With a new 'big three' leading the way, UConn is once again the team to beat

[reno tony]

Actually UCONN runs a read and react motion offense. Usually a 1 in 4 out.

I watched an open practice a few years ago where he went over 1 single "set" for about 20-25 minutes, working on all the different reads/options/wrinkles they could do off that 1 set. Pretty impressive.

There are some videos of practices and seminars he gives on YOUTUBE. Very interesting stuff for people like me that don't know all the details of stuff like that.

 

[Voluble2]

No, for many posters it is about copying their style.

This is a key aspect of every sport. I am just flat out shocked that no one ever really tries it in women's basketball.

When the spread offense came along in football it didn't take long before loads of teams were running it and the coaches who understood it and taught it were in high demand. This is because coaches in that sport are paid to win, not make excuses.

Not wanting to imitate that which is successful because it would somehow be admitting another team is better is a purely emotional response and has no place in the game. That is how losers think. And it is a key part of why Geno has been so successful. He is the only one really trying to win. Everyone else is just doing what they have always done while hoping to get different results.

 

[UCMiami]

This is a key aspect of every sport. I am just flat out shocked that no one ever really tries it in women's basketball.

When the spread offense came along in football it didn't take long before loads of teams were running it and the coaches who understood it and taught it were in high demand. This is because coaches in that sport are paid to win, not make excuses.

Not wanting to imitate that which is successful because it would somehow be admitting another team is better is a purely emotional response and has no place in the game. That is how losers think. And it is a key part of why Geno has been so successful. He is the only one really trying to win. Everyone else is just doing what they have always done while hoping to get different results.

I think that is too blanket an indictment. I think there are a number of young exciting coaches out there that are real students of the game, but it is a process of getting the right job where you can start recruiting decent talent and building a reputation. And I think Tara at Stanford is one of the best basketball minds in the business, but is hampered a little by the strict admissions policies at the school. Muffet is good as well, though last nights effort/team was a little shocking to me.

But I agree there is a lot of deadwood in the women's game as well. And some folks that are too stubborn to adapt their system to the players on their team.

 

[Nute Gunray]

UConn is good.. UT could be good also.

I'm just going to split hairs with you. It is not intended as personal. It's about the definition of "good"

UConn has won 83 or 84 in a row. That's the 3rd best win streak in a row 2nd behind John Wooden's 88. Who's first in that record they are chasing? They are chasing themselves. The record is 90 owned by UConn

They have won the last 4 NC's in a row threatening after last nite to make it 5.

They've won something like 123 out of the last 124 games

Another poster said thev'e lost only 14 games over the last 10 years. I would not doubt that although I didn't check it.

They are 11-0 in NC games.

This is not good. There is no superlative for just &*%%&#$& great/outstanding/unbelievable that accomplishment really is.

Like him or hate him but this guy is a freaking basketball genius and a genius at motivating his players. And is he a recruiter? .... it all starts with the persona of the young women he recruits. It's people first with basketball skills coming along for the ride because he will hone most he recruits into highly polished basketball art. Those that can't take that grind transfer out.

No one has to like this man. But he deserves nothing but praise. To call him good is a disservice. He is a one of a kind thus far. Pat Summitt was a GREAT coach no question. I admire her greatly. UConn 4 LV 0 in NC games. Now that is against a legend in Pat

This year's UCONN's team is good, very good. I was not commenting on past UCONN teams.

 

[Nute Gunray]

I mean, their style gets them high quality results. Is it that bad to want the same from Tennessee?

I'm sure that Geno looked at what Pat was doing to become successful and carried over her commitment to defense and rebounding to his team, but with the added dimension of equal emphasis on offensive execution. There's nothing wrong with wanting to take the same thing that's made them successful and incorporate it into the Tennessee playbook.

I like your post. Even Geno admitted he learned some things from Pat(not many, but some).

 

[tonyc]

I was told this along time ago and I still live by it.

To be great at anything and to make it big, you have to work in all the time. You have to give up the way it is and make a total commitment. You have to work hard work and you can never give up.

You must pay a huge price....in advance....and there are no guarantees.

The LVs have always had the talent but they're missing the teaching and discipline. Discipline is huge.

 

[gule]

So, how bout this Trump stock market? < 300 pts to 20,000.

ps, geno stinks!

 

[gule]

What does Geno give out as Xmas presents? Handbags of course.

 

[UTLadyvolsfan]

It's not a matter of copying UConn's style, but copying their work ethic and drive to be the best. Pat was the same way in that regard, but it seems to have left the program when she did.

This is where I think some LV fans don't get it. Pat was a legend. But she did NOT teach motion offense. She taught the same kind of offense that Holly teaches.

The difference is that in Pat's era, she had better athletes than everyone else and was able to crash the offensive boards for putback opportunities for the post players. I also think Pat was light years ahead of Holly in terms of getting the most out of her teams, but Pat was the one who famously went to Harry Peretta to meet with him to learn about motion offense. She was willing to admit when she did not know something, and work to learn, figure it out, or improve it.

This does not seem to be something Holly is capable of. Pat was also a disciplined, no-nonsense coach, among other great things, and would never allow the disarray and personality challenges that seem to be plaguing this team's effort and demeanor. Again, not something Holly seems capable of.

 

[PointGuard]

This is where I think some LV fans don't get it. Pat was a legend. But she did NOT teach motion offense. She taught the same kind of offense that Holly teaches.

The difference is that in Pat's era, she had better athletes than everyone else and was able to crash the offensive boards for putback opportunities for the post players. I also think Pat was light years ahead of Holly in terms of getting the most out of her teams, but Pat was the one who famously went to Harry Peretta to meet with him to learn about motion offense. She was willing to admit when she did not know something, and work to learn, figure it out, or improve it.

This does not seem to be something Holly is capable of. Pat was also a disciplined, no-nonsense coach, among other great things, and would never allow the disarray and personality challenges that seem to be plaguing this team's effort and demeanor. Again, not something Holly seems capable of.

+1

And, to her credit, Pat knew she needed help on offense.... it was passing her by. She brought in Harry Parretta for that reason. Who knows why she picked him of all coaches. He runs the shot clock down and heaves up threes

But Holly must have been riding her motorcycle coast-to-coast that summer and failed to learn the lesson from the great Pat that it's OK to seek help from others when you need it. One of the reasons Geno got as good as he is is that he studies/learns from everybody

 

[reno tony]

Guys....ya'll do realize that Turner's left hand is on the floor in this pic.

You do realize she was a high jumper in high school and finished 5th in Olympic trials as a sophomore with a jump over 6 feet.