Wisconsin hire

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DD4ME said:
Andersen beat his previous boss this year with less talent look for him to beat Urban by year 2 at OSU another of his previous bosses.
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Wish we'd given him a look, too. He did more for the program at Utah State in four years than just about anyone else in the past 80 years.
 
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Remember what happened the last time we hired a coach with a losing record ? This time we hired one with a record of success! :yes:
 
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douglas67 said:
I am not upset about Butch Jones being hired to be our coach at all!! But, Wisconsin got Gary Andersen from Utah State!! That guy is going to do well. Not sure if Tennessee looked at him or not, they should have.
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So you think the reaction would have been better had UT hired a coach with a 26-24 record in the WAC who was 19-29 prior to this season? Do you really think he's a better hire than a guy who has won 4 championships in six years?

He may be a homerun and Jones may be a dud.... but there is no question who has the best resume.
 
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I am happy with our hire. Just seems we limited ourselves in our search

Hart said he was going to hire a proven winner. He did that.
 
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This thread is as irrevelant as some of the pessimistic so-called Vol fans in the forum (and in this topic)
 
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Slydell said:
Wish we'd given him a look, too. He did more for the program at Utah State in four years than just about anyone else in the past 80 years.
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For me it's not just what he did at Utah state. Look at what he did under Urban and Wittingham. Add to that how far Wittingham fell this year without him. I did a lot of review of defensive minded coaches when we were hot on strong and if you look back through this guys resume you'll see he's got "it". I believe he will do very well at Wisconsin. He's nothing like Dooley in any way shape or form.


I'll say again I like the Butch hire and each day he reinforces that I'm simply saying I think Wisconsin may have gotten the deal of the year on a diamond in the rough. I wouldn't be shocked to see Andersen have a Sumlin type run next year.
 
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Andersen built a program from nothing, unlike Jones, who has benefitted twice from Brian Kelly building the program before he got there. Jones then did worse than Kelly in both instances. Other than the fact that he's the coach at UT and we have little recourse otherwise, I don't know why people are so "sold" on Jones as this great coach. Spare me the misleading idea of "4 conference titles" when he was, basically, tied with almost half the conference for the last two in a weak Big East.

I'm not interested in talking myself into thinking Jones will be this great coach, as many have done here, I want to see something. And, based on what I've seen, I'm, unfortunately, seeing mediocrity. If Hart was going to spit in the face of boosters and fans, going on his own to pick a coach, then Andersen definitely was one to look at, especially for our needs as a program.
 
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Unimane said:
Andersen built a program from nothing, unlike Jones, who has benefitted twice from Brian Kelly building the program before he got there. Jones then did worse than Kelly in both instances. Other than the fact that he's the coach at UT and we have little recourse otherwise, I don't know why people are so "sold" on Jones as this great coach. Spare me the misleading idea of "4 conference titles" when he was, basically, tied with almost half the conference for the last two in a weak Big East.

I'm not interested in talking myself into thinking Jones will be this great coach, as many have done here, I want to see something. And, based on what I've seen, I'm, unfortunately, seeing mediocrity. If Hart was going to spit in the face of boosters and fans, going on his own to pick a coach, then Andersen definitely was one to look at, especially for our needs as a program.
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He may be many of the things you mentioned but mediocre is definitely not one of them. He's as solid a coach as you could hire outside of a handful of unrealistic pipe dreams.
 
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DD4ME said:
He may be many of the things you mentioned but mediocre is definitely not one of them. He's as solid a coach as you could hire outside of a handful of unrealistic pipe dreams.
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Fine, I'll go "above average". Put it this way, had any of our rivals hired him, would you have been in the least bit concerned? I think he'll do OK, a 7-9 win a year guy, but his ceiling is lower than we should expect as a top ten program (where we should be with the right leadership). And, the "pipe dreams" were more realistic than most realize had we not had Hart and Cheek running the show.
 
