Win or lose today…thank GOD no Butch Jones….

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OrangeTsar said:
The only evidence we have is his body of work after he left UT. Ask ASU fans how that’s going
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Can't imagine he will still be the ASU coach end of this season and it would take an AD who is mad at his school to hire him as a HC. As you state Tsar, his record speaks for itself. He better hope Saban still needs a car washer for next season.
 
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Vol8188 said:
It’s not speculation to say he brought in a ton of talent but didn’t win because he had horrible coordinators.

You’re ignorantly assuming he was overly involved in what they were doing.
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Horrible in-game decisions, horrible culture, horrible cliches, horrible attempts to sound intelligent, horrible tanking his last season here to get the buyout.
Horrible coordinators to some extent but Jancek for example was pretty good. The coordinators weren't the root problem.
Lyle is gone from us for good and that's a blessing.
 
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I'm a little surprised he's failed so miserably at Arkansas St. I thought he'd do just well enough to keep his job for a bit, but not well enough he's getting a bigger job. The kind of "doing well" that after 8 years of going 5-7 to 8-5, one 4-8 season gets you fired.
 
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EasternVol said:
Horrible in-game decisions, horrible culture, horrible cliches, horrible attempts to sound intelligent, horrible tanking his last season here to get the buyout.
Horrible coordinators to some extent but Jancek for example was pretty good. The coordinators weren't the root problem.
Lyle is gone from us for good and that's a blessing.
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You realize you don’t have to “tank” to get a buyout right? That seems baseless
 
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Vol8188 said:
It’s not speculation to say he brought in a ton of talent but didn’t win because he had horrible coordinators.

You’re ignorantly assuming he was overly involved in what they were doing.
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Again it’s not worth the effort. You think he’s a loser bc of his coordinators. He continues to lose wherever he goes. Past players have also commented extensively on his crap but by all means think what you like. If you want to die on that hill defending Butch Jones I’m not going to continue to argue with you.
 
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As annoying as Butch was he was still better than Pruitt. Pruitt was the worst coaching hire I’ve seen at Tennessee, even worse than Dooley.
 
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DaddyChad said:
Again it’s not worth the effort. You think he’s a loser bc of his coordinators. He continues to lose wherever he goes. Past players have also commented extensively on his crap but by all means think what you like. If you want to die on that hill defending Butch Jones I’m not going to continue to argue with you.
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Aren’t you the same guy who was upset because “Deion ran off all his QBs so his son could start!”?
 
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Vol8188 said:
Aren’t you the same guy who was upset because “Deion ran off all his QBs so his son could start!”?
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No

I could give a damn what Deion does one way or the other. Honestly I think he’s done a good job thus far. Not ready to crown him a great coach but they’re better than they were since he got there.
 
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DaddyChad said:
No

I could give a damn what Deion does one way or the other. Honestly I think he’s done a good job thus far. Not ready to crown him a great coach but they’re better than they were since he got
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You’re right. My bad. Confused you with believetheheup
 
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rocketskates said:
As annoying as Butch was he was still better than Pruitt. Pruitt was the worst coaching hire I’ve seen at Tennessee, even worse than Dooley.
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I’m especially salty at Butch for squandering generational legacy talent. That 2016 was loaded, should have played in the SECCG and Sugar Bowl. But he was such a dipshit that he lost the team and they quit playing for him. Heupel would have competed for a national title with that talent. Butch lost to Vandy.

Also, his S&C programs had some serious flaws, we were one of the most injured teams in the nation most years he was here.
 
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General Jack said:
I’m especially salty at Butch for squandering generational legacy talent. That 2016 was loaded, should have played in the SECCG and Sugar Bowl. But he was such a dipshit that he lost the team and they quit playing for him. Heupel would have competed for a national title with that talent. Butch lost to Vandy.

Also, his S&C programs had some serious flaws, we were one of the most injured teams in the nation most years he was here.
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Yes. That 2016 team was a national championship caliber team. I can’t even imagine what Huepel would’ve done with Dobbs, Hurd AND Kamara. Geez they might’ve set record numbers.
 
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EasternVol said:
He had to get fired to get the buyout. He made very sure he'd get fired.
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Lmao. So he was a terrible coach and he also had to try to get fired? What exactly do you base this “he tanked” conspiracy theory on?
 
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