Will you take the CCP Virus vaccine? Why/why not

Will you take the CCP Virus vaccine? Why/why not

  • Yes

    Votes: 53 34.6%

  • No

    Votes: 80 52.3%

  • Undecided (include why)

    Votes: 20 13.1%
  • Total voters
    153
#502
#502
No, because there never has been a truly effective vaccine for an RNA virus. I've already had the CCP virus. It didn't effect me hardly any. The last flu I had was far worse.
 
#504
#504
tnmarktx said:
No, because there never has been a truly effective vaccine for an RNA virus.
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I've seen this comment several times, but it's certainly misinformation. We have effective vaccines a number of RNA viruses: measles, mumps, rubella, polio, Hep A, rotavirus, influenza, yellow fever...

What we do NOT have is long-term safety data/experience with the widespread use of vaccines that use mRNA technology. I think that is a primary hangup for a lot of people.

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kiddiedoc said:
I've seen this comment several times, but it's certainly misinformation. We have effective vaccines a number of RNA viruses: measles, mumps, rubella, polio, Hep A, rotavirus, influenza, yellow fever...

What we do NOT have is long-term safety data/experience with the widespread use of vaccines that use mRNA technology. I think that is a primary hangup for a lot of people.

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Seems like a strange hangup to have when an mRNA vaccine means that the virus will NOT get injected into your body. That logic would mean that every advance in vaccine technology takes 50+ years after discovery to implement as people wait for effects
 
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#507
literally amazes me the amount of people who don't get flu vaccines. This is exactly why we shouldn't have shutdown to begin with. Even with vaccine many won't get it .
 
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Electric Orange said:
Will you willingly take the CCP Virus (aka Coronavirus, Covid 19) vaccination?
Why or why not
Should it be mandatory
How much testing before mass deployment
Who decides who gets it
Etc.
Discuss CONSTRUCTIVELY

PLEASE KEEP PRESIDENTIAL AND OR PARTISAN POLITICS TO A MINIMUM. US AND THEM TRIBALISM ONLY HINDERS CONSTRUCTIVE DIALOG.
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#516
#516
Septic said:
I don't think it's "understandable at all why nobody would want it" at all. Would you be OK with people not vaccinating their kids and sending them to school with your unvaccinated kids? Can you elaborate on your statement on why its "understandable"? Are you a anti-vaxer that believes vaccines cause autism?

Polio, Rotavirus, HIB, Measles, Rubella, Mumps, Tetanus, Hepatitis, Whooping Cough, Diphtheria and Pertussis have all been eradicated or severely limited in infection rates since they were introduced.

It's bewildering that anyone would not want a vaccine that could possibly prevent them from death. Given the "why not try it" hullabaloo about the hydroxyquinoline here last week by the same crowd, I can't help but be puzzeled by the irony.

A vaccine from a deadly virus, yes please.
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If it has stem cells in it I will never take it.

I would choose to rather die than have been potentially helped by the cells of an aborted fetus.

There are some things I will bend on in life but this isn't one.

I have made it clear I feel abortion is genocide and if what I am being told is true so far that these vaccines have this in them then I am out.

Lock me up.

Execute me.

I will meet my maker with a clean conscious.
 
#517
#517
NEO said:
If it has stem cells in it I will never take it.

I would choose to rather die than have been potentially helped by the cells of an aborted fetus.

There are some things I will bend on in life but this isn't one.

I have made it clear I feel abortion is genocide and if what I am being told is true so far that these vaccines have this in them then I am out.

Lock me up.

Execute me.

I will meet my maker with a clean conscious.
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There is a lot of misinformation out there about the vaccines. The Moderna and Pfizer vaccines are not made from fetal tissue. The US conference of catholic bishops have released a statement that it is ethical to receive those vaccine. What is somewhat more controversial (to some) is the astrazeneca vaccine which does use cell lines to develop that did come from an aborted fetus in the early 1970s. These are cloned cells grown in a labs over the years that are derived from fetal cells. To my parents that is significant enough that they do not want the astrazeneca vaccine but it is remote enough to others that they do not see the vaccine as anti pro-life. It is a personal choice. Pfizer and moderna vaccine really is just a small mrna chain that is surrounded by a lipid or cholesterol wall.
 
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#519
It should be an individual choice. It has a 99% survival rate for gods sake. Of the 290k deaths over 15.5 million have survived.
 
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theFallGuy said:
literally amazes me the amount of people who don't get flu vaccines. This is exactly why we shouldn't have shutdown to begin with. Even with vaccine many won't get it .
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Flu vaccines are a money grab, they are barely half effective at best for 1-2 strains each flu season. It's not the same as the importance of a MMR vaccine
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
Flu vaccines are a money grab, they are barely half effective at best for 1-2 strains each flu season. It's not the same as the importance of a MMR vaccine
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I respect your opinion, but I don't personally think it's a money grab. The strain changes year to year just like you said, so it's hard to predict the effectiveness. I don't know if you've ever had the flu before, but I have and it's one of the most miserable experiences I've ever had. I get the vaccine every year because I'd rather have some protection from it than risk being contagious to someone else.
 
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theFallGuy said:
I respect your opinion, but I don't personally think it's a money grab. The strain changes year to year just like you said, so it's hard to predict the effectiveness. I don't know if you've ever had the flu before, but I have and it's one of the most miserable experiences I've ever had. I get the vaccine every year because I'd rather have some protection from it and risk being contagious to someone else.
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i know its a money grab because ive had this discussion with hospital administrators as well as pharmaceutical reps...they mass produce it knowing that hospitals are now required by ACA to have 90% of their team members get a flu shot each year or else they have to pay a $2 million tax to the government. Also local regional health centers and departments are required to buy a certain amount from the companies as well to distribute for tax purposes as well
 
#523
#523
Not for a mandate.

My wife works in the hospital and may be getting the Pfizer one in next week or so.

I’m so far down the list it will be next Dec before I’m even eligible for it. I’ll see how the state of the world is at that point and decide if I will get it then.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
i know its a money grab because ive had this discussion with hospital administrators as well as pharmaceutical reps...they mass produce it knowing that hospitals are now required by ACA to have 90% of their team members get a flu shot each year or else they have to pay a $2 million tax to the government. Also local regional health centers and departments are required to buy a certain amount from the companies as well to distribute for tax purposes as well
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Call it what you will but the only year I've gotten the flu since 1988 was the year I didn't get the vaccine. I'll stick with the dds.
 
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