Will this solve things?

[Vol8188]

Salary cap to level the playing field, Ohio State is spending upwards of $30 mil this year. I don’t know about you but I don’t want to see this turn into MLB. Collective bargaining to ensure players are treated well as employees with pay and benefits and to keep salaries under control.

This has always been closer to MLB than any other sport. So I truly don’t know what you’re talking about. Nor do I really care how much Ohio state spent.

 

[VOLINVONORE]

I posted this in the other thread, but enough’s enough.
This should be no different than having to play by the rules in a Las Vegas casino. If I want to voluntarily go in, then I play by the rules. If I want to voluntarily play college football, then I agree by the rules. Rules are, NIL is over if I agree to play there. I certainly don’t have to. Nothing to sue anyone over.
It’s time to kill this crap.
They wanna make NFL money? Fine. Wait until the NFL drafts your butt. Good luck.
You wanna play college football? Guess what Jimmy- you get a scholarship and and very small stipend that even the smallest D-2 schools can afford. And that’s it. Don’t like it? Don’t play.
All schools agree to this and it’s done.

Supreme Court says NO to that.

 

[joevols89]

Even when this is all regulated and handled by the schools/NCAA, you’re still going to have schools using NIL to get a leg up.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Collective bargaining….make the players employees, put a salary cap in place and be done with it.

And make them sign a contract with the universities. 3 year minimum.

 

[Hulavol]

Supreme Court says NO to that.

There’s got to be a simple way around this anti-trust crap. The schools aren’t “for profit entities.”
But if we have to pay them, then just do a salary cap of ten bucks. Let them unionize and walk out.
Then the ones who want to play will. The rest of the greedy bastards can go wait for the NFL. Good luck to ‘em.
I am sick of this crap, and I suspect everyone else in the CFB universe is too. Nico and his agent might be the “tipping point” - they have killed the golden goose.

 

[S.C. OrangeMan]

I posted this in the other thread, but enough’s enough.
This should be no different than having to play by the rules in a Las Vegas casino. If I want to voluntarily go in, then I play by the rules. If I want to voluntarily play college football, then I agree by the rules. Rules are, NIL is over if I agree to play there. I certainly don’t have to. Nothing to sue anyone over.
It’s time to kill this crap.
They wanna make NFL money? Fine. Wait until the NFL drafts your butt. Good luck.
You wanna play college football? Guess what Jimmy- you get a scholarship and and very small stipend that even the smallest D-2 schools can afford. And that’s it. Don’t like it? Don’t play.
All schools agree to this and it’s done.

Wrong. The courts disagree, and so does federal law.

 

[S.C. OrangeMan]

And make them sign a contract with the universities. 3 year minimum.

Hello unions, collective bargaining, employee status, and strikes if that happens.

 

[S.C. OrangeMan]

There’s got to be a simple way around this anti-trust crap. The schools aren’t “for profit entities.”
But if we have to pay them, then just do a salary cap of ten bucks. Let them unionize and walk out.
Then the ones who want to play will. The rest of the greedy bastards can go wait for the NFL. Good luck to ‘em.
I am sick of this crap, and I suspect everyone else in the CFB universe is too. Nico and his agent might be the “tipping point” - they have killed the golden goose.

The schools are still pulling the strings even though the collectives are acting as intermediaries. The real value of the players’ NIL is nothing close to the compensation. The NCAA isn’t going to win anything that goes to court.

There’s also the monopoly angle. But until the NCAA schools begin paying players directly as employees or ICs, they won’t be able to have an anti-trust waiver enacted like Congress has for other professional sports.

Eventually college sports will be recognized as what it’s become. The minor leagues for the professional teams.

College sports already are the minor leagues for every major sport. They have been so for decades.

 

[LWSVOL]

If I remember correctly, the "Collectives" are prohibited from connecting the contracting player to a specific school.

Tennessee state law, and many other states, prevent it... can't base it on a school or production by the player.

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

College sports already are the minor leagues for every major sport. They have been so for decades.

Not necessarily and not really for decades. The MLB’s minor leagues are mostly made up of teams connected to specific major league teams.

NIL took it much closer. The unrestricted transfers took it even further. Then there’s the players opting out of the post season bowl and playoffs. The facade of amateur athletes is about to be eliminated all together.

 

[S.C. OrangeMan]

Not necessarily and not really for decades. The MLB’s minor leagues are mostly made up of teams connected to specific major league teams.

NIL took it much closer. The unrestricted transfers took it even further. Then there’s the players opting out of the post season bowl and playoffs. The facade of amateur athletes is about to be eliminated all together.

Yet football (the topic under discussion) has always used CFB as their minor leagues.

The baseball minor leagues are for the guys that are't good enough or developed enough to go straight to the majors. Todd Helton says hello.

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

Yet football (the topic under discussion) has always used CFB as their minor leagues.

The baseball minor leagues are for the guys that are't good enough or developed enough to go straight to the majors. Todd Helton says hello.

UT’s parent club is the … ?

 

[S.C. OrangeMan]

UT’s parent club is the … ?

Don't need one to still function as a free minor league. Again, ask Todd's Helton.

 

[S.C. OrangeMan]

UT’s parent club is the … ?

You understand that there are independent minor league baseball clubs that don't have major league team affiliations.

So what's your point.

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

You understand that there are independent minor league baseball clubs that don't have major league team affiliations.

So what's your point.

What agreement exists between college football and the NFL?

 

[S.C. OrangeMan]

You are obsessed with a non sequitur. It's meaningless.

 

[ftsandersvol]

I can see it now, lesser-funded schools will automatically be placed in the CFP and will be given a 35 point lead to start the game.

It would be known as TBJ…Talent based justice.

 

[LAVol1]

You understand that there are independent minor league baseball clubs that don't have major league team affiliations.

So what's your point.

If I'm not mistaken, MLB has "franchised" areas so "independent" minor league teams can't compete. About the closest thing to "independent" minor leagues is the Cape Cod League, and that's top MLB college prospects. There are also leagues for college players in the summer months from the "Southern Pines League" to the "Alaska League". My son was offered a spot in the Alaska League and I encouraged him to go, but he opted for the Coastal Plains League and played for Wilmington. He said it was the most fun he had playing baseball.

Watch "The Battered Bastards of Baseball". Really interesting documentary about actor Kurt Russell's dad, the independent team he owned, and how MLB squashed them. Every baseball fan should watch it.

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

You are obsessed with a non sequitur. It's meaningless.

You’re obsessed with having the (first) snarky reply AND the last word and insult.

“College sports already are the minor leagues for every major sport. They have been so for decades.”