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#6,980
#6,980
Orangeslice13 said:
It’s my official opinion that coach Pruitt doesn’t care how many games he wins this year. I think he’s treating the entire season as a scrimmage. He’s playing guys to see who is the future. I’ve seen this before on a much smaller scale. The second half of the season could look very different than the first half.
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Thought of you and this post while reading this comment. I finished reading the thread from this point and thought it was a decent read.

majic73 said:
I think you are right . I think it is more about the system and installation than the season. When you look at the vanilla running game a coach has to think if you cant execute a simple gap scheme , what would make him think your can run a counter trap ? If you can light a black cat , can you split the atom? Many of these guys , despite being juniors and seniors , have just not been taught fundamental football. I preach this over and over. Football technique , football strength, and football speed are cumulative. A coach doesn't just say some magic words or give you a special play or reveal a mystical secret . It is repetition after repetition ...rinse and repeat. It takes two years ideally. Many of our guys are as raw as they were out of high school. The results in the weight room at the same. Three months with the iron is not going to replicate 3 years with it . There is a lot of ground to make up . I see some improvements. More time is needed
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#6,982
#6,982
malinoisvol said:
Totally agree with all this^^^^.
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Remember in Top Gun when Tom Skerritt asked Michael Irionside (sp on both?) "Would you want him as your wingman?" And without hesitation he said "I just don't know".

I don't disagree with it, but that Florida game hampers my optimism. Can't help it. I've been on Pruitt's side, and I still am, but that was worth a strike and a half for me.

I don't care what " the plan" is, IMO the coach I hope he is and turns out to be, doesn't let that happen. And if he does? He better do something between now and the end of November to earse my memory. That doesn't mean he has to preform a miracle either. Just give me a real reason to believe.... To be convinced... he's got this.

If nothing else, just play some damn good bad football. And you know that makes sense.
 
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#6,983
Behr said:
Remember in Top Gun when Tom Skerritt asked Michael Irionside (sp on both?) "Would you want him as your wingman?" And without hesitation he said "I just don't know".

I don't disagree with it, but that Florida game hampers my optimism. Can't help it. I've been on Pruitt's side, and I still am, but that was worth a strike and a half for me.

I don't care what " the plan" is, IMO the coach I hope he is and turns out to be, doesn't let that happen. And if he does? He better do something between now and the end of November to earse my memory. That doesn't mean he has to preform a miracle either. Just give me a real reason to believe.... To be convinced... he's got this.

If nothing else, just play some damn good bad football. And you know that makes sense.
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I just wanna forget the frustrations of the past 10 years and ensure I, at least, don't project those frustrations onto CJP.
 
#6,984
#6,984
malinoisvol said:
I just wanna forget the frustrations of the past 10 years and ensure I, at least, don't project those frustrations onto CJP.
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I'm not. I don't remember an uglier game from beginning to end by the Vols. Ever. I only made one prediction ( for the season) on VN and that was the beginning of the year. I predicted a loss to Florida. I was prepared for a loss, not what I saw.
 
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Behr said:
I'm not. I don't remember an uglier game from beginning to end by the Vols. Ever. I only made one prediction ( for the season) on VN and that was the beginning of the year. I predicted a loss to Florida. I was prepared for a loss, not what I saw.
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No. I wasn't saying you are. :p

But, there are some in the ff that I believe are. Rather purposely or unwittingly, it's happening.
 
#6,987
#6,987
malinoisvol said:
No. I wasn't saying you are. :p

But, there are some in the ff that I believe are. Rather purposely or unwittingly, it's happening.
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I'm saying, I wasnt saying you were saying I was saying, I was just saying. Lulz.

I haven't changed my mind about Pruitt, I am disappointed so far, but I still give him the benefit of the doubt since A) I don't know what his plan actually is and B) He knows way more about football and coaching football than I do.

That said, I can see.
 
#6,990
#6,990
Coaches in my life time, excluding Bowden Wyatts last year and Jim McDonald in 63.

Doug Dickey (Tn HC 64-69, 46-15-4) previous job was an Arkansas asst coach.

Bill Battle (Tn HC 70-76, 59-22-2) previous job was a Tennessee asst coach under Dickey.

Johnny Majors (Tn HC 77-92, 116-62-8) previous job was HC at Pitt.

Phil Fulmer (Tn HC 93-08, 152-52) previous job was a Tennessee asst coach under Majors.

Lane Kiffin (Tn HC 09, 7-6) previous job was an NFL HC(?).

Derek Dooley (Tn HC 10-12, 15-21) previous job was HC at LaTech.

Butch Jones (Tn HC 13-17, 34-27) previous job was HC at Cinncy.

Jeremy Pruitt (Tn HC 18-present, 2-3) previous job was an Alabama asst coach.

What's the point? I'll put my money on the guys with no previous HC experience.

Watchu think?
 
#6,991
#6,991
malinoisvol said:
Coaches in my life time, excluding Bowden Wyatts last year and Jim McDonald in 63.

Doug Dickey (Tn HC 64-69, 46-15-4) previous job was an Arkansas asst coach.

Bill Battle (Tn HC 70-76, 59-22-2) previous job was a Tennessee asst coach under Dickey.

Johnny Majors (Tn HC 77-92, 116-62-8) previous job was HC at Pitt.

Phil Fulmer (Tn HC 93-08, 152-52) previous job was a Tennessee asst coach under Majors.

Lane Kiffin (Tn HC 09, 7-6) previous job was an NFL HC(?).

Derek Dooley (Tn HC 10-12, 15-21) previous job was HC at LaTech.

Butch Jones (Tn HC 13-17, 34-27) previous job was HC at Cinncy.

Jeremy Pruitt (Tn HC 18-present, 2-3) previous job was an Alabama asst coach.

What's the point? I'll put my money on the guys with no previous HC experience.

Watchu think?
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Sounds good to me
 
#6,995
#6,995
Truthfully, him not having HC experience was and has never been a big deal for me.
 
#6,996
#6,996
I went all the way back into Tennessee's coaching history and found 1 coach with prior HC experience and a winning % over (.700). John R. Bender .741%.

I love trivial crap. :)
 
#6,998
#6,998
MyBloodRunnethOrange said:
I love how some people are still arguing about hiring a proven winning. Have they not been paying attention to the last two searches?
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Exactly! Hiring a proven, successful headcoach is, I'll say it, impossible.

Yes, Jimbo is proven and was successful at FSU.
aTm's hiring him was the perfect storm of needing a new coach, having an ass load of money to spend, and finding a good coach coming off a down year at a top school with an upset fan base and administration. We shall see how this turns out in a few years.

JMHO
 
#6,999
#6,999
I can appreciate the concern. I also think a lot of the ones constantly bringing it up are really just saying as bad a shape we were in, why couldn't they have tried harder?

That was my biggest issue when we ended up with Pruitt. Like Gundy. I don't know that he would have been great here or not, its irrelevant to my point. My point is, if that's who they wanted, that's who they should have gotten. I may be way off or just wrong, but I feel like they just don't really care. They offered him what, 7 million? Did they "try" to hire him, or just call him and say " you wouldn't take 7 million to coach here, would you?" No? Okay, thanks".

Blah blah blah. I still think Pruitt can be really good, or better. But, whatda I know?!
 
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