option, and in another three years it will be something different.

IMHO where the NFL goes will be driven by personnel available at the QB position. As time goes on you have a better chance of getting more that can run AND throw and be that dual threat that everyone wants right now. Longevity will be another consideration. Who do you think is happier now about their next ten years, the Colts or the Redskins? Personally I'd rather be the Colts, but I'm old.

Good question OP.
 
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It takes a rare athlete to make that system work at the NFL level. All the defensive guys are just so much faster and have higher football IQ's then their college counterparts. I see it becoming big in the NCAA but causing alot of players to go bust in the NFL (Tebow). The NFL likes Tyler Bray's and Peyton Manning's. They're safer bets and they last longer. Also, you can defend the read option it's just really difficult especially with the right athlete at QB. There is no defense for a perfect pass though. That's why Manning, Brady, etc. currently reign supreme in the NFL.
 
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Its like the wildcat it will last a year or to, then when to or three go down for the season, that will be the end to it.
 
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Some teams might start using it more, but I doubt it sticks around longterm. Tough to find QBs to effectively run that system in the NFL.
 
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VolMaster14 said:
I think it'll increase unless QB start droppin like flies. Looks like so far the read option QBa are staying healthy except for RGIII. Dudes gonna have to learn how to run outta bounds or slide or he's gonna be Vick 2.0.
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That's the key to this offense in the NFL. NFL QB's are paid millions and when they get hurt this offense will die out. Smart DC's will eventually just key on the QB and hit him everytime, wheather he has the ball or not. This is legal also. High priced QB's need to be on the field, not the bench. Just my opinion. :salute::salute:
 
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What does and doesn't make a play a read option play? If Peyton would run a standard pass play, see his wr's covered and decide to run would that be a read option play? He read the coverage and opted for his option to run the ball instead of passing based on the coverage. So why is it a read option play when RG3 does the exact same thing as peyton did in the example above?
The problem with the read option is defining it. The spread is easier to define than the read option. What we all saw Tebow run at Florida is what most would consider the read option but really he ran 1 play most of the time. In my opinion the read option is not an offense or package, its what any good qb should be doing on any play, reading the coverage and adjusting. Its a concept not a play and something that would've helped us and Bray alot last season. Instead of seeing his called play covered and giving up on the play and throwing the ball away he could've considered other options to make a play happen.
 
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Drop for two reasons:

1. You have to have the right qb to run it. That qb has to be big, fast, smart, and durable. There will never be quarterbacks like this in this quantity again. Let alone the quarterbacks are already showing durability issues.
2. Teams are already starting to figure it out. It wont take much longer.
 
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JFBanicki said:
What does and doesn't make a play a read option play? If Peyton would run a standard pass play, see his wr's covered and decide to run would that be a read option play? He read the coverage and opted for his option to run the ball instead of passing based on the coverage. So why is it a read option play when RG3 does the exact same thing as peyton did in the example above?
The problem with the read option is defining it. The spread is easier to define than the read option. What we all saw Tebow run at Florida is what most would consider the read option but really he ran 1 play most of the time. In my opinion the read option is not an offense or package, its what any good qb should be doing on any play, reading the coverage and adjusting. Its a concept not a play and something that would've helped us and Bray alot last season. Instead of seeing his called play covered and giving up on the play and throwing the ball away he could've considered other options to make a play happen.
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What you initially referred to was a choice route. What makes a play a read option play? The jargon attatched to it. Generally though there are differences. Most people call the zone read the read option. Often times you will see that the pistol taken in a short snap position is acutally blocked like a traditional veer play. The spacing on a 3 yard snap is off for a zone read but is fine for speed or veer.
 
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I personally think that it will fade out in 5 years. The wild-cat was also the unstoppable new thing just 5 years ago with Ronnie Brown and the Dolphins/McFadden-Arkansas
 
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JFBanicki said:
What does and doesn't make a play a read option play? If Peyton would run a standard pass play, see his wr's covered and decide to run would that be a read option play? He read the coverage and opted for his option to run the ball instead of passing based on the coverage. So why is it a read option play when RG3 does the exact same thing as peyton did in the example above?
The problem with the read option is defining it. The spread is easier to define than the read option. What we all saw Tebow run at Florida is what most would consider the read option but really he ran 1 play most of the time. In my opinion the read option is not an offense or package, its what any good qb should be doing on any play, reading the coverage and adjusting. Its a concept not a play and something that would've helped us and Bray alot last season. Instead of seeing his called play covered and giving up on the play and throwing the ball away he could've considered other options to make a play happen.
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In a read option you are reading 1 intentionally unblocked man on a designed running play.....Peyton would be lucky to get back to the LOS
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loosecannon said:
What you initially referred to was a choice route. What makes a play a read option play? The jargon attatched to it. Generally though there are differences. Most people call the zone read the read option. Often times you will see that the pistol taken in a short snap position is acutally blocked like a traditional veer play. The spacing on a 3 yard snap is off for a zone read but is fine for speed or veer.
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49ers run zone read out of pistol Qb just kind of sidesteps a few steps while making the read and allows RB time to read which hole to hit
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Yeah but he also takes the snap at a 4.5 to 5. Like I said, you can do it from shotgun depth but from short depth you can't.
 
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loosecannon said:
Yeah but he also takes the snap at a 4.5 to 5. Like I said, you can do it from shotgun depth but from short depth you can't.
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I've seen the do it from a normal pistol...the QB just walks the ball out like he would on a stretch but still makes the read....also makes the read man have to make a split second decision by stretching the play out before reading
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