Will the real Republican Party please stand up?

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Steele says Limbaugh just an entertainer and that his comments are sometimes ugly.

I remember the same thing happening a number of years back with regard to Newt, et.al, and some Republican fratricide. I think we may see that again, perhaps very nasty come the next primary season.

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So, my Republican friends, who better represents the Republican party? Steele or Limbaugh? Be honest.
 
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Steele says Limbaugh just an entertainer and that his comments are sometimes ugly.

I remember the same thing happening a number of years back with regard to Newt, et.al, and some Republican fratricide. I think we may see that again, perhaps very nasty come the next primary season.

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So, my Republican friends, who better represents the Republican party? Steele or Limbaugh? Be honest.

Neither, either are pieces of trash!

:hi:
 
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Steele represents the Republican party as a whole and why it's a disjointed mess at this point. Remember 40% of the earmarks in these spending bills came from them, so they are not any better than the rest of Washington.

Limbaugh represents (to me at least) the ideals I would love ANY party to at least strive for at this point: Power of the individual, strong defense, and very limited federal government control of any services. The Republican party has not given those ideals anything but lip service to get elected for the strong part of a decade at this point. To say they have been fiscally responsible is laughable.
 
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I think Rush says what the majority of Republicans are thinking, but as for being a viable candidate, nope. Rush is happy behind the mic pissing and moaning.
 
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Some parts of Limbaugh's message represent conservative principles but he's a tool. I haven't seen enough of Steele to compare on conservative principles.

That said, Steele better represents the Republican party since not all members are staunch conservatives.

I think Gingrich probably is the most visible embodiment non-conservatives don't like the man at all.
 
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of course included in this thread is lawgator's assumption that rush holds the strings in the republican party which is ridiculous.
 
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The RNC is a joke. If you think John McCain is your best candidate than you deserve to get destroyed by an idiot like Obama.

Limbaugh is hard to tell; he talks the conservative deal pretty well but he's also proven to be an RNC waterboy too, then after McCain gets drilled declares how he know McCain was crap all along.

I think it's obvious that if the RNC is trying to "beat" the DNC by being DNC Lite that they will never win another election. If they would do the smart thing and starting going the Libertarian direction, they would see some improvement. But this trying to get along with Democrats isn't going to work and is just plain stupid. Bush and McCain are perfect examples.
 
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The RNC is a joke. If you think John McCain is your best candidate than you deserve to get destroyed by an idiot like Obama.

Limbaugh is hard to tell; he talks the conservative deal pretty well but he's also proven to be an RNC waterboy too, then after McCain gets drilled declares how he know McCain was crap all along.

I think it's obvious that if the RNC is trying to "beat" the DNC by being DNC Lite that they will never win another election. If they would do the smart thing and starting going the Libertarian direction, they would see some improvement. But this trying to get along with Democrats isn't going to work and is just plain stupid. Bush and McCain are perfect examples.


Rush supported mccain because he knew hussin was a much worse president. it's obvious he's right. he also like palin, who is a true conservative. he knew that many conservatives weren't supporting him 100% and he was right on. i think you'll see some true conservatives running in 2012.
 
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Limbaugh is better to listen to with a Democratic President. With a Republican, he's forced to defend the almost indefensible like W.
 
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Limbaugh is better to listen to with a Democratic President. With a Republican, he's forced to defend the almost indefensible like W.

have you even listened to him. he did not defend bush on the budget, immigration, the drug program. there was a lot of stuff bush didn't defend him on. maybe you should actually listen to him instead of reading the talking points of some commie left website.
 
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of course included in this thread is lawgator's assumption that rush holds the strings in the republican party which is ridiculous.


I don't think its an assumption. First, if you read the article, Limbaugh is viewing himself as the annointed leader of hte party. Second, the fact that Steele has to downplay Limbaugh and reassert his control is fairly telling.
 
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I don't think its an assumption. First, if you read the article, Limbaugh is viewing himself as the annointed leader of hte party. Second, the fact that Steele has to downplay Limbaugh and reassert his control is fairly telling.

So if I view myself as the king of the Earth, then I am king of the Earth?

Steele must address the issue only because Democrats such as yourself have tried to label Limbaugh as the leader of the Republican Party.
 
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So if I view myself as the king of the Earth, then I am king of the Earth?

Steele must address the issue only because Democrats such as yourself have tried to label Limbaugh as the leader of the Republican Party.

ding, ding, ding
 
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I don't think its an assumption. First, if you read the article, Limbaugh is viewing himself as the annointed leader of hte party. Second, the fact that Steele has to downplay Limbaugh and reassert his control is fairly telling.
It's telling in that you clearly struggle with reality. Steele would be foolish not to at least address those who buy the Limbaugh talk. He did that, but it doesn't say he is now exerting his power over Limbaugh.
 
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So if I view myself as the king of the Earth, then I am king of the Earth?

Steele must address the issue only because Democrats such as yourself have tried to label Limbaugh as the leader of the Republican Party.


Limbaugh (and other commentaors, such as Hannity) are the ones touting Limbaugh as the voice of the party. I think he captures the thinking of a lot of Republicans, not all.

But that's sort of the point. The tension between the Limbaugh wing, so to speak, versus the more moderate Steele wing, again so to speak, is going up, up, up, as some in the Steele wing try to compromise with Obama and the Democrats.

Limbaugh has the luxury of no accountability. He can say what he wants, whether it be what he truly believes or what he thinks will entertain, and he is not expected to produce any results beyond ratings.

Steele has to arrive at a path that allows them to be the voise of loyal opposition, but also gain some tangible things in the form of legislation and spending.



It's telling in that you clearly struggle with reality. Steele would be foolish not to at least address those who buy the Limbaugh talk. He did that, but it doesn't say he is now exerting his power over Limbaugh.


See above. Steele has the much harder task. It will be interesting to see how far Limbaugh is willing to go in trying to keep his listenership focused on what he says he wants them focused upon.
 

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