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CountVolcula said:
If you are happy with our hire, why bring it up?
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self-affirmation, cuz.


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Unimane said:
Andersen built a program from nothing, unlike Jones, who has benefitted twice from Brian Kelly building the program before he got there. Jones then did worse than Kelly in both instances. Other than the fact that he's the coach at UT and we have little recourse otherwise, I don't know why people are so "sold" on Jones as this great coach. Spare me the misleading idea of "4 conference titles" when he was, basically, tied with almost half the conference for the last two in a weak Big East.

I'm not interested in talking myself into thinking Jones will be this great coach, as many have done here, I want to see something. And, based on what I've seen, I'm, unfortunately, seeing mediocrity. If Hart was going to spit in the face of boosters and fans, going on his own to pick a coach, then Andersen definitely was one to look at, especially for our needs as a program.
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I respect your opinion and have to say you might be right about Jones. I like him, but I can see and appreciate the other side.

However, I have to correct you regarding his record at Central Michigan. Jones did much better than Kelly at Central Michigan. Kelly was 19-16 in 3 years. Jones was 27-13 in the same amount of time. Of course, Kelly built the program up for Jones, but you can't say that Jones did worse than Kelly based on his record there.
 
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Unimane said:
Fine, I'll go "above average". Put it this way, had any of our rivals hired him, would you have been in the least bit concerned? I think he'll do OK, a 7-9 win a year guy, but his ceiling is lower than we should expect as a top ten program (where we should be with the right leadership). And, the "pipe dreams" were more realistic than most realize had we not had Hart and Cheek running the show.
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according to the "sources" who said it was a done deal
 
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Unimane said:
Andersen built a program from nothing, unlike Jones, who has benefitted twice from Brian Kelly building the program before he got there. Jones then did worse than Kelly in both instances. Other than the fact that he's the coach at UT and we have little recourse otherwise, I don't know why people are so "sold" on Jones as this great coach. Spare me the misleading idea of "4 conference titles" when he was, basically, tied with almost half the conference for the last two in a weak Big East.

I'm not interested in talking myself into thinking Jones will be this great coach, as many have done here, I want to see something. And, based on what I've seen, I'm, unfortunately, seeing mediocrity. If Hart was going to spit in the face of boosters and fans, going on his own to pick a coach, then Andersen definitely was one to look at, especially for our needs as a program.
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Oregonvol already mentioned CBJs record at CMU but you may want to look at what Mark Dantonio did at Cincinatti before Kelly. While youre checking that out take a look at who left behind a better roster for their successor, Dantonio or Kelly? Cincinatti has had some good coaches over the past 10 years. I wish we had their AD.

Also, I get the dismissal of CBJ's Big East titles due tp ties but you might want to go back and look at some of TN's SEC titles prior to 1997.

If CBJ hadn't landed this job this year he would have gotten another big job next year. The guy is on the up and up.
 
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golfballs said:
according to the "sources" who said it was a done deal
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Don't question the OGs sources, golfballs. This cover up of how close the Gruden hire was makes the Kennedy assasinatio, Watergate, Lewinsky, and Bengahzi combined look like amateur hour at a Holiday Inn.
 
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I'm good with CBJ being hired. However, there is the little part in the back of my mind saying "but Dooley's only "good" win was against his Cincinnati team". I hope he does well.

I also have to wonder if the whole academic and financial challenges didn't play a huge part in us not throwing a ton of money at getting Chris Peterson or Gary Patterson.
 
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Volzilla said:
This thread is as irrevelant as some of the pessimistic so-called Vol fans in the forum (and in this topic)
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What ever Dude!! Look, we didn't have a wide search when we hired Kiffen! We didn't have wide search when we hired Dooley! I think our search widened a bit this time, but not much. I said I was happy with our hire, I questioned whether or not Andersen was interviewed??? Nothing more, nothing less.....

Proud Vol fan since 1967, went to my first game in 71.....take your pessimistic view and go puke turds.
 
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