Will UT have any chance for fallout players from Ole Miss?

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drvenner said:
Honest question. What makes you think that this is not already true?
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I would imagine boosters at every P5 school are doing the $100 handshakes, but in most cases, with a few exceptions, i.e., the usual suspects) the coaches/schools aren't involved with the boosters and don't want to know those dirty little secrets.

But if the NCAA truly no long has the power, or will, to enforce its own rules, then maybe the gloves should come off of the schools who have at least tried to maintain a distance from their boosters. If the schools that were essentially 'handling' their boosters get caught and are given wrist slaps, then if the other schools want to have a shot at the elite players then perhaps they should start actively using their boosters as well.
 
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WallyBalls said:
Correct, the Tunsil stuff hasn't even been dealt with by the NCAA yet.

So does Forde have the stones to fire his shot on the morning of their Media Day?
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That would be perfect timing for sure. It seems pretty obvious from Freeze's body language that he knows he's in deep trouble.
 
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If the NCAA is going lenient on Penn St, why would they then make an example of the ole miss? It will all be swept under the rug...
 
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ecs4dvols said:
If the NCAA is going lenient on Penn St, why would they then make an example of the ole miss? It will all be swept under the rug...
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Because Ole Miss's violations actually fall under things the NCAA can police.

(And the fact that Ole Miss is no where near a cash cow, so they can get whacked, but that's another discussion entirely)
 
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Nocleats said:
Wrong. Neither UNC nor Miami have beat Alabama. The NCAA, the SEC, Alabama judges, and government officials get very piszed about that.. NZAA will have no choice
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Crazy Ivan said:
I would imagine boosters at every P5 school are doing the $100 handshakes, but in most cases, with a few exceptions, i.e., the usual suspects) the coaches/schools aren't involved with the boosters and don't want to know those dirty little secrets.

But if the NCAA truly no long has the power, or will, to enforce its own rules, then maybe the gloves should come off of the schools who have at least tried to maintain a distance from their boosters. If the schools that were essentially 'handling' their boosters get caught and are given wrist slaps, then if the other schools want to have a shot at the elite players then perhaps they should start actively using their boosters as well.
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I do agree about the coaches being blissfully ignorant, at least the Head Coaches. I think that there are staff members, maybe in the AD, who help facilitate these activities, at some schools. I think it is already the Wild Wild West to some degree and I don't believe it is going to change away from that anytime soon.
 
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fade route said:
It could be 400, if they're all secondary violations it won't matter.
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Eight of the original 31 violations were level 1 violations. Not sure how many of the Tunsil ones turn out to be those also. I thought Freeze nearly crying in his interview with CBS sports Monday was very telling. I think the NCAA comes down pretty hard on them. I could be wrong, just a gut feeling.
 
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Old joke. Alabama's recruiting violations were so serious that the NCAA took scholarships away from Ol Miss.
 
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There is more than smoke here, heard earlier that OM got another LOA and that the NCAA turned Down OM's self imposed penalties. Now hearing the LOA today involves boosters. Burn baby burn.

Edit: meant to add some forfeiture of games too. But really, unless that includes a championship forfeit, does anyone care about those except Bobby Bowden at FSU?
 
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secking said:
There is more than smoke here, heard earlier that OM got another LOA and that the NCAA turned Down OM's self imposed penalties. Now hearing the LOA today involves boosters. Burn baby burn.
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Agree that this is looking more serious for OM. This could absolutely torpedo their recruiting class.
 
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secking said:
There is more than smoke here, heard earlier that OM got another LOA and that the NCAA turned Down OM's self imposed penalties. Now hearing the LOA today involves boosters. Burn baby burn.

Edit: meant to add some forfeiture of games too. But really, unless that includes a championship forfeit, does anyone care about those except Bobby Bowden at FSU?
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I've been saying on the NCAA board for weeks things are about to get a lot worse for them and their self-imposed penalties were such a joke that it is going to really piss off the NCAA. I'll personally be shocked if Freeze survives this when all is said and done.
 
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Crazy Ivan said:
I don't know. I think the NCAA will fell the need to show that it still has some teeth, especially under the new tier system they implemented for violations. And they would prefer to do it to a school that is not one of the big cash cows, so Ole Miss would seem a likely target.
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Agreed. OM will get made an example of just like Ala did.Definately will be quite a few scholarship losses and potentially a one year bowl ban and a 3-4 year probation. Could be worse if they continue to find other things.
 
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Montrell Hardy said:
I've been hearing there is a lot more about to come out on them. The self imposed penalties were laughable for all the level 1 violations that were committed. I think the weak self imposed penalties is actually going to end up hurting them big-time in the long run with the NCAA. And none of this original stuff even has to do with Tunsil does it?
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Absolutely. These aren't just some secondary violations they are the kind that will have you getting penalties that USC and Ala got. There will never be a TV ban again but a bowl ban and a lot of scholarship losses are very likely. The more stuff that comes out the worse it will be for them.
 
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Montrell Hardy said:
I've been saying on the NCAA board for weeks things are about to get a lot worse for them and their self-imposed penalties were such a joke that it is going to really piss off the NCAA. I'll personally be shocked if Freeze survives this when all is said and done.
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I agree. Couple the weak self imposed penalties with the fact that the Tunsil situation had to be added AFTER the original investigation tells me that someone was not fully forthcoming or honest during the original investigation. We know how much the NCAA enjoys being lied to.

Also when I heard how hard Freeze's lawyers are working to have his upcoming testimony in the case between Tunsil and his stepfather sealed and kept from the public, it made me think he may be forced to say under oath things he didn't reveal as well.

I'm no lawyer or NCAA investigator. But it really looks bad to me. We shall see.
 
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If North Carolina and Miami can get away with way worse, I'm trying to figure out why Ole Miss would get hit hard.
 
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bignewt said:
If North Carolina and Miami can get away with way worse, I'm trying to figure out why Ole Miss would get hit hard.
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I don't get that either. But Ohio State and USC got hammered pretty hard. I'm really confused by the UNC and Miami situations.
 
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Well, they absolutely botched the Miami investigation, so that's why they skated on that.

Who knows with UNC. The cynical part of me says its because they are a money maker so they let them bury the women's basketball program rather than touch the golden goose of Men's basketball.
 
